Fight stipulations
1. To the death
2. No holding back
3. Fighting to the best of their abilities
4. They have no time to prepare
5. They have no prior knowledge
Fight stipulations
1. To the death
2. No holding back
3. Fighting to the best of their abilities
4. They have no time to prepare
5. They have no prior knowledge
Jean disintegrates Kara
U know she has experienced same lvl matter manipulation/desintegration ?
Jean is on another level here
No, they are well matched on the same lvl, but yeah Jean wins via broken haxes
Jean disintegrates Kara
U know she has experienced same lvl matter manipulation/desintegration ?
Feat?
Jean disintegrates Kara
U know she has experienced same lvl matter manipulation/desintegration ?
Feat?
Same nanotech turned human into nothing/atoms
Takes normally biomax tech + combining with magnetosm she was immobilised and it was nothing to her. + u can see how it shifts molecular/atomic structure in Jack.
Biomax version 38 turned him into this by injecting several nanorobots
Also same tech fixed entire wound in seconds without any tracks and same tech filtrated the entire atmosphere from kryptonite
If Kara blitzes before Jean which she could then Jean gets one shot...She's glass cannon once the host is out fights over here.. If it's full on Phoenix she can win
@destinyman75: these are current versions per rules, so it's Jean with full force and Kara gets stomped.
@lordofallhumans: She doesn't stomp. Lool do u even watch Supergirl ? Still jean wins but not a stomp
@davidharewood14: yeah I watch it and she gets her ass kicked more consistently by beings below Jean by a large margin.
Jean disintegrates Kara
U know she has experienced same lvl matter manipulation/desintegration ?
Feat?
Same nanotech turned human into nothing/atoms
Takes normally biomax tech + combining with magnetosm she was immobilised and it was nothing to her. + u can see how it shifts molecular/atomic structure in Jack.
Biomax version 38 turned him into this by injecting several nanorobots
Also same tech fixed entire wound in seconds without any tracks and same tech filtrated the entire atmosphere from kryptonite
Impressive, but this is nowhere near Jean's level of power and control over matter manipulation.
@lordofallhumans: Sorry but Reign or Red Daughter by feats are on pair with Jean
@geekryan: So how great is her matter manipulation ?
@davidharewood14: by what feats? Magically amped Reigns, that was trying to destroy the planet that got stopped by a shapeshifter fusing with a spot on Earth? Isn't shapeshifting just molecular manipulation on the self. So I guess less limited molecular manipulation could stop Reign too, go figure.
@davidharewood14: by what feats? Magically amped Reigns, that was trying to destroy the planet that got stopped by a shapeshifter fusing with a spot on Earth? Isn't shapeshifting just molecular manipulation on the self. So I guess less limited molecular manipulation could stop Reign too, go figure.
Became stopped but couldn't even harm her. To me H'ronmeer magic is above Phoenix Force
@davidharewood14: He stopped it though, right? He wasn't trying to harm her he was a pacifist. More powerful how? It did nothing but create 3 failures.
Jean fodderizes CW Supergirl, Superman, Red Daughter and Reign at the same time.
Poor CW Lmao!
@lordofallhumans: to me moleculary control entire planet every molexule at once is far above destroy the planet
@oraculi: @from_beyond: still jean wins but she got confrontent with same lvl matter manipulating nanotach
If SG is bloodlusted then Jean is not winning. SG would statue and pummel her till she dies or freeze in an ice prison of absolute zero. In character Jean has a 50/50 tho.
SG can't statue someone who reacted to quicksilver. In the fourth season, she was struggling to dodge hits from opponents with human level speed. She is extremely inconsistent.
@from_beyond: SG has reacted and kept up with the Flash, who's leagues above Quicksilver in speed. She never had trouble tagging her opponents in S4 and has on numerous occasion speed blitz them. Using PIS low showing like that yet acting like Jean didn't get backstabbed by a fodder in the movie lol. C'mon we are above using low showings, no?
Jean gets statued by a bloodlusted SG. She has no way of beating SG going for the kill and not holding back.
Also extremely "inconsistent" girl was fighting a person on her level and taking punches that warped reality in S4 lol. She's not as inconsistent as you guys try to lowball her to be.
If SG is bloodlusted then Jean is not winning. SG would statue and pummel her till she dies or freeze in an ice prison of absolute zero. In character Jean has a 50/50 tho.
SG can't statue someone who reacted to quicksilver. In the fourth season, she was struggling to dodge hits from opponents with human level speed. She is extremely inconsistent.
Aren't u guy who claims MCU Hela has even any chance to harm or even beat CW Supergirl or Reign or Red Daughter ? lool. Inconsistent ? She is not jobber anymore
Jean had some pretty high level regeneration, and at the end of seemed to utilize a non corporal body.
