FKT Aizen vs Obito

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FKT Aizen in first Chrysallis form

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War arc Obito, Rinnegan + Sharingan

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By AlexTheBoss

Aizen can cross dimensions so Obito can't BFR him, Aizen is immortal and more durable than Obito, so putting him down would be extremely difficult, and Aizen's passive spiritual crush would mean even with kamui, the second Obito tries to touch Aizen on the same plane as him he will be damaged. Obito won't be easy for Aizen to put down either, but eventually Aizen will take it.

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Aizen could easily blitz him.

Asides from that, there isn’t much obito can do to put him down. Kamui’s too slow and none of his attacks would damage Aizen.

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What they said ^

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Aizen easily.

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Aizen.

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Aizen

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Aizen, but it's not a mismatch.

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#10 Gilateen  Online

Aizen wins mid-high diff

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@shirso: Yeah. I could see Obito beating regular base Aizen, but once Aizen absorbs the Hogyoku and becomes immortal I have a hard time seeing Obito winning, but he could possibly win via sealing.

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After looking over his feats from the war, this is indeed a very big stomp in Aizen’s favor.

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@shirso: base Aizen would be fairer, but if obito is allowed access to the Gedo Mazo, then it becomes unfair towards base Aizen.

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@ourmanuel said:

Aizen could easily blitz him.

Asides from that, there isn’t much obito can do to put him down. Kamui’s too slow and none of his attacks would damage Aizen.

10/10

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aizen 1 shots, even base aizen during FKT would murder stomp obito, that is the same aizen that blocked a fully powered Getsuga from Ichigo with 1 hand and even a direct hit to his chest only manage surface injuries.

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Obito clowns him with genjutsu.

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@sy8000 said:

Obito clowns him with genjutsu.

And then he realizes it was just one of Aizens illusions

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@sy8000 said:

Obito clowns him with genjutsu.

You mean that thing he never uses? Even the databook has him as a terrible, terrible genjutsu user. He scores a 1.5 out of 5. By comparison, Naruto is a 2. Tsunade is a 3.5.

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Damn, you know you're bad when Naruto has a higher score than you in something he's never used.

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@sy8000 said:

Obito clowns him with genjutsu.

You mean that thing he never uses? Even the databook has him as a terrible, terrible genjutsu user. He scores a 1.5 out of 5. By comparison, Naruto is a 2. Tsunade is a 3.5.

He trapped the Mizukage in genjutsu for years. People mistook Obito for Shisui his genjutsu was so good. Databook is BS if that's his ranking.

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#21  Edited By ourmanuel

@sy8000 said:

He trapped the Mizukage in genjutsu for years. People mistook Obito for Shisui his genjutsu was so good. Databook is BS if that's his ranking.

The mizukage’s thing really doesn’t add up with what we know about genjutsu, especially considering obito’s age at that time.

And who mistook him for Shisui?

But yeah, the databook’s rankings for different things are usually trash and don’t add up with feats.

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@Aristeaus said:
@sy8000 said:

Obito clowns him with genjutsu.

You mean that thing he never uses?

Obito has used Genjutsu on many occasion, such as controlling the Mizūkage (who was a perfect Jinchūriki, mind), Kurama (with his 3T, not even MS), The Bijū (Rinnegan and Sharingan combo), versus Konan, versus Kakashi and versus Danzo's ANBU.

Even the databook has him as a terrible, terrible genjutsu user. He scores a 1.5 out of 5. By comparison, Naruto is a 2. Tsunade is a 3.5.

You forget to mention those stats are from the time of his "death." Which would include before his Sharingan was even active, since he awakened it then "died."

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@sy8000 said:

He trapped the Mizukage in genjutsu for years. People mistook Obito for Shisui his genjutsu was so good. Databook is BS if that's his ranking.

The mizukage’s thing really doesn’t add up with what we know about genjutsu, especially considering obito’s age at that time.

Can you be more specific?

And who mistook him for Shisui?

The village itself had assumed something similar Shisui's genjutsu was being used on the Mizūkage. Ao, having faced Shisui and recognized his chakra, was the only real reason people found out.

But yeah, the databook’s rankings for different things are usually trash and don’t add up with feats.

Not necessarily, the above is intentionally misleading canonically.

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@mre:

Can you be more specific?

Genjutsu is supposed to require concentration to maintain, and for obito to maintain it for that long, especially on a jinchuriki with full control and at such a young age....

