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#1 Edited by KoolKermy (104 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix replaces Thanos in Endgame, can she win?

R1: Dark Phoenix by herself

R2: She has the Black Order and Thanos Army

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#2 Posted by miekskywalker (2483 posts) - - Show Bio

Easily

Dark phoneix shouldn't be matched with high tiers since its spite.

I think even if she was cut by stormbreaker the phoneix would protect her and keep her whole.

Like when the guy pierces her with the spear the wound is glowing from the phoneix rather than her bleeding.

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#3 Edited by JDogg (1141 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix would smash the entirety of the Avengers, Thanos' army, and black order together.

She is faster than QS, stronger than Mag's magnetism control, stronger than Charles' tp, and can manipulate matter.

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#4 Posted by deactivated-5cfefdb3f097d (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at round 2, she doesn’t need fodders helping her out

Thanos and the Avengers may as well band together and they’d still get wrecked

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#5 Posted by Tony501 (254 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch

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#6 Posted by MattyBoi (1178 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. Add thanos and jean still stomps.

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#7 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (3144 posts) - - Show Bio

She does it on her own better than Thanos did with his army lmao

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#8 Posted by X_insignia1 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@jdogg:

She's not faster than QS, he definitely wasn't moving at his top speed(in fact thousands of times slower) since a bullet traveled about 48 inches during the entire scene , + Scott and storm were actively falling very slowly + moving debris. He got caught by surprise.

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#9 Posted by del_torro (3829 posts) - - Show Bio

That bullet was moving while Quicksilver was standing still. Once he started running lightning was frozen to him

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#10 Posted by eri123 (1949 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean stomps.

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#11 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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#12 Posted by X_insignia1 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@del_torro:

Not, it was still moving. The entire scene starts when he slowers everything down, lighting slows, Scott and Storm fall even slower, than it shows the bullet still moving, then he's running and debris is moving. From the moment the scene slows, everything is moving at a constant rate. When he's starts running the camera focus on him, and not the bullet, unless you're trying to tell me that debris moves faster than bullets?

There's really no way around it.

Like I said Jean wins, but she isn't statuing him.

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#13 Posted by GeorgeWBush (12500 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean disintegrates them all

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#14 Posted by EasternGlider (158 posts) - - Show Bio

^

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#15 Posted by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

She kills all the Avengers before they know what happens.

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#16 Posted by Bearderby (528 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean solos Avengers and Thanos and his army at the same time

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#17 Posted by Rajjar (2505 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

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#18 Posted by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

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#19 Posted by Rajjar (2505 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:
@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

Well he didn't even attempt to collect them on his own in EG

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#20 Edited by iLambda (28 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: Its not really wank if she indeed is not a high-tier-glass-cannon(which she isn't), but actually a cosmic spirit of creation and destruction that has transcended mortality altogether(which she is. Giant punches or giant cuts or giant energy beams aren't doing squat.). It makes sense that people would say she stomp while overlooking Dr Strange(who didnt do much during the endgame final battle) That said, this all hinges on whether Strange can do BFR/Banishment(which i don't think she really has a counter to).

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#21 Edited by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@oraculi said:
@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

Well he didn't even attempt to collect them on his own in EG

Well with telepathy she can figure it out on her own tbh, it just depends where she starts exactly.

If it's where and as soon as Hulk does the snap then she fodderizies all of them before they can put up a fight then uses the gauntlet to kill the army that comes through the portals.

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#22 Edited by geekryan (5097 posts) - - Show Bio

@jdogg said:

Dark Phoenix would smash the entirety of the Avengers, Thanos' army, and black order together.

She is faster than QS, stronger than Mag's magnetism control, stronger than Charles' tp, and can manipulate matter.

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#23 Posted by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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Statues can't fight back

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#24 Posted by from_beyond (968 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean solos Avengers and Thanos and his army at the same time

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#25 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:
@supermanforever said:

Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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First of all thor is much faster than thor fodder aliens and miles more durable. She wouldnt be able to do that to thor because she has not done that to someone at thors level.

