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Both in their prime who'd win in a match between the 2 best pound for pound fighters to ever live?

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Lol you think Floyd is one of the greatest p4p boxers of all time? He's the best there is in his division in one of the weakest boxing eras in history.

The only words that should preceed "of all time" in regards to Mayweather are "Most overrated".

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Sugar Ray beats his ass. He's better in pretty much all relevant categories sans defense and he's not far behind there either.

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Sugar Ray beats his ass. He's better in pretty much all relevant categories sans defense and he's not far behind there either.

My thoughts exactly

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Sugar Ray beats his ass. He's better in pretty much all relevant categories sans defense and he's not far behind there either.

My thoughts exactly

Ray beats him like he beat his daddy.

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Leonard busts a blood vessel chasing Mayweather around the ring and dies.

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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

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Lol you think Floyd is one of the greatest p4p boxers of all time? He's the best there is in his division in one of the weakest boxing eras in history.

The only words that should preceed "of all time" in regards to Mayweather are "Most overrated".

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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

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Sugar Ray kills Floyd and dances around the ring as he does it. He might make Floyd cry even.

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Sugar Ray kills Floyd and dances around the ring as he does it. He might make Floyd cry even.

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@comicstooge said:
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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

Have you ever seen a Sugar Ray Leonard fight? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know you're clueless at the best of times, but this is embarrassing.

Floyd's chin is good, but it's not Duran or Hagler good. Mayweather Sr fought with the same style his son uses and you saw what happened to him in the gif above. Sugar is faster in terms of hand speed, hits harder and is bigger. Ray Leonard beat the other three in the Fabulous Four (Duran, himself, Hagler and Hearns) who are all considered among the greatest ever, Pretty Boy's resume doesn't compare. De La Hoya pressured Mayweather using just his jab for much of their fight, Sugar would bolo-punch Mayweather to death (not really, but that imagine is hilarious).

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Sugar Ray kills Floyd and dances around the ring as he does it. He might make Floyd cry even.

No Mas 2.0.

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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

Have you ever seen a Sugar Ray Leonard fight? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know you're clueless at the best of times, but this is embarrassing.

Floyd's chin is good, but it's not Duran or Hagler good. Mayweather Sr fought with the same style his son uses and you saw what happened to him in the gif above. Sugar is faster in terms of hand speed, hits harder and is bigger. Ray Leonard beat the other three in the Fabulous Four (Duran, himself, Hagler and Hearns) who are all considered among the greatest ever, Pretty Boy's resume doesn't compare. De La Hoya pressured Mayweather using just his jab for much of their fight, Sugar would bolo-punch Mayweather to death (not really, but that imagine is hilarious).

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I have seen him fight. Floyd's father is much worse than Floyd style be damned. Suger's not faster nor is he better. Does he hit harder? Debatable with prime Floyd. Floyd would destroy Leonard hard.

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I agree Lenoard would most likely win but there's a lot of Floyd low balling and discrediting in this thread Sugar Ray takes it 7/10 tho

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#18  Edited By ComicStooge

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@comicstooge said:
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Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

Have you ever seen a Sugar Ray Leonard fight? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know you're clueless at the best of times, but this is embarrassing.

Floyd's chin is good, but it's not Duran or Hagler good. Mayweather Sr fought with the same style his son uses and you saw what happened to him in the gif above. Sugar is faster in terms of hand speed, hits harder and is bigger. Ray Leonard beat the other three in the Fabulous Four (Duran, himself, Hagler and Hearns) who are all considered among the greatest ever, Pretty Boy's resume doesn't compare. De La Hoya pressured Mayweather using just his jab for much of their fight, Sugar would bolo-punch Mayweather to death (not really, but that imagine is hilarious).

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I have seen him fight. Floyd's father is much worse than Floyd style be damned. Suger's not faster nor is he better. Does he hit harder? Debatable with prime Floyd. Floyd would destroy Leonard hard.

What exactly has he done that proved him to be faster or better, beyond beating inferior competition? Prime Floyd's last knockout was against an exhausted Ricky Hatton who was out of his weightclass anyway.Beating Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred Benítez ect is better than anything Mayweather had done,

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@darkraiden said:
@comicstooge said:
@darkraiden said:
@comicstooge said:
@darkraiden said:

Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

Have you ever seen a Sugar Ray Leonard fight? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know you're clueless at the best of times, but this is embarrassing.

