FOX Phoenix vs. MCU Celestials

FOX Phoenix

VS.

MCU Celestials

Rules

• Phoenix is composite from both timelines.
• Celestials have basic knowledge; Phoenix has no knowledge.
• Everyone is in character but serious and determined to win.
• Celestials have Ego's psychic defences.
• Phoenix must kill her opponent in order to win; the Celestials can kill, KO, or incap Phoenix in order to win. No BFR.
• Battle takes place on the surface of Ego's planet. Starting distance of 100 feet.

Rounds

Round 1: Celestial Star-Lord

Round 2: Ego

Round 3: Eson the Searcher w/ Power Stone

Bonus Round: Composite Celestial (Ego, Star-Lord, and Eson the Searcher w/ Power Stone). All Power Stone feats allowed. The Celestial is in a humanoid form.

they can't put her down where as she can consume them. clears

Stop at Eson.

@whatareyoudo said:

Stop at Eson.

That isn't necessarily an instant win. He has one feat. Although it is planet-busting, it isn't instant and he has no durability feats.

Phoenix for now. Might change after Eternals.

Ego's psychic defense is garbage due to the psychic that can put him to sleep.

As for right now, Phoenix should win. She is a planet-buster, so beating Ego (a planet) and Quill (comparable to Ego) shouldn't be too hard. She might have a hard time against Esson, who is a fellow planet-buster, but he used the Power Stone, so I'll give this one to Jean. My mind might change after Eternals, though

Bump

If Eson scales anywhere to other Celestials, who can use their cosmic energy to create suns, supernovas and black holes, Jean stops at 3.

In terms of durability, a newborn Tiamut would have no-sold the Earth's destruction upon birth, Eson no-sell the Power Stone wave that went on to destroy a planet, and Hargen, Nezzar, and Jemiah were unaffected by the gravity, heat, light and radiation of suns, supernovas, and galaxies. Arishem even no-sold a black hole.

In terms of speed, their Massively FTL+ as they can cover stellar distances with just their sheer size. Celestials showed they could turn into cosmic energy and travel across galaxies in mere seconds.

In conclusion, juvenile Celestials are Planetary, adult Celestials are star-galaxy level, and an Elder Celestial like Arishem is Universal via creating and no-selling the Big Bang. Eson should fall into the middle category while taking scaling into account.

Pheonix stomps

Stops at 3

Hilarious how Tighten is following me into damn near every forum just to spew his copium.

Round 3

Jean beats fake weak Celestials like Ego and Peter, but she isn't beating any of the real Celestials. Her best feat is having potential to bust a planet, whereas Celestials do that when they born and Eson is amped with a power stone. Telepathy probably wouldn't work, since Planetary Druig implied he can't even dream of affecting Tiamut without connecting himself to Uni-mind. Uni-Mind amps that person like 1000x (Sersi for example can increase her Transmutation range to kilometers, so by simple logic Druig became better than Planetary )

Their original plan was for Druig to be the conduit of the Uni-Mind and use his telepathy on Tiamut, which implies it would have worked. We don't know to what extent his telepathy would have been amped, and saying 1000x is the amp is an estimate.

Phoenix Jean's telepathy scales above planetary, as she was easily able to counter Xavier with Cerebro.

@geekryan: If Druig was stated to have planetary TP pre uni-mind, imagine the amp he would receive. Also, Sersi was only able to turn Tiamut to stone because HE joined the Uni-Mind. Sersi herself stated that Tiamut agreed with the Eternals' decision and provided his own energy to help kill himself. It's very plausible that even Druig wouldn't have succeeded without the Celestials' aid.

A statement that isn't backed up by any feats.

@geekryan: When Druig stated he could have taken control of all of mankind, Sersi didn't bother to debunk it. This is someone who knows Druig on a personal level and has fought alongside him for several millennia.

And yet it is still a statement that isn't even remotely backed up by any feats. We haven't seen him control more than dozens of people at once.

@geekryan: Druig controlled thousands of soldiers on two opposing sides of a war in a flashback.

@geekryan: except we literally see him control both armies and forced them to stop, tried to take over the mind of everyone on earth and Ajax pleaded he shouldn’t clearly implying he can. How about we stop the nonsense lowballing huh?

In this clip, Druig states he could end all conflict in a heart beat. None of the Eternals debunked his claim. He then controls two armies simultaneously.