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Why wouldn't it?

And that's not the only way he could win.

Firelord can obviously be taken out with physical force (See Spider-Man)

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#52  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Why wouldn't it?

And that's not the only way he could win.

Firelord can obviously be taken out with physical force (See Spider-Man)"
I'm not saying Air Walker & Silver Surfer are Firelord but they both resisted Transmutation so I would assume they all could.
Physical Force? Firelord can augment his strength and durability and is probably the best fighter of the Heralds.
I'm not even going to address the Spider-Man thing..you know better.
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#53  Edited By King_Saturn
Oh Wow... that Firelord loss to Spider-Man was dumb as hell... Made no Sense At All...
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I'm looking at Firelord's bio and I found this...

Weaknesses: Firelord's major limitation is that his brain, still organic in perceptions and function, needs occasional sleep to resuscitate itself. A severe concussion to his body can cause temporary unconsciousness, but it would take radical molecular dispersal to kill him.

... I think that could be what gives Firestorm the win here.

And the Spider-Man thing... You used it in my Batman vs Spider-Man thread... But even still, the Hulk was able to stun the Silver Surfer.

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#55  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Yesteryear said:

And the Spider-Man thing... You used it in my Batman vs Spider-Man thread... But even still, the Hulk was able to stun the Silver Surfer.
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You have to be kidding with this sh#t.
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I am. I just didn't insert the LOL or JK.

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#57  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

I still don't think Firestorm wins either.

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I disagree, but even if Firelord does win, it's definitely not overkill.

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#59  Edited By geraldthesloth

firelord in a goodfight

there both equally awesome characters

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We shouldn't care about their powers. Firelord is one of the Universe best fighters out there.

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#61  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Tomorrowhour said:
 Firelord is one of the Universe best fighters out there."
Actually he isn't.
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#62  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
"If he's going to be a chump and just be intangible the whole time than nobody wins.He's not going to be able to hurt Firelord and while he's intangible..Firelord can't hit him and he can't hit back."
Even without the intangibility, Firestorm still has considerable superhuman reflexes. He was able to beat Kalibak.
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#63  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
"If he's going to be a chump and just be intangible the whole time than nobody wins.He's not going to be able to hurt Firelord and while he's intangible..Firelord can't hit him and he can't hit back."
Even without the intangibility, Firestorm still has considerable superhuman reflexes. He was able to beat Kalibak."
Kalibak is canon fodder.
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#64  Edited By Static Shock

So is Firelord.

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#65  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"So is Firelord."
No he's not..besides the loss to Spider-man which is obviously PIS...Firelord has a great track record.
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#66  Edited By Static Shock

OK. So, does Firestorm.

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#67  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"OK. So, does Firestorm."
But not Kalibak.
Anyway I don't see how Firestorm can win.
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#68  Edited By Static Shock

Why can't he win?

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#69  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"Why can't he win?"
Why can he?
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#70  Edited By Static Shock

I gave my reasons already. I asked you first.

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#71  Edited By SeSAW

Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted.

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#72  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
SeSAW said:
"Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted."
This sentence doesn't even make sense..what are you trying to say?
Static Shock said:
"I gave my reasons already. I asked you first."
Well unless Firelord just stands there and let's Firestorm beat him I don't see how Firestorm can..what is his edge.What can Firestorm do to him that he can't dodge,counter,or resist?
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#73  Edited By Static Shock
SeSAW said:
"Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted."
Firestorm used his powers to make a Kryptonite cage around him. They don't necessarily work on Superman himself. And the first Firestorm couldn't transmute organic objects.

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"Well unless Firelord just stands there and let's Firestorm beat him I don't see how Firestorm can..what is his edge.What can Firestorm do to him that he can't dodge,counter,or resist?"
Instant Transmutation. As I explained in another thread....
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#74  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"SeSAW said:
"Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted."
Firestorm used his powers to make a Kryptonite cage around him. They don't necessarily work on Superman himself. And the first Firestorm couldn't transmute organic objects.