Floyd's chin is good, but it's not Duran or Hagler good. Mayweather Sr fought with the same style his son uses and you saw what happened to him in the gif above. Sugar is faster in terms of hand speed, hits harder and is bigger. Ray Leonard beat the other three in the Fabulous Four (Duran, himself, Hagler and Hearns) who are all considered among the greatest ever, Pretty Boy's resume doesn't compare. De La Hoya pressured Mayweather using just his jab for much of their fight, Sugar would bolo-punch Mayweather to death (not really, but that imagine is hilarious).

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I have seen him fight. Floyd's father is much worse than Floyd style be damned. Suger's not faster nor is he better. Does he hit harder? Debatable with prime Floyd. Floyd would destroy Leonard hard.

What exactly has he done that proved him to be faster or better, beyond beating inferior competition? Prime Floyd's last knockout was against an exhausted Ricky Hatton who was out of his weightclass anyway.Beating Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred Benítez ect is better than anything Mayweather had done,

Young Floyd. You're bringing up old Floyd. Floyd's hit ratio compared to his competition is ridiculous as is the amount of rounds he's won. And Floyd beat Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, Manny, Marquez, and Canelo. And more. His resume's just fine.

Plus Floyd's undefeated, Leonard's not. Resume wise, Floyd takes it. Skill wise, Floyd takes it.

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@comicstooge said:
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@comicstooge said:
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@darkraiden said:

Floyd mops the floor with him. He's the greatest defensive boxer of all time. You can't beat what you can't hit.

Nice trolling, son. An aging Shane Mosley hit him.

Once. And then Floyd beat his ass for 11 rounds. Oh and that proves Floyd not only has defense, but chin. Leonard gets mangled.

Have you ever seen a Sugar Ray Leonard fight? You have no idea what you're talking about. I know you're clueless at the best of times, but this is embarrassing.

Floyd's chin is good, but it's not Duran or Hagler good. Mayweather Sr fought with the same style his son uses and you saw what happened to him in the gif above. Sugar is faster in terms of hand speed, hits harder and is bigger. Ray Leonard beat the other three in the Fabulous Four (Duran, himself, Hagler and Hearns) who are all considered among the greatest ever, Pretty Boy's resume doesn't compare. De La Hoya pressured Mayweather using just his jab for much of their fight, Sugar would bolo-punch Mayweather to death (not really, but that imagine is hilarious).

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I have seen him fight. Floyd's father is much worse than Floyd style be damned. Suger's not faster nor is he better. Does he hit harder? Debatable with prime Floyd. Floyd would destroy Leonard hard.

What exactly has he done that proved him to be faster or better, beyond beating inferior competition? Prime Floyd's last knockout was against an exhausted Ricky Hatton who was out of his weightclass anyway.Beating Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Wilfred Benítez ect is better than anything Mayweather had done,

Young Floyd. You're bringing up old Floyd. Floyd's hit ratio compared to his competition is ridiculous as is the amount of rounds he's won. And Floyd beat Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, Manny, Marquez, and Canelo. And more. His resume's just fine.

Plus Floyd's undefeated, Leonard's not. Resume wise, Floyd takes it. Skill wise, Floyd takes it.

The only person who beat Leonard in his prime was Duran and Leonard came back and beat him so bad he literally quit out of frustration. Manny, Oscar and Mosley were all passed it physically. Canelo, Marquez and the like are good, but for every good fighter Floyd's beaten, you can name a better fighter Leonard's beaten. Who cares about Floyd's record? Ayub Kalule was undefeated in 36 fights before he met and got TKO'd by Leonard.

I mean, your responses are just generic and nondescript dude, which suggests to me you don't know what you're talking about. Mayweather's knockout of Hatton occurred 6 years ago he was surely in his prime.

Leonard is both a skilled outside boxer (Floyd struggled against Del La Hoya's jab initially and Leonard is superior to Oscar at practically everything) and a balls to the wall swarming assault weapon (see his fight with Hearns) which Floyd has always struggled against. Add in the fact that Leonard is the larger of the two and won't be bullied in the clinch and Floyd loses the decision far more often than not.