It seems more like plot to me than anything,

The village itself had assumed something similar Shisui's genjutsu was being used on the Mizūkage. Ao, having faced Shisui and recognized his chakra, was the only real reason people found out.

when exactly was this stated?

Not necessarily, the above is intentionally misleading canonically.

You've probably not seen some of the other ranking entries then. They really shouldn’t be used for scaling.

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#25  Edited By Undre

Obito thinks BM naruto is fast and had to use kumai to have a chance against naruto.

Base azien should be faster than BM naruto so. Aizen would blitzes befor he can procces anything. Similar to what he did to ichigo unless you think this obito is faster than ichigo

Obitos fire justu does absolutely nothing to aizen. Who tanked kido 96. Aizen lets obito get free shots and he still losess

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@ourmanuel said:

@mre:

Genjutsu is supposed to require concentration to maintain,

That, obviously, is not always the case.

and for obito to maintain it for that long, especially on a jinchuriki with full control and at such a young age....

Yes, it's very impressive and quite in line for the protégé of Madara Uchiha.

It seems more like plot to me than anything,

*Everything* is plot, it means nothing on its own. That said, this is not the only time he uses Genjutsu and maintains it for a while. He does so to Fū and Torune, as well.

when exactly was this stated?

During the Gokage Summit, when Danzo is being found out.

You've probably not seen some of the other ranking entries then.

I have, hence my correcting that information above.

They really shouldn’t be used for scaling.

Cite some examples, maybe I can help clarify some things for you.

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#27  Edited By FullMetalEmprah

Aizen should win, he's too much in this form for Obito.

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Aizen, mismatch

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@mre:

While I agree Obito's genjutsu skills are not trash, but actually high-tier, he didn't control the Bijuu through genjutsu. That was the six paths technique. He used chakra rods, in the same way Nagato control the Six Pains. Everything else is right though.

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Aizen high diff just cuz of Genjutsu and kamui....and if gedo mazo is allowed obito wins.

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@ultimatesage: lol dued for one the soul dragon is too dam slow. Hanzo reacted to it. And that shit cant just still aizens soul. He has astral defense. It works fine for fodder tho

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@azureus: He used the Sharingan to enter their mindscape and used the Rinnegan from there on out.

Son Goku notes Obito could enter into the same plane Naruto did, but he couldn't penetrate through to the connected plane the Bijū share.

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Aizen high diff just cuz of Genjutsu and kamui....and if gedo mazo is allowed obito wins.

That^^

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I swear if one more troll tags me.....I'mma delete their account.....smh

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#35  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Aizen should be too much for this form of Obito, but I'm not confident that Chrysalis Aizen can beat Juubito.

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obito wins.

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Aizen can counter most of obito's techniques;

- soul rip is not working on a shinigami for apparent reasons.

- kamui bfr is not working cuz aizen can travel through dimensions.

- Aizen survive other techniques (fire style, mouktun) due to immortality.

The only way obito wins is Genjutsu...

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Aizen with relative ease.

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Any Obito aside from Juubito doing anything to even base Aizen is a joke.

Mismatch.

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Obito wins low difficulty.

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@limitlesssigil: bruh your reply is screaming fanboy, Aizen can't even tag obito due to kamui phasing, obito could easily track aizens movements with sharingan and phase through everything aizen does.

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@shirso: yea so?? He can't go to kamui dimension cuz its obito's personal dimension if thats what you're tryna get at. Plus even if say obito takes Aizen to kamui dimension (not knowing Aizen can travel through dimensions) and Aizen became familiar with kamui dimension it still won't help Aizen win, why? Because in order to actually land a hit on obito one needs to be attacking a certain space from both dimensions to tag him, cuz if aizen is in kamui dimension that means obito has nothing to phase from in the real world meaning Aizen being in kamui dimension is useless. You catch my drift?

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Obito has used genjutsu plenty of times, he avoided using it against Naruto because A) He spent a large amount of his power controlling the bijuu and mazo and B) Naruto also became highly genjutsu resistant after he entered BM.

None of those conditions apply here, so genjutsu is a valid strat.

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@streak619: how in character is it at the beginning of a fight?

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@streak619: how in character is it at the beginning of a fight?

I wouldn't say he would use it right off the bat or something. But I see him using it in the 3rd or 4th move to quickly end the fight.

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#50  Edited By ourmanuel

@streak619: That’s if his phasing can come into effect before Aizen blitzes

And even then, I’m pretty sure Aizen reiatsu crush would still work