Vance Astro
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"Well unless Firelord just stands there and let's Firestorm beat him I don't see how Firestorm can..what is his edge.What can Firestorm do to him that he can't dodge,counter,or resist?"
Instant Transmutation. As I explained in another thread....
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I said what can Firestorm do to Firelord that he can't dodge,counter,or RESIST?
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#75  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
"I said what can Firestorm do to Firelord that he can't dodge,counter,or RESIST?"
How do you know he can resist it? Don't say because other Heralds can.
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#76  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

WGAFA.

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#77  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
"WGAFA."
?
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#78  Edited By HalJordan1986x
Static Shock said:
"SeSAW said:
"Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted."
Firestorm used his powers to make a Kryptonite cage around him. They don't necessarily work on Superman himself. And the first Firestorm couldn't transmute organic objects.

Vance Astro
said:
"Well unless Firelord just stands there and let's Firestorm beat him I don't see how Firestorm can..what is his edge.What can Firestorm do to him that he can't dodge,counter,or resist?"
Instant Transmutation. As I explained in another thread....
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Dont bother

SesAW Is the dumbest prick on here
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#79  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
HalJordan1986x said:
"Static Shock said:
"SeSAW said:
"Firestorms powers have worked on Supes before, that is just DC fanboy BS that Supes energy can't be transmuted."
Firestorm used his powers to make a Kryptonite cage around him. They don't necessarily work on Superman himself. And the first Firestorm couldn't transmute organic objects.

Vance Astro
said:
"Well unless Firelord just stands there and let's Firestorm beat him I don't see how Firestorm can..what is his edge.What can Firestorm do to him that he can't dodge,counter,or resist?"
Instant Transmutation. As I explained in another thread....
"
Dont bother

SesAW Is the dumbest prick on here"
Sadly..he isn't.
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#80  Edited By geraldthesloth

That would be me

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#81  Edited By HalJordan1986x

Sorry but claiming Vision could beat Flash was the last straw

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#82  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
HalJordan1986x said:
"Sorry but claiming Vision could beat Flash was the last straw"
LMFAO.
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#83  Edited By Static Shock
HalJordan1986x said:
"Sorry but claiming Vision could beat Flash was the last straw"

WTF!? He also said that Doom could beat Wonder Woman.
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#84  Edited By Jersey Devil

I believe Firestorm is the victor of this epic battle.His transmutation abilities should be enough.I'm not sure you can transmute a Herald but I am aware that all Heralds don't have the same amount of power or the same exact powers.

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#85  Edited By Static Shock
Jersey Devil said:
"I believe Firestorm is the victor of this epic battle.His transmutation abilities should be enough.I'm not sure you can transmute a Herald but I am aware that all Heralds don't have the same amount of power or the same exact powers."

Agreed.
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#86  Edited By HalJordan1986x

yup

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#87  Edited By Hyperlight

@Jersey Devil: The thing about heralds is they were all given the same powers (roughly) they just 1. manifest there powers in different ways 2. have different levels of power. FIrelord is probably superior toFirestorm in every way except for the fact that he transmutes the elements more often. Firelord has this ability as well he just rarely uses it or isnt as adept in it. This would be a good fight. all depends if firlord can resist molecular dispersion/transmutation

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@static_shock: that was badly written, Firelord should have destroyed Spiderman

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@law1602: You’re twelve years late. No need to bump a thread just to respond to a years-old comment.

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@law1602: You’re twelve years late. No need to bump a thread just to respond to a years-old comment.

not part of the debate but crazy to see you're still here tho....

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Firelord.

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Firestorm wins.

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@law1602: You’re twelve years late. No need to bump a thread just to respond to a years-old comment.

Aren't you a moderator or something?

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@static_shock said:

@law1602: You’re twelve years late. No need to bump a thread just to respond to a years-old comment.

Aren't you a moderator or something?

Past-tense

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@manofmanynames2 said:
@static_shock said:

@law1602: You’re twelve years late. No need to bump a thread just to respond to a years-old comment.

Aren't you a moderator or something?

Past-tense

So their no longer a moderator anymore? I could of sworn the other day they had the Moderator tag.

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@manofmanynames2: I haven’t been a moderator for several years now. I think you have me confused with someone else.

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@ben2004: Yeah lol. I drift in and out of here from time to time.