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Floyd is one of the best to ever step in a ring if you know boxing. People hate him because he fights smart and his defense is impeccable , his only weakness is his hands which have been brittle and injury prone his whole career. His hands are the only reason his KO ratio isn't on par with some of the other greats.

That being said ,Sugar Ray Leonard was as fast, and sharp as Floyd with a killer instinct to boot. He would beat Floyd by majority decision 7/10.

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Floyd is one of the best to ever step in a ring if you know boxing. People hate him because he fights smart and his defense is impeccable , his only weakness is his hands which have been brittle and injury prone his whole career. His hands are the only reason his KO ratio isn't on par with some of the other greats.

That being said ,Sugar Ray Leonard was as fast, and sharp as Floyd with a killer instinct to boot. He would beat Floyd by majority decision 7/10.

Same. People hate him so bad they have to make these matches for him to lose.

Everyone said Manny would win now that he defeated Manny he's past it.

It never ends.

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@darkraiden: bit of advice for you pal, don't try and argue against @comicstooge: when it comes to boxing, Comicstooge has enclypedic knowledge when it comes to boxing.

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@never_give_up said:

@citizensentry: He also hates Mayweather lol

So do I....He's a coward a wife beater and a sh!t boxer.

Last part is far from true.

Why do people turn everything into politics...

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@darkraiden: bit of advice for you pal, don't try and argue against @comicstooge: when it comes to boxing, Comicstooge has enclypedic knowledge when it comes to boxing.

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he's just a Mayweather hater or a Leonard fanboy.

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#28  Edited By ComicStooge

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@citizensentry said:

@darkraiden: bit of advice for you pal, don't try and argue against @comicstooge: when it comes to boxing, Comicstooge has enclypedic knowledge when it comes to boxing.

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he's just a Mayweather hater or a Leonard fanboy.

Well, for some thing guys like SheenLantern, Frozen and RelloMan blow me out of the water when it comes to this stuff. In any case, Mayweather would win his fair share of rounds, but Leonard is that much better. You should never call anyone a fanboy, that statement is dripping with irony coming from you.

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Floyd is one of the best to ever step in a ring if you know boxing. People hate him because he fights smart and his defense is impeccable , his only weakness is his hands which have been brittle and injury prone his whole career. His hands are the only reason his KO ratio isn't on par with some of the other greats.

That being said ,Sugar Ray Leonard was as fast, and sharp as Floyd with a killer instinct to boot. He would beat Floyd by majority decision 7/10.

Same. People hate him so bad they have to make these matches for him to lose.

Everyone said Manny would win now that he defeated Manny he's past it.

It never ends.

He beat an over the hill Manny, good for him. The reason people make these fights for him to lose is because his career is filled with "what ifs" because he was too much of a coward during the later stages of his career to really test himself against guys who might beat him. Dream fights are all been apart of being a fan of combat sports, comes with the territory.

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@comicstooge: Before that match everyone said Manny would win. Now that he's won the win isn't that important. Or people diminish it...

Mayweather was calling mad people out but they ducked him.

People having sore teeth so they can't fight him lol.

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When has anyone put Leonard against a HV. Look at the odds people put Mayweather against seriously.

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@never_give_up:

"No one can ever brainwash me to make me believe that Sugar Ray Robinson and

Muhammad Ali was better than me,” Mayweather said via ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s

First Take. No one could ever brainwash me and tell me that.

The above quote is why people know that Floyd is a dick....

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@citizensentry said:

@darkraiden: bit of advice for you pal, don't try and argue against @comicstooge: when it comes to boxing, Comicstooge has enclypedic knowledge when it comes to boxing.

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he's just a Mayweather hater or a Leonard fanboy.

Or maybe he isn't on the Maywagon......

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@comicstooge: Before that match everyone said Manny would win. Now that he's won the win isn't that important. Or people diminish it...

Mayweather was calling mad people out but they ducked him.

People having sore teeth so they can't fight him lol.

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When has anyone put Leonard against a HV. Look at the odds people put Mayweather against seriously.

Actually, most articles I saw stated how Floyd would win. The only people who actually thought Manny would win were salty Filipinos.

Poor Mayweather. I'm sure he cries into his money pit. It's funny how Floyd's fans talk mad shit and post gifs of him throwing money around, but as soon as they bring up very legitimate criticisms, suddenly he should be respected because he had to walk over a few broken needles to get to his boxing gym when he was a teenager or the fact that people who hate him want to see him lose.

