flash vs hermes

did my picture come up? or are uses seeing a fked up screen?

Gamma says:

"Apparition says:

"i think that wonder woman has a small portion of hermes speed and she's close to flash's speed so i would say hermes would win. besides you would think hermes could cast spells and keep himself from even needing to run around in the fight. plus since magic breaks the rules of the physical world, even the speed force may have no hold on hermes, eliminating flash's greatest attacks."

no ones close to Flashes speed, no one no even sups NO ONE Dlash wins"

Ever heard of the Runner?

Lord Shazam says:

"did my picture come up? or are uses seeing a f**ked up screen?"

nope... you messed up the HTML link... delete the post and try again

M

Pay attention to what Superman says.

Valkaad says:

"Methos says:

"ZORN says:

"go to wikipedia and type flash read the powers and abilities ok maybe not .2 but he is faster than the speed of light."

i don't know who did that Wiki site, but they need to really check their facts with DC Publishers M"

I HATE wikipedia for this very reason. People read a Wiki submission created by a fanboy and think that it is accurate. I could go in right now and change Sabretooth to Class 100 strength and some wiki nut would read it and assume it is gospel."

yup... thats why i never use wiki facts to back up an argument

M

Methos says:

"ZORN says:

"go to wikipedia and type flash read the powers and abilities ok maybe not .2 but he is faster than the speed of light."

i don't know who did that Wiki site, but they need to really check their facts with DC Publishers M"

I HATE wikipedia for this very reason. People read a Wiki submission created by a fanboy and think that it is accurate. I could go in right now and change Sabretooth to Class 100 strength and some wiki nut would read it and assume it is gospel.

such hate is wrong, :(

till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods.

sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force??

"imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash.

and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent )

:)

Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :(till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods.sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force??"imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash.and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ):)"

does anyone wanna take this?

Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :(till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods.sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force??"imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash.and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ):)"

um... what?

sorry, i've just proven with quotes from the OFFICIAL DC SITE that Flash does not travel faster than light

unless you want to get into a scientific argument with me...

M

Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

Hermes is a god, and as a divine being he has certain innate divine powers. He could pretty easily take control of Flash's non-protected human mind and subjugate him to his will. As messenger of the Gods, I would assume (no facts but just a logical assumption) that hermes doesn't just rely on speed. I think that, much like the runner, he folds space and therfore moves at a speed that is greater than light and is closer to teleportation.

Methos says:

"Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

um... what? sorry, i've just proven with quotes from the OFFICIAL DC SITE that Flash does not travel faster than light unless you want to get into a scientific argument with me... M"

methos you know you cant really rely on science here. you have to rely on the comic books and the company pagees. nothing can really go faster than light, scientifically, but if dc says in a comic book that flash is running three times the speed of light, well then he is, by whatever logic they use to defend his breaking the laws of physics. so if you used the official DC site, then that should stand unless he can come back with a scan from a comic that says that flash is exceeding the speed of light.

and with that, the fact that hermes is a magically being should prove why he can be faster than flash, since magic breaks all physical laws anyway. so there :p Sync!

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Valkaad says:

"Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

Hermes is a god, and as a divine being he has certain innate divine powers. He could pretty easily take control of Flash's non-protected human mind and subjugate him to his will. As messenger of the Gods, I would assume (no facts but just a logical assumption) that hermes doesn't just rely on speed. I think that, much like the runner, he folds space and therfore moves at a speed that is greater than light and is closer to teleportation."

great answer indeed, but this is a match of speed.

once agian if flash acesses the force that controls all speed, even that of a god ( assuming of course) does he beat him, can he speed drain him still his speed ???

the above about being a god controling his mind i could see that happen, but as a god when a mortal challeges you to a race and gives you a run for the money and maybe even will beat you, cheating really does make you look bad to other gods who would mock you

Sync says:

"Valkaad says:

"Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

Hermes is a god, and as a divine being he has certain innate divine powers. He could pretty easily take control of Flash's non-protected human mind and subjugate him to his will. As messenger of the Gods, I would assume (no facts but just a logical assumption) that hermes doesn't just rely on speed. I think that, much like the runner, he folds space and therfore moves at a speed that is greater than light and is closer to teleportation."

great answer indeed, but this is a match of speed. once agian if flash acesses the force that controls all speed, even that of a god ( assuming of course) does he beat him, can he speed drain him still his speed ??? the above about being a god controling his mind i could see that happen, but as a god when a mortal challeges you to a race and gives you a run for the money and maybe even will beat you, cheating really does make you look bad to other gods who would mock you "

who said it was a race?

i know...

i just keep hoping for some logic and sense to come into arguments like this...

M

Apparition says:

"Sync says:

"Valkaad says:

"Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

Hermes is a god, and as a divine being he has certain innate divine powers. He could pretty easily take control of Flash's non-protected human mind and subjugate him to his will. As messenger of the Gods, I would assume (no facts but just a logical assumption) that hermes doesn't just rely on speed. I think that, much like the runner, he folds space and therfore moves at a speed that is greater than light and is closer to teleportation."

great answer indeed, but this is a match of speed. once agian if flash acesses the force that controls all speed, even that of a god ( assuming of course) does he beat him, can he speed drain him still his speed ??? the above about being a god controling his mind i could see that happen, but as a god when a mortal challeges you to a race and gives you a run for the money and maybe even will beat you, cheating really does make you look bad to other gods who would mock you "

who said it was a race?"

Yeah, I thought it was a battle, a fight, not just a who is faster.

Apparition says:

"Sync says:

"Valkaad says:

"Sync says:

"such hate is wrong, :( till dc decides to show the race, "imo" flash ca beat hermes, due because he controls/accesses the froce that give all things in his universe speed, even gods. sigh, so by my statement above does hermes in dc have full control of the speed force?? "imo' if he does not he cannot beat flash. and ps i what flash does in the comics exceeds the speed of light, by what normal phyics defines, also time travel in a way is faster than light (but diffent ) :)"

Hermes is a god, and as a divine being he has certain innate divine powers. He could pretty easily take control of Flash's non-protected human mind and subjugate him to his will. As messenger of the Gods, I would assume (no facts but just a logical assumption) that hermes doesn't just rely on speed. I think that, much like the runner, he folds space and therfore moves at a speed that is greater than light and is closer to teleportation."

great answer indeed, but this is a match of speed. once agian if flash acesses the force that controls all speed, even that of a god ( assuming of course) does he beat him, can he speed drain him still his speed ??? the above about being a god controling his mind i could see that happen, but as a god when a mortal challeges you to a race and gives you a run for the money and maybe even will beat you, cheating really does make you look bad to other gods who would mock you "

who said it was a race?"

everything said was about speed, if i miss in an earlier post something about god powers in the way it was said than im sorry, and fooo on me.

as for magic even it has laws according to magic user. Is the speed force magic of what????

Sync says:

"as for magic even it has laws according to magic user. Is the speed force magic of what????"

no, the speed force isn't magic...

it's an extra dimensional force that grants it's powers to those 'worthy'

M

Gamma says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Methos says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

" "

why thankyou EC... i was hoping he'd post more irrelevancies i could dispute but he seems to have gone quiet... M"

Think nothing of it Methos. They had a few others I could've posted, but I'll save those as my better bits of Ammunition. lol. He's not going to respond because you owned him into silence. There's nothing else he can say.
Post Edited:2007-08-20 13:02:43"

is your nose brown enough for you???"

Shut up fanboy

This happened in comics, 
keep in mind magic>>>>speed force
unlike flash hermes does not follow natural laws while he runs, like stopping "instantly" after going FTL
skipping while in the speed of FTL and basically running from dimensions to another.
 
flash tried catching hermes and got owned....

