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#1 Edited by TheComicPro (455 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 versions

Morals off

Fight to the death

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#2 Posted by reaverlation (25494 posts) - - Show Bio
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Anyways Barry dumps him in the speed force

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#3 Posted by captnmcdeadpool (1003 posts) - - Show Bio

Have to agree with the above. Nu J'onn has not shown he can react fast enough to deal with Barry.

Barry for the win.

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#4 Edited by Zjun_ (494 posts) - - Show Bio

Same reasons as above.

Barry in less than a second.

Mr. Z~kun

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#5 Posted by XiiX (13583 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

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#6 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52-MMH easily, Barry isn't as ridiculous as he was and MMH has already gotten into Flash's mind and read his thoughts at Flash's speed. All Flash did was stun J'onn there, not really an impressive feat.

Reads Flash's thoughts at lighting speed...

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#7 Posted by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

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#8 Posted by reaverlation (25494 posts) - - Show Bio

@vaeternus: That should count as a speed feat for J'onzz yes?When J'onzz read Barry's mind and was said that Barry's is as fast as lightning. Not saying J'onzz wins but I believe that counts as a speed feat for J'onzz

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#9 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

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@vaeternus: That should count as a speed feat for J'onzz yes?When J'onzz read Barry's mind and was said that Barry's is as fast as lightning. Not saying J'onzz wins but I believe that counts as a speed feat for J'onzz

Yeah, the scan I posted. Pre N52 Jonn never did such I dont' believe. I agree, how many people can read at Flash's speed(thinking as fast as he is) lol. MMH also fought the rest of the JL before he left them to join the JLA taking them all at once. So i honestly believe J'onn can take Flash here.

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#10 Posted by reaverlation (25494 posts) - - Show Bio

@vaeternus: In Pre 52,J'onzz has been able to keep up with the likes of Superman and Flash and conversate and strategize in under a second and J'onzz,IIRC,tracked and read Flash's mind while he was going light speed so J'onzz doesn't lack them.That JLA scan with the New 52 Justice League:The context around the scan is unknown as we don't know the outcome of that feat.Flash should win here though as he reacts faster than J'onzz:

J'onzz=Lightning reaction

Barry=Femtosecond reaction

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#11 Edited by TheComicPro (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't MMH fly high in to sky wait for flash to jump to hit him (which should be pretty slow unless he can jump at light speeds) density shift and punch flash's brain out.

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#13 Posted by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

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#14 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (9793 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash

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#15 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

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#17 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

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#19 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Edited by lxlGiftedlxl (2443 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash

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#21 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

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#22 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't MMH fly high in to sky wait for flash to jump to hit him (which should be pretty slow unless he can jump at light speeds) density shift and punch flash's brain out.

Flash caught Wally by jumping up and catching Wally when they were moving at speeds at which there was no friction IIRC. If they're bloodlusted, Flash can beat J'onn before he leaves the ground really.

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#23 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

Yes.

Can you explain why you think he wins instead of Flash?

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#25 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

Yes.

Can you explain why you think he wins instead of Flash?

Die.

Flagged for being offensive.

Okay. Just refrain from doing what you did to me again. I really don't appreciate someone doing something like that, me getting annoyed, then me getting flagged for my agitation.

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#28 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:
@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

Yes.

Can you explain why you think he wins instead of Flash?

Die.

Flagged for being offensive.

Okay. Just refrain from doing what you did to me again. I really don't appreciate someone doing something like that, me getting annoyed, then me getting flagged for my agitation.

I was just messing around. You didn't have to go far and say "Die", especially over something as minor as this.

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#29 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:
@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

Yes.

Can you explain why you think he wins instead of Flash?

Die.

Flagged for being offensive.

Okay. Just refrain from doing what you did to me again. I really don't appreciate someone doing something like that, me getting annoyed, then me getting flagged for my agitation.

I was just messing around. You didn't have to go far and say "Die", especially over something as minor as this.

Okay. I wasn't serious. I've said that to people before here, and they were fine with it. I've said it today to someone who was saying Deadpool's power is greater than TOAA's.

Really, I've just been quoting Vergil from DMC 3 the entire time.

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#30 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:
@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4 said:

@transcendence said:

@frisky4: Are you sure? Because I think Flash would win.

Good thing I said "Flash" then.

I seriously think Flash would win. Are you sure about your choice?

Yes.

Can you explain why you think he wins instead of Flash?

Die.

Flagged for being offensive.

Okay. Just refrain from doing what you did to me again. I really don't appreciate someone doing something like that, me getting annoyed, then me getting flagged for my agitation.

I was just messing around. You didn't have to go far and say "Die", especially over something as minor as this.

Okay. I wasn't serious. I've said that to people before here, and they were fine with it. I've said it today to someone who was saying Deadpool's power is greater than TOAA's.

Really, I've just been quoting Vergil from DMC 3 the entire time.

Okay.