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LOL

"Leonard gets mangled" the vine always brings a smile to my face.

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@comicstooge: I didn't post a money gif. You said he ducked, here's a video of him calling people out. Try again.

@never_give_up:

"No one can ever brainwash me to make me believe that Sugar Ray Robinson and

Muhammad Ali was better than me,” Mayweather said via ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s

First Take. No one could ever brainwash me and tell me that.

The above quote is why people know that Floyd is a dick....

Boxing is a competitive sport you're suppose to believe you're the best.

There's no I think I can beat him...

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@comicstooge: I didn't post a money gif. You said he ducked, here's a video of him calling people out. Try again.

@citizensentry said:

@never_give_up:

"No one can ever brainwash me to make me believe that Sugar Ray Robinson and

Muhammad Ali was better than me,” Mayweather said via ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s

First Take. No one could ever brainwash me and tell me that.

The above quote is why people know that Floyd is a dick....

Boxing is a competitive sport you're suppose to believe you're the best.

There's no I think I can beat him...

  • Muhammad Ali
  • Mike Tyson
  • Willie Pep
  • Henry Armstrong
  • Rocky Marciano
  • Julio Cesar Chavez
  • Jack Dempsey
  • Jack Johnson
  • Sugar Ray Johnson
  • Joe Louis
  • Sugar Ray Leonard

All of the above could Lay Floyd out In their prime.

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Who knows, it'd be a sick fight.

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@citizensentry: all of them except Pep, Chavez and Leonard are way bigger than Floyd of course they'd beat him.

Leonard wins

Floyd embarrasses Chavez like Frankie" The Surgeon" Randall and Sweet Pea did.

Pep I don't know that much about other than his Defense is legendary like Floyd.

Remember a lot of fighters fought over the hill fighters too.

De Lahoya beat old ass Chavez.

Holmes beat old ass Ali.

Marciano beat old ass Louis.

That's part of boxing.

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@darkraiden said:
@citizensentry said:

@darkraiden: bit of advice for you pal, don't try and argue against @comicstooge: when it comes to boxing, Comicstooge has enclypedic knowledge when it comes to boxing.

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like he's just a Mayweather hater or a Leonard fanboy.

Well, for some thing guys like SheenLantern, Frozen and RelloMan blow me out of the water when it comes to this stuff. In any case, Mayweather would win his fair share of rounds, but Leonard is that much better. You should never call anyone a fanboy, that statement is dripping with irony coming from you.

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Floyd is one of the best to ever step in a ring if you know boxing. People hate him because he fights smart and his defense is impeccable , his only weakness is his hands which have been brittle and injury prone his whole career. His hands are the only reason his KO ratio isn't on par with some of the other greats.

That being said ,Sugar Ray Leonard was as fast, and sharp as Floyd with a killer instinct to boot. He would beat Floyd by majority decision 7/10.

Same. People hate him so bad they have to make these matches for him to lose.

Everyone said Manny would win now that he defeated Manny he's past it.

It never ends.

He beat an over the hill Manny, good for him. The reason people make these fights for him to lose is because his career is filled with "what ifs" because he was too much of a coward during the later stages of his career to really test himself against guys who might beat him. Dream fights are all been apart of being a fan of combat sports, comes with the territory.

I'm not even a Floyd fan so I can't be a fanboy. I just recognize how good he is. Leonard likely wouldn't win more than 3 rounds. He'd get washed.

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@citizensentry: Why did you name a bunch of HW's Mayweather is a WW lol

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@citizensentry: Why did you name a bunch of HW's Mayweather is a WW lol

There's no I think I can beat him...

"There's no I can think of that can beat him"*

I just listed a several people that could lay him out..

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@citizensentry: all of them except Pep, Chavez and Leonard are way bigger than Floyd of course they'd beat him.

Leonard wins

Floyd embarrasses Chavez like Frankie" The Surgeon" Randall and Sweet Pea did.

Pep I don't know that much about other than his Defense is legendary like Floyd.

Remember a lot of fighters fought over the hill fighters too.

De Lahoya beat old ass Chavez.

Holmes beat old ass Ali.

Marciano beat old ass Louis.

