FOX Dark Phoenix Replaces MCU Thanos

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#1  Edited By KoolKermy

Dark Phoenix replaces Thanos in Endgame, can she win?

R1: Dark Phoenix by herself

R2: She has the Black Order and Thanos Army

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Easily

Dark phoneix shouldn't be matched with high tiers since its spite.

I think even if she was cut by stormbreaker the phoneix would protect her and keep her whole.

Like when the guy pierces her with the spear the wound is glowing from the phoneix rather than her bleeding.

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#3  Edited By JDogg

Dark Phoenix would smash the entirety of the Avengers, Thanos' army, and black order together.

She is faster than QS, stronger than Mag's magnetism control, stronger than Charles' tp, and can manipulate matter.

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Lol at round 2, she doesn’t need fodders helping her out

Thanos and the Avengers may as well band together and they’d still get wrecked

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Mismatch

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Mismatch. Add thanos and jean still stomps.

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She does it on her own better than Thanos did with his army lmao

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@jdogg:

She's not faster than QS, he definitely wasn't moving at his top speed(in fact thousands of times slower) since a bullet traveled about 48 inches during the entire scene , + Scott and storm were actively falling very slowly + moving debris. He got caught by surprise.

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That bullet was moving while Quicksilver was standing still. Once he started running lightning was frozen to him

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Jean stomps.

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Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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@del_torro:

Not, it was still moving. The entire scene starts when he slowers everything down, lighting slows, Scott and Storm fall even slower, than it shows the bullet still moving, then he's running and debris is moving. From the moment the scene slows, everything is moving at a constant rate. When he's starts running the camera focus on him, and not the bullet, unless you're trying to tell me that debris moves faster than bullets?

There's really no way around it.

Like I said Jean wins, but she isn't statuing him.

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Jean disintegrates them all

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She kills all the Avengers before they know what happens.

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Jean solos Avengers and Thanos and his army at the same time

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Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

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@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

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@oraculi said:
@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

Well he didn't even attempt to collect them on his own in EG

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@rajjar: Its not really wank if she indeed is not a high-tier-glass-cannon(which she isn't), but actually a cosmic spirit of creation and destruction that has transcended mortality altogether(which she is. Giant punches or giant cuts or giant energy beams aren't doing squat.). It makes sense that people would say she stomp while overlooking Dr Strange(who didnt do much during the endgame final battle) That said, this all hinges on whether Strange can do BFR/Banishment(which i don't think she really has a counter to).

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#21  Edited By Oraculi

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@oraculi said:
@rajjar said:

Lmao this wank. She gets BFRed.

I mean if she replaces Thanos she'd have the IG and start collecting the stones anyway so they couldn't bfr her.

Well he didn't even attempt to collect them on his own in EG

Well with telepathy she can figure it out on her own tbh, it just depends where she starts exactly.

If it's where and as soon as Hulk does the snap then she fodderizies all of them before they can put up a fight then uses the gauntlet to kill the army that comes through the portals.

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#22  Edited By geekryan

@jdogg said:

Dark Phoenix would smash the entirety of the Avengers, Thanos' army, and black order together.

She is faster than QS, stronger than Mag's magnetism control, stronger than Charles' tp, and can manipulate matter.

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Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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Statues can't fight back

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Jean solos Avengers and Thanos and his army at the same time

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@oraculi said:
@supermanforever said:

Gets stomped. Jean is terribly overrated. Her best feat was defeating fodder and fodder aliens.

Thor would split her in half casually.

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Statues can't fight back

First of all thor is much faster than thor fodder aliens and miles more durable. She wouldnt be able to do that to thor because she has not done that to someone at thors level.

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#26  Edited By LordOfAllHumans

@supermanforever: she has the power to bust a planet she'll do just fine and he has no feats of resisting direct molecular deconstruction. He has blunt force and heat resistance. So prove his molecules are different than other molecules, especially when two kids with building level range can destroy adamantium with molecular deconstruction and Jean dwarfs them by a large margin.

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@lordofallhumans: Dont tag me again. I had enough from your childish behaviour from the last post

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@supermanforever: so once again no feats nor proof just wank and words? Typical. I'll tag you as many times as I feel like it, to combat your incessant use of baseless statements.

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@supermanforever: so once again no feats nor proof just wank and words? Typical. I'll tag you as many times as I feel like it, to combat your incessant use of baseless statements.

are you blind or just cant read?

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@supermanforever: I see just fine and I read very well, but you don't run $hi+ around here. I mean you do run... out of threads and to mods, but that's not the topic.

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@supermanforever: Waaaat?

How's Thor much faster?

He's peak human in combat speed at his best.

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#32  Edited By Supermanforever

@lordofallhumans said:

@supermanforever: I see just fine and I read very well, but you don't run $hi+ around here. I mean you do run... out of threads and to mods, but that's not the topic.

then you can clearly see that i said dont tag me

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@supermanforever: ...and you clearly saw that I said I'll do it as many times as I feel like it. You can end this by not responding and not posting baseless statements.

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@oraculi said:

@supermanforever: Waaaat?

How's Thor much faster?

He's peak human in combat speed at his best.

Thor? lol no. As much as i hate when people try to make him as if he is able to react to fast things he isnt peak human level. He is much faster than that. Though his combat is trash, its still not that bad. Mostly i think thor would be able to fight here because he is very durable.

But my statment does not mean that i think thor wins. She could beat him via telepathy. The rest on the field are not very durable so nearly all of them get disintegrated just like Dk did in the last stand.

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@supermanforever: ...and you clearly saw that I said I'll do it as many times as I feel like it. You can end this by not responding and not posting baseless statements.

well then dont tag me if you dont get any response?

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@supermanforever: I wouldn't tag you if you didn't make baseless statements. Remember there are two stipulations and you can't seem to do either.

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She’s legitimately above anyone in the MCU barring Dormammu.

She solos and then flies away

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@supermanforever: I wouldn't tag you if you didn't make baseless statements. Remember there are two stipulations and you can't seem to do either.

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Funny to hear it from someone who got debunked the other day and started insulting because he had no argument. Cant take you serious and you earned it.

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#41  Edited By LordOfAllHumans

@supermanforever: what did you debunk? You started talking about my wet dreams and cried when I returned your troll energy 10 fold.

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@supermanforever: What speed feats does Thor have outside of flight?

I never saw him as superhuman in combat speed, even Ironman/Cap has managed to react to him.

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@supermanforever: What speed feats does Thor have outside of flight?

I never saw him as superhuman in combat speed, even Ironman/Cap has managed to react to him.

He redirected this hydra blast whist doing a flip through the air, and when he redirects it it his the guy who fired it.

He has lot of other showings, mostly against energy weapons and Hela's blades.


He's not speedster fast but he was the only one in AOU able to perceive and react to MCU Quicksilver; tho he didnt land a shot on him. Also when Quicksilver 'statues' the avengers Thor is the only one moving.

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Only thing that will work is BFR, which can only be effective to an alternate dimension. If Strange or any of the magic users port her to another part of the universe or something along those lines, she will simply travel back to Earth.

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After watching Dark Phoenix, I'll give it to Jean. None of them are resistant to molecular manipulation or atomic desintegration. Their only chance is BFR but they have to do it before she atomize them all

The army and the Black order are non-factors really ?

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Jean stomps.

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Jean curbs MCU

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jean fart and destroy the avengers and thanos army

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Thor, Captain Marvel, and Thanos are the only remote threats. She beats them too.