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#26 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: she has the power to bust a planet she'll do just fine and he has no feats of resisting direct molecular deconstruction. He has blunt force and heat resistance. So prove his molecules are different than other molecules, especially when two kids with building level range can destroy adamantium with molecular deconstruction and Jean dwarfs them by a large margin.

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#27 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: Dont tag me again. I had enough from your childish behaviour from the last post

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#28 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: so once again no feats nor proof just wank and words? Typical. I'll tag you as many times as I feel like it, to combat your incessant use of baseless statements.

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#29 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: so once again no feats nor proof just wank and words? Typical. I'll tag you as many times as I feel like it, to combat your incessant use of baseless statements.

are you blind or just cant read?

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#30 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: I see just fine and I read very well, but you don't run $hi+ around here. I mean you do run... out of threads and to mods, but that's not the topic.

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#31 Posted by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: Waaaat?

How's Thor much faster?

He's peak human in combat speed at his best.

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#32 Edited by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans said:

@supermanforever: I see just fine and I read very well, but you don't run $hi+ around here. I mean you do run... out of threads and to mods, but that's not the topic.

then you can clearly see that i said dont tag me

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#33 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: ...and you clearly saw that I said I'll do it as many times as I feel like it. You can end this by not responding and not posting baseless statements.

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#34 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:

@supermanforever: Waaaat?

How's Thor much faster?

He's peak human in combat speed at his best.

Thor? lol no. As much as i hate when people try to make him as if he is able to react to fast things he isnt peak human level. He is much faster than that. Though his combat is trash, its still not that bad. Mostly i think thor would be able to fight here because he is very durable.

But my statment does not mean that i think thor wins. She could beat him via telepathy. The rest on the field are not very durable so nearly all of them get disintegrated just like Dk did in the last stand.

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#35 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: ...and you clearly saw that I said I'll do it as many times as I feel like it. You can end this by not responding and not posting baseless statements.

well then dont tag me if you dont get any response?

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#36 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio
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#38 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: I wouldn't tag you if you didn't make baseless statements. Remember there are two stipulations and you can't seem to do either.

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#39 Posted by GeorgeWBush (12500 posts) - - Show Bio

She’s legitimately above anyone in the MCU barring Dormammu.

She solos and then flies away

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#40 Posted by Supermanforever (9026 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: I wouldn't tag you if you didn't make baseless statements. Remember there are two stipulations and you can't seem to do either.

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Funny to hear it from someone who got debunked the other day and started insulting because he had no argument. Cant take you serious and you earned it.

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#41 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (7220 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: what did you debunk? You started talking about my wet dreams and cried when I returned your troll energy 10 fold.

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#42 Posted by Oraculi (3881 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: What speed feats does Thor have outside of flight?

I never saw him as superhuman in combat speed, even Ironman/Cap has managed to react to him.

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#43 Posted by death4bunnies (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:

@supermanforever: What speed feats does Thor have outside of flight?

I never saw him as superhuman in combat speed, even Ironman/Cap has managed to react to him.

He redirected this hydra blast whist doing a flip through the air, and when he redirects it it his the guy who fired it.

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He has lot of other showings, mostly against energy weapons and Hela's blades.


He's not speedster fast but he was the only one in AOU able to perceive and react to MCU Quicksilver; tho he didnt land a shot on him. Also when Quicksilver 'statues' the avengers Thor is the only one moving.

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#44 Posted by PyroFN (6632 posts) - - Show Bio

Only thing that will work is BFR, which can only be effective to an alternate dimension. If Strange or any of the magic users port her to another part of the universe or something along those lines, she will simply travel back to Earth.

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#45 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9449 posts) - - Show Bio

After watching Dark Phoenix, I'll give it to Jean. None of them are resistant to molecular manipulation or atomic desintegration. Their only chance is BFR but they have to do it before she atomize them all

The army and the Black order are non-factors really 😋

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#46 Posted by Eredin12 (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean stomps them.

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#47 Posted by CreoleCuddy (836 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean stomps.

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#48 Posted by deactivated-5d0ddd60d0f15 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean curbs MCU