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#31 Posted by dannilosantiago (81 posts) - - Show Bio

My vote goes to Martian Manhunter...Since J'onn prove that he could reach Flash's mind in lightspeed,mind rape should be possible...Well J'onn in the New 52 already has some impressive feats,Flash ins't powerful as before...Yet...

One more thing...J'onn can use his telepathy while he is intangible,but,Flash could hit him intangible?

Still my vote goes to J'onn...Hard fight but...J'onn is more versatile and could adapt to the fight more easily...J'onn has Telekinesis on the New 52?I did not see it yet...

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#32 Posted by Dredeuced (6441 posts) - - Show Bio

@dannilosantiago: They've had very limited interaction. During Trinity War it appeared that Flash could keep J'onn continually incapacitated with a vibrating strike - this is why Waller needed Vibe around to counter Flash's powers so he couldn't defeat J'onn (J'onn was how she planned to beat Superman, after all).

Not that that matters. Flash clearly thinks faster than J'onn with the speed mind and all he has to do is think to send someone to the Speed Force. I do not believe J'onn has interdimensional travel so morals off Flash should automatically win.

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#33 Edited by dannilosantiago (81 posts) - - Show Bio

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@dannilosantiago: They've had very limited interaction. During Trinity War it appeared that Flash could keep J'onn continually incapacitated with a vibrating strike - this is why Waller needed Vibe around to counter Flash's powers so he couldn't defeat J'onn (J'onn was how she planned to beat Superman, after all).

Not that that matters. Flash clearly thinks faster than J'onn with the speed mind and all he has to do is think to send someone to the Speed Force. I do not believe J'onn has interdimensional travel so morals off Flash should automatically win.

Strong arguments...But Flash can hit J'onn Intangible?I did not find anything close...Also Invisibility isn't an advantage?

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#34 Edited by Apocalypse3 (2641 posts) - - Show Bio

MMH.

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#35 Posted by Frisky4 (9216 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah, the thread where my patience was tested.

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#36 Posted by BlackStarOblivion (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

Nu Barry certainly has better speed/reaction feats, but I haven't seen him bring the pain like Wally use to be able. Morals on? Well, that's anyone's guess, but I go with J'onn for TP wipe.

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#37 Posted by Dredeuced (6441 posts) - - Show Bio

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@dannilosantiago: They've had very limited interaction. During Trinity War it appeared that Flash could keep J'onn continually incapacitated with a vibrating strike - this is why Waller needed Vibe around to counter Flash's powers so he couldn't defeat J'onn (J'onn was how she planned to beat Superman, after all).

Not that that matters. Flash clearly thinks faster than J'onn with the speed mind and all he has to do is think to send someone to the Speed Force. I do not believe J'onn has interdimensional travel so morals off Flash should automatically win.

Strong arguments...But Flash can hit J'onn Intangible?I did not find anything close...Also Invisibility isn't an advantage?

Flash is also capable of going intangible so I don't see why he couldn't hit him. It's probably WHY he was able to keep J'onn completely neutralized while Waller had a full conversation with Vibe. If J'onn could easily bust out of that I imagine he would have.

It's a moot point because Morals off Barry just tosses him the Speed Force at the start of the fight and J'onn has no counter to that. Maybe invisibility would work (though Barry can do his Speed Force dump to an area, not just to a single target) to be annoying but J'onn would need to act first to do so (in which case, if J'onn is going first, he could just win with telepathy anyhow).

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#38 Posted by dannilosantiago (81 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Martian Manhunter has a better control of density than Flash while he is vibranting.But,Flash is no doubt Fastter than J'onn...But J'onn ins't very resistant,invunerable...Well it's a hard fight...You have good arguments...But I still believe Manhunter wins!

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#39 Posted by Nighthawk_313 (191 posts) - - Show Bio

It can easily go either way. MMH can mind control and go intangible. Flash can't really be hit and he might get hits before MMH goes intangible. But I don't really see either hero getting a hit.

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#40 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6127 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter uses telepathy. End of discussion.

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#41 Posted by Supermanthor (10205 posts) - - Show Bio

Mmh

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#42 Posted by Kidolio (613 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal: Depends on how fast flash’s mind is moving at the time because the above scan shows that lightning time isn’t gonna cut it but flash was able to stop Martian manhunter from reading his mind when J’onn was a black lantern but that could be post crisis I’m not sure because honestly the whole mixing post-crisis and n52 blending thing is messing with me.

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#43 Posted by RampageTheFirst (6580 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash wins quite handily.

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#44 Posted by Mister_Surreal (6127 posts) - - Show Bio

@kidolio: MM already has feats of mentally attacking the entire league.

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#45 Posted by biswaboxz (3443 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by Kidolio (613 posts) - - Show Bio

@biswaboxz: Yeah I doubt that to this flash hasn’t shown he can do it.

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#50 Posted by Mister_Surreal (6127 posts) - - Show Bio