Final Crisis Darkseid vs Soulfire Darkseid

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Final Crisis Darkseid

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Rules

  • No prep
  • On Earth
  • Standard equipment
  • Morals off
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Soulfire Darkseid.

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@jwwprod said:

Soulfire Darkseid.

Really? How?

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I think FC version is more powerful but I'm interested to see opinions.

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Uxas takes home the W

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@frozen All Darksied did during Final Crisis was sit down in his chair and claim all is Darkseid.

Couldn't even stop himself getting shot.

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@dondave said:

@frozen All Darksied did during Final Crisis was sit down in his chair and claim all is Darkseid.

Couldn't even stop himself getting shot.

The 50 Universes were falling apart because of him.

Yeah, well that Morrison's Bat God.

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@frozen Due to him destabilizing the foundation of the Multiverse.

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@dondave said:

@frozen Due to him destabilizing the foundation of the Multiverse.

Grant Morrison said in an interview that Darkseid's power was Multiversal in FC.

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@dondave said:

@frozen Due to him destabilizing the foundation of the Multiverse.

Grant Morrison said in an interview that Darkseid's power was Multiversal in FC.

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#18  Edited By Jmarshmallow

Soulfire Darkseid, dude beat the Source.

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@frozen said:

@dondave: @killemall: How is Soulfire more powerful? He didn't seem it IMO.

Well because one actually fought the source, the other did very less.

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@frozen Great and he's done nothing to show for it

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@frozen said:

@dondave said:

@frozen Due to him destabilizing the foundation of the Multiverse.

Grant Morrison said in an interview that Darkseid's power was Multiversal in FC.

Yes but how well can he apply that power in an actual fight? Superman beat this version of Darkseid by syncing his voice to a specific wave length and singing.

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@frozen said:

@dondave: @killemall: How is Soulfire more powerful? He didn't seem it IMO.

Well because one actually fought the source, the other did very less.

He did but was that not the retconned Source?

I had power ranking for Darkseid in this order:

  1. FC Darkseid
  2. GDS Darkseid
  3. Soulfire Darkseid

Though this could be off, I need to re-read GDS. The Source was previously described to be a higher power than Hal Jordan Spectre, who by the same token defeated Parallax, so technically it SHOULD have been Darkseid > Source > Hal Jordan Spectre > Parallax but I believe The Source in Death of The New Gods was weaker.

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Yeah we are not going to reach any sort of consensus for ranking and all, agree to disagree.

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Lol

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@killemall: I was asking you for your ranking, if you don't mind.

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Honestly....FC Darkseid may have had a telepathy feat or something along with the Omega Sanction, but not a single combat feat besides that unless that also includes his last fight with Orion (Which I did not see). All in all, Soul Fire Darkseid defeated the Source, punked Superman, fought Orion and only left due to his power being siphoned by Orion. He did manage to get bisected by Superman but didn't give a damn and just came back together...I cannot say the same for FC Darkseid (Even though he could exist in an astral form and only plot could kill him, he cannot do anything in that form anyway accept possess a body). Anyway, unless FC Darkseid manages to Sanction SF Darkseid, he will not win.

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Yeah...I doubt my view will add much to reaching a consensus but unfortunately mate I am gonna have to side with the majority here. Soulfire Darkseid has feats of taking on The Source, reforming from Superman's attack and one shotting him, fighting evenly with a clearly amped Orion and only left the fight because his energy got drained. Final Crisis Darkseid could win via BFR but that's the only feat he has to suggest he has a chance of winning.

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SF

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SF Darkseid.

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SF Darkseid is beyond the Antilife Equation .

When Darkseid wielded a portion of the ALE he managed to cut off the new gods from the Source itself and was stated to be able to crush the cosmos:

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Soulfire stomps. Wonder Woman was able to overload FC's power with the lasso.

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Darkseid

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Darkseid wins.

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I'm leaning towards Soulfire Darkseid.

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Ends in sex

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There are common misconceptions about Soulfire Darkseid. He is powerful and does scale to the Source but Final Crisis Darkseid has the Anti Life Equation and has shown > power than the Source. This Darkseid is the Shadow. He wins.