That's part of boxing.

I was referring to them when they were in their prime.

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#42  Edited By Mr_NoFunAllowed

Flomos.-Floyd homosexual. Use that to describe floyd fan boys.

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@never_give_up said:

@citizensentry: Why did you name a bunch of HW's Mayweather is a WW lol

There's no I think I can beat him...

"There's no I can think of that can beat him"*

I just listed a several people that could lay him out..

You actually didn't people love to low ball Mayweather and throw the word prime.

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@darkraiden: Leonard's definitely not getting washed at all. Zab Judah won early rounds against Floyd and scored a knockdown in the 2nd round iirc that was ruled a slip and SRL would demolish Zab.

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  • Muhammad Ali(HW)
  • Mike Tyson(HW)
  • Willie Pep(NO)
  • Henry Armstrong(NO)
  • Rocky Marciano(HW)
  • Julio Cesar Chavez(NO)
  • Jack Dempsey(HW)
  • Jack Johnson(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Robinson(YES)
  • Joe Louis(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Leonard(YES)

All of the above could Lay Floyd out In their prime.

Why did you name 6 HW's to KO a WW?

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@darkraiden: Leonard's definitely not getting washed at all. Zab Judah won early rounds against Floyd and scored a knockdown in the 2nd round iirc that was ruled a slip and SRL would demolish Zab.

Try not to do ABC Logic in boxing.

I'm not saying you're wrong though.

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zab judah was talented enough and fast enough that he could possibly fight with srl for a bit before the inevitable collapse. i don't think anyone can really call this one btw. we'd have to get them in the ring to see exactly how their styles clash.

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@citizensentry said:
  • Muhammad Ali(HW)
  • Mike Tyson(HW)
  • Willie Pep(NO)
  • Henry Armstrong(NO)
  • Rocky Marciano(HW)
  • Julio Cesar Chavez(NO)
  • Jack Dempsey(HW)
  • Jack Johnson(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Robinson(YES)
  • Joe Louis(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Leonard(YES)

All of the above could Lay Floyd out In their prime.

Why did you name 6 HW's to KO a WW?

There's no I think I can beat him...

I just listed a several people that could lay him out.. you should have been more specific on the weight class....

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#49  Edited By never give up

@citizensentry said:
@never_give_up said:
@citizensentry said:
  • Muhammad Ali(HW)
  • Mike Tyson(HW)
  • Willie Pep(NO)
  • Henry Armstrong(NO)
  • Rocky Marciano(HW)
  • Julio Cesar Chavez(NO)
  • Jack Dempsey(HW)
  • Jack Johnson(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Robinson(YES)
  • Joe Louis(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Leonard(YES)

All of the above could Lay Floyd out In their prime.

Why did you name 6 HW's to KO a WW?

There's no I think I can beat him...

I just listed a several people that could lay him out.. you should have been more specific on the weight class....

Read what I put at the side...

But why would you ever put a HW against a WW?

I don't have to be specific about weight classes....

No offense it's common sense.

Also that was a typo who today can beat Mayweather?

Don't bring up GGG who is a MW.

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@citizensentry said:
@never_give_up said:
@citizensentry said:
  • Muhammad Ali(HW)
  • Mike Tyson(HW)
  • Willie Pep(NO)
  • Henry Armstrong(NO)
  • Rocky Marciano(HW)
  • Julio Cesar Chavez(NO)
  • Jack Dempsey(HW)
  • Jack Johnson(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Robinson(YES)
  • Joe Louis(HW)
  • Sugar Ray Leonard(YES)

All of the above could Lay Floyd out In their prime.

Why did you name 6 HW's to KO a WW?

There's no I think I can beat him...

I just listed a several people that could lay him out.. you should have been more specific on the weight class....

Read what I put at the side...

But why would you ever put a HW against a WW?

I don't have to be specific about weight classes....

No offense it's common sense.

Also that was a typo who today can beat Mayweather?

Don't bring up GGG who is a MW.

You said "there's no I think I can beat him" which translates to "I don't think anyone can beat him".

I named several people who could lay him out.

It's not common sense, if I made a battle thread called

Muhammad Ali vs. Floyd Mayweather

  • Both are the same weight class
  • etc...
  • etc...
  • etc...

People would want to know which weight class they we're in.....