"

i think that wonder woman has a small portion of hermes speed and she's close to flash's speed so i would say hermes would win. besides you would think hermes could cast spells and keep himself from even needing to run around in the fight. plus since magic breaks the rules of the physical world, even the speed force may have no hold on hermes, eliminating flash's greatest attacks.

"

" This happened in comics,  keep in mind magic>>>>speed force unlike flash hermes does not follow natural laws while he runs, like stopping "instantly" after going FTL skipping while in the speed of FTL and basically running from dimensions to another.  flash tried catching hermes and got owned.... "

intersting battle

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@methos: I got so annoyed with your comments so i'm take it to bump this.

The Flash (Wally) is hundred times the speed of light. Superman IS lightspeed if you see him flying in space planet to planet in minutes its light speed and Barry who is stated slower as wally beat him in a sprint tourrnament.

And the fact that Wally can run around earth in less than a second.

You're lucky SOMEONE saw your little comment here, or you would've wasted your time. First of all, it's already been posted above that flash can move near light speed, not to or beyond. Also, as for you're "he can go around the planet in less than a second" comment, light circumnavigates (that means goes around) the planet 7.5 times a second.

Flash

the thread is long dead and done with, but at the time I assume they were talking about Wally

Flash stomps

Mismatch(as many are aware, Mercury is another name Hermes is called/known by).

Flash

@spectrum: the speed force is faster than light speed and the flash can unlock it so...

Bump and hermes

@pharoh_fey: no

Barry Allen ran 10 times faster than the speed of light to destroy the anti monitor, im not sure how fast Wally could run

I realize I'm bumping a very old thread, but, can't help myself... Are you really saying that Flash is NOT faster than light?

flash

@watcher5000:

Any reasoning? They already fought and Hermes was the clear winner. Flash even admits that Hermes is faster. Plus, Hermes has all kinds of other abilities.

@bladeoffury: Flash has PICOSECOND combat speed. Has attosecond reflexes. Punches hard enough to KO Mongul and White Martians. Can phase through attacks. Can vibrate through people causing them to explode. Can reverse the energy that should go to your muscles and send it to your brain causing seizures.

Spider-Man beat Firelord in a book. So just because PIS happened in a comic doesn't mean it'll happen on CV.

Also, I thought we were talking about Marvel Hermes. If DC Hermes has feats, I'd like to hear them.

@p00ty:

DC Hermes is the one with the feats.

Flash admits that Hermes is faster than him:

Heck, Flash even says that Hermes is faster than him by about as much as he is faster than normal people:

Hermes humiliates and speed steals from Flash, taking him out:

Hermes teleports across dimensions along with Wonder Woman:

Hermes uses matter manipulation to restore Boston:

Hermes also has size manipulation, energy projection, healing, and other hax abilities.

@bladeoffury: Wally has gotten much faster since then and much better at using his powers. From those scans it doesn't even prove that Hermes is light speed. Much less picosecond speed. And at that time Wally was to slow to hit him so Hermes durability is suspect. And nothing in that scan says that Hermes use Speed Steal. You have to have a connection to the speed force to do speed steal. So while Hermes may have been to fast for Flash before. I doubt he has lightspeed or picosecond speed feats. Nor the durability to tank Flash punches. At one time Hermes was superior. I'm not sure that's still the case.

Wally wins.

@bladeoffury: that was before Wally had even unlocked his potential or achieved nirvania with the speed force.And even when they fought flash came close to beating him

No, she's not even close to it.

Remember when Flash saved the population of Chongin North Korea from a nuclear blast . Within .00001 microseconds. By carrying them out one or two at a time to a safe distance. 616 some million people. All the other superheroes (superman and wonderwoman inclueded) were remaining motionless compared to flash's speed and didn't notice him doing anything.

Wally wins via Speed Steal and he makes himself a new statue or.......

Wally destroys.

Flash.

Off-topic, threads with OP's like this really make me hate the no dupe rule.

Flash.

Hermes is 93 times faster than superman not to talk about flash