You can even see a firebird fly across the sky at the end.
Then at the end of another movie, days of future past, when Logan returns to the future, Jean is just kicking it with the x-men.
This makes me think she can switch back and forth from her non corporal form.
OT; Jean stomps.
Jean had some pretty high level regeneration, and at the end of seemed to utilize a non corporal body.
You can even see a firebird fly across the sky at the end.
Then at the end of another movie, days of future past, when Logan returns to the future, Jean is just kicking it with the x-men.
This makes me think she can switch back and forth from her non corporal form.
OT; Jean stomps.
Damn so Jean stomps. Kara needs J'onn to at least inhinbit her. J'onn's telepathy can send Nia's astral plane to fortress of solitude so he should be able to help. But yeah then Jean stomps. jean can literally obliterate entire MCU now including Dormammu
@eobard21: @germangod1: Phoenix stomp.
@azazelthunder07: If this is pure merged version i agree.
if this is only avatar then Kara oneshots.
Btw let's do CaV Fox Norrin Radd vs Arrowverse Earth-38 Kara Zor-El.
C'moon
Jean is non-corporal, she doesn't need a body.
In fact she exploded her own body, then became a firebird; because that is what she is an giant energy fire bird.
There is nothing to punch.
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These battles need to be restricted to 'the avatar of the Phoenix' that would be Jeans body, if you obliterate the body you win, Supergirl can at least fight against this.
Non restricted Phoenix Jean can compete with full IG Thanos, the DCU De-creator, MCU Dormammu, and the like, but shit stomps most non abstract CMB characters.
Jean is non-corporal, she doesn't need a body.
In fact she exploded her own body, then became a firebird; because that is what she is an giant energy fire bird.
There is nothing to punch.
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These battles need to be restricted to 'the avatar of the Phoenix' that would be Jeans body, if you obliterate the body you win, Supergirl can at least fight against this.
Non restricted Phoenix Jean can compete with full IG Thanos, the DCU De-creator, MCU Dormammu, and the like, but shit stomps most non abstract CMB characters.
Do u think can current Barry harm Phoenix via abstract conciousness carrying feat + Speed forc protection from black hole haxes ?
Jean is non-corporal, she doesn't need a body.
In fact she exploded her own body, then became a firebird; because that is what she is an giant energy fire bird.
There is nothing to punch.
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These battles need to be restricted to 'the avatar of the Phoenix' that would be Jeans body, if you obliterate the body you win, Supergirl can at least fight against this.
Non restricted Phoenix Jean can compete with full IG Thanos, the DCU De-creator, MCU Dormammu, and the like, but shit stomps most non abstract CMB characters.
Do u think can current Barry harm Phoenix via abstract conciousness carrying feat + Speed forc protection from black hole haxes ?
I dont know those feats, at face value id say yes, yes I do.
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Being able to touch a abstract seems like a way to to touch her, tho the damage would have to be enough to break or dissipate a large energy formation.
I dont know about the black hole, but if its anything like a irl black hole then id say thats a step above Phoenix, as she never encountered one, and she has no feats to escape its extreme mass/gravity)
Ends in sex.
Jean is non-corporal, she doesn't need a body.
In fact she exploded her own body, then became a firebird; because that is what she is an giant energy fire bird.
There is nothing to punch.
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These battles need to be restricted to 'the avatar of the Phoenix' that would be Jeans body, if you obliterate the body you win, Supergirl can at least fight against this.
Non restricted Phoenix Jean can compete with full IG Thanos, the DCU De-creator, MCU Dormammu, and the like, but shit stomps most non abstract CMB characters.
Do u think can current Barry harm Phoenix via abstract conciousness carrying feat + Speed forc protection from black hole haxes ?
I dont know those feats, at face value id say yes, yes I do.
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Being able to touch a abstract seems like a way to to touch her, tho the damage would have to be enough to break or dissipate a large energy formation.
I dont know about the black hole, but if its anything like a irl black hole then id say thats a step above Phoenix, as she never encountered one, and she has no feats to escape its extreme mass/gravity)
Kara now was oneshoting those shadow demons. B4 saying Batwoman, Oliver, Atom, Mia could destroy them with their weaponry they were preped with Atom's particles of antimatter. Not saying they are on phoenix lvl not even close but remember Kara ( did more than Superman ) uploaded completely discharged quantum tower ( to quench this high dimensional antimatter wave ) + those demons came from Anti-Monitor's realm what is already sth above 3d universe/uncorporeal. Same antimatter realm could block magic of john Constantine
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