The Combatants
Rules:
This is composite TV series/Animated Flash
Both are in character
No prep or prior knowledge
No BFR
Saitama starts the battle like he normally does, but will become serious if he deems it necessary
Win by death only
Flash VS Saitama
@kyrees said:
@jimmy_rustler saitama can hit JLU flash because saitama has reacted to light speed
IIRC, you're referring to the Lightspeed Flash chapters, correct? Wasn't that hyperbole?
And even if that were true, how do you know that Flash can't react just as fast? I'd actually like an answer to this particular question for future reference bc I can't remember JLU Flash's speed calcs.
not to mention that this flash gets tagged easily. when has JLU flash phased damaged someone in combat ?
Never but in the episode where he and Luthor switched brains, Luthor used his powers to phase through solid objects.
none unless you count him phasing brainiac-luthor after he punched him with his own version of IMPs, which won't even hurt saitama.
Saitama hasn't been shown to be hurt on panel so that automatically means that he's impervious to all forms of physical damage? So If he takes a shot from the Hulk or Thor, it won't phase him bc he's never been "shown" to be hurt? I don't buy that reasoning. If Flash can phase through thick alloys then I don't see why he wouldn't be able to phase through Saitama.
if you actually knew saitama, you won't say JLU flash would defeat saitama twice in this thread. instead you claimed to be insulted. cute very cute indeed
So you just assume that everyone who has a differing opinion than yours doesn't know anything about the character they're rooting against?And you have somehow become deluded into thinking that it's okay?
you need to grow a thicker skin because someone will react to you like i did sooner or later.
And, again, when they do, I'll call them on it too. I'm not the one with the problem here. If given the choice between being an a__-hole and not being an a__-hole, you can always choose to be the latter. No one in my Yhwach thread came at me cross but you and no one in this thread has accused me of not knowing anything about a character simply bc I had a differing opinion. Stop trying to throw other users into the same boat as you bc, from what I've experienced thus far, you're in that boat all by yourself. Grow up.
@kyrees said:
@jimmy_rustler: the ONE version has feats and we will have to wait on its remastered version. fan calcs are not admissible on this forum regardless of your claim of their reliability because of their varying results on pixel scaling.
I'm talking about real calcs mentioned within the comic...oh wait, there aren't any hence HYPERBOLE.
it matters the most because saitama has shown enough speed potential to catch this one and he hasn't even been serious for that matter and JLU flash is not even at light speed on his average basis. seriously, he gets tagged way too many times in the series that it's not even funny anymore.
And??? Saitama gets tagged by opponents who are slower than the Flash but the only difference is that he's too durable for blunt force to affect him.
because it is not flash, it was luthor inside flash's body. possession related feats like these are needed to be specified or else it becomes a mishmash of feats beyond what the character normally does.
Again, it's still a display of what the Flash is capable of so IT. APPLIES.
does JLU flash actually do phase shifting through organs all the time ?
No, but why would he do something like that on cartoon aimed for kids - young adults??? I see where you're going with this but I'm afraid that it's irrelevant considering that Flash is blood-lusted in this battle. So my opinion remains unchanged; Flash wins by phasing OP-M's organs out before he can even react.
why would i admit to unnecessarily pounce on people who has different opinion when that person (you) clearly showed his "supposed" knowledge on saitama on this thread twice ? who were you to say that opinion twice in the first place ? someone who has "uneducated opinion" of saitama then. on the contrary, my experiences don't mirror this kind of sensitivity from being told to read the comic and i generally have a thicker skin than you are. why would you want me to tone down my already toned down replies just because you are extremely sensitive ?
you'll believe it when you see it ?! how quaint and if you actually get one, what would you do ? get real. if you are crying foul over my statement, you'd call the mods on other people who have stronger voices than me.
This is a stomp for Saitama, and I can prove it.
JLU/TV Flash best feat by far is running around the globe and punching Lex fused with Brainiac (described as god level being and capable of beating all JL easily) really, really fast over and over until he broke. And although it was made more into a compilation then shown in real time even if we assume it took him just one second to run around the globe and punch him again, it's still nowhere near light speed. Also Flash after running so fast was literally erased from existence by the Speed Force and only came back because of combined efforts of all the Justice League to pull him out of it. In other words - Flash can't repeat this feat in this fight, or else he is losing the battle at his own wish. So Flash from TV/JL moves at MHS, but not light speeds. Also besides this power, Flash doesn't really have other powers he has in the comics.
He doesn't have healing factor - yeah he can somewhat heal in the speed force but it's never shown he is capable of utilizing it in combat.
He doesn't have super-strong punches like infinite mass punch etc. Best he can do is vibrate the matter really fast which is creating electrical sort of effect and often explosions but it's not even capable of destroying things even on a building-level.
He doesn't have super-durability. Many times in animated verse/TV series Flash was KO'd/defeated and needed JL or other help when fighting against street-level villain like Cap Boomerang, Cap. Cold and so on.
Against him we have Saitama, who is a comedy character and has "broken limiter" in other words, has literally no limits to his speed/durability/strength. And his feats prove that. We have never seen him bleed in the series, or get KO'd, or influenced by electricity/fire/gas/poison/telekinesis/city busting punches/life wiper lasers or anything else. We have never seen a character he can't kill with a single, serious punch. We have never seen his upper limit in his speed.
There is no prove Flash is better then Saitama even in speed alone. The speedsters from Saitama verse like Speed o sound sonic or flashy flash, who both move at MHS, are basically stationary to Saitama. Best speed o sound sonic's feat is creating 10 afterimages with his speed. Saitama stomped it instantly by moving so fast he could create hundreds of afterimages of himself and the shock wave from this technique alone KO'd sonic. That is at least as impressive as what animated Flash can do in my opinion, and that's NOT Saitama's limit by far, since there are no consequences for him from doing that, he doesn't get tired or anything.
So we have two characters, who can both move ridiculously fast and probably just under speeds of light, but one will get absorbed by speed force if he goes near that speed, and another can do it casually and we don't even know if it's his limit. Also Flash has little to no other powers, while Saitama also has the strength to kill the Flash in one punch, and durability to take on anything Flash can possibly pull off. So even if Flash is MUCH faster then Saitama, eventually he would lose, because Saitama can out sustain him, and kill him if he makes but ONE mistake. That's how it's a stomp for Saitama.
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