Ferus Olin vs. Asajj Ventress

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Obi-Wan Kenobi: "He was the most gifted apprentice, second only to Anakin. With so many gifts, he is a formidable opponent to the Empire."

The Last of the Jedi: The Desperate Mission

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Darth Tyranus: "She is a gifted assassin. You have my word. She will complete her mission to the letter."

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  • Any information concerning Ferus and Ventress can be found in their most complete blogs on this site, the latter of which I have made major contributions.
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Ventress massacres.

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Asajj wrecks.

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Ventress Slaughters

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Ventress destroys.

Hell, given the beings she scales over, she probably stomps

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@space_hitler: Granted, Ventress is evenly matched with General Grievous, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker in terms of lightsaber skills. But Ferus has fought Darth Vader thrice, and Sidious once considered replacing Vader with him.

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@darthwill3: That was newb Vader only months after his suit.Vader was continuously improving and growing in power throughout his career up to RotJ.

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@darthwill3: I know Olin pretty well. Ive studied this dude. He's outmatched in sabers and Ventress has much better TK and force powers.

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@space_hitler:The final duel between Ferus and Vader took place months after A New Hope. And Ferus' skills didn't appear to have diminished over almost two decades, despite Vader's assumptions.

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@undeadbantha: as I have. I’ve read his novels many times. Ferus 8/10. Him performing well against Vader and the inquisitor is enough. Asaij got worse as clone wars progressed.

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@noah_ouellette: Interesting. You're the first one to vote in favor of Ferus.

Let's not forget that Malorum was the first Grand Inquisitor, at least in the Legends sense.

Of course, I wouldn't say that Ventress "got worse." My studies show me that she was improving as a fighter and a Force user.

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@space_hitler: Granted, Ventress is evenly matched with General Grievous, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker in terms of lightsaber skills. But Ferus has fought Darth Vader thrice, and Sidious once considered replacing Vader with him.

copy that

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I'm going to need a lot more than that.

OK. Asajj massacres because she's better in every conceivable way. More well-trained, much more skilled, more powerful, faster, stronger, has a lot more hype to her name.

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Didn’t ferus hold his own against Vader?

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@richard96: No. Vader consistently stomped him. It was only when Ferus brought up Palme and Anakin that he contended via unbalancing him. Even then, again, consistently lost.

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Not to mention that was 18 BBY Vader, who is below Ventress as a duelist. Asajj stomps.

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@zapan871: Aren't you forgetting Vader and Ferus' final duel, which was after A New Hope?

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@darthwill3: Ah, that one. Don't know what to make of it.

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It was an easy win for Vader again.

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@zapan871: @darthwill3: Nothing really to make of it. This

@richard96: Vader consistently stomped him. It was only when Ferus brought up Palme and Anakin that he contended via unbalancing him. Even then, again, consistently lost.

Applies.

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I didn't know ferus, where can I find some informations on him?

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Ventress wins.

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Asajj slaps him.

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@in-sidiousvader: thxs guys

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@greysentinel365 said:

@richard96: No. Vader consistently stomped him. It was only when Ferus brought up Padme and Anakin that he contended via unbalancing him. Even then, again, consistently lost.

It's called Dun Möch. Psychological warfare. And don't forget: He and Anakin were arch rivals as Padawans.

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I'm going to need a lot more than that.

OK. Asajj massacres because she's better in every conceivable way. More well-trained, much more skilled, more powerful, faster, stronger, has a lot more hype to her name.

You forget that Ferus briefly studied under Darth Sidious himself. And he managed to hold off Vader, who held his own against eight Jedi shortly after his reconstruction.

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@darthwill3: she is just more aggressive

Who's to say that Ferus isn't equally aggressive? It's been hinted that he uses Form VII.

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@darthwill3: You forget that Ferus briefly studied under Darth Sidious himself.

That's nice. Did he learn anything of note?

And he managed to hold off Vader,

You mean got stomped, couldn't see Vader even move given the speed gap, barely blocked a saber strike due the strength/skill gap, and also only ever managed to contend upon using Dun Moch, something he can't use against Asajj since he's not familiar with her.

who held his own against eight Jedi shortly after his reconstruction.

And lost badly. Also worth noting Asajj could easily fend off a group of Jedi I'd peg as more formidable than the group 18 BBY Vader got creamed by.

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@wollfmyth209: If you pay close attention, he had learned to use his anger and hate. Though it nearly cost him his soul. Poor choice on his part to confront Vader in the Jedi Council chamber where he acknowledged his decision to leave the Order.

Plus, Vader had killed half of the Jedi on Kessel solo before the 501st arrived to finish the rest. Even disabled some of their weapons with the cortosis blade he took from Shadday. And a Sith Lord like him doesn't quit so easily.

What I'm trying to say is that Ferus' experiences with the Sith might give him an edge over Ventress, who's not as strong as Sidious or Vader.

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@darthwill3: If you pay close attention, he had learned to use his anger and hate. Though it nearly cost him his soul. Poor choice on his part to confront Vader in the Jedi Council chamber where he acknowledged his decision to leave the Order.

Ventress was taught that, as well. But on top of that she was taught a myriad of esoteric and useful Force powers. Ferus just learned to be angry. Huzzah for him, I guess.

Plus, Vader had killed half of the Jedi on Kessel solo before the 501st arrived to finish the rest. Even disabled some of their weapons with the cortosis blade he took from Shadday. And a Sith Lord like him doesn't quit so easily.

All well and good, but Vader was literally getting creamed by those Jedi, and he also destroyed Ferus. Olin's only chance was psychological warfare, which won't work on Ventress cause he doesn't know what buttons to push and even if he did, probably wouldn't push them to begin with.

What I'm trying to say is that Ferus' experiences with the Sith might give him an edge over Ventress, who's not as strong as Sidious or Vader.

Asajj faced a lot more Jedi than Ferus did Sith, and she also performed much better against people of Vader's calibre(note: Dooku, Anakin, Windu) than Ferus did.

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@wollfmyth209: Until we get a Versus video that stars Ferus Olin and points out his strengths and weaknesses, I'm going to have to assume this fight would be a close one.

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Its impossible for Ventress not to win, via both scaling and feats she is unquestionably superior.

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#42  Edited By WollfMyth209

@darthwill3: Why is your thought process entirely dependant on if someone makes a Versus Video or not? There's dozens of matchups on ComicVine that never got made into a VS Video and we still all discuss them.

You don't have to assume anything just cuz EvanNova or Jensaarai don't say something.

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@wollfmyth209: I'm just saying I will reserve judgment until I'm given the best answer/analysis.

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@darthwill3: Fair enough. Though I question if the YT brigade can give the best analysis, tbh. I'd prefer some of the more elite Viners do it.

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Viners > Youtubers

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Yeah, even the "weakest" Viners walk all over Jensaraai and Evannova.

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@dark-sith123: Are you the guy called "A Worshipper of Sheevism"?

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@vitisid:

Where? No one ever called me that.

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@dark-sith123: That's the name of someone on YT who often writes comments. I thought that was you lol

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@vitisid:

No, I've pretty much given up YT comment sections. Can have another crack at it though.