Fenris Wolf (MCU) vs Kong (2017)

Kong Mauls that Dog, When comes to fighting Kong was actually smart he could use enviroment surroundings for his advantage

Sure, but the problem is if her jaws are Hulk-sized, Kong may just be way too big for her to chew , since Kong's palm > helicopter in size. Kong also has a lot of mass to cut through for that scenario, and her teeth are, on a relative scale, pretty small. Given that it was one or two teeth that managed to pierce Hulk's calf (which gives us a rough size for the dimensions of the teeth in question) Kong would have to be stationary for a while for her to do any visible damage.

But isn't Kong too big to Fenris ? Ok i understand that Hulk was a chewing toy to wolf, but honestly Hulk do not look to me for guy who can take down Kong

Kong.

Kong wins Fenris would be an angry Ferret compared to Kong being a 6 foot tall man. Kong is far too intelligent to let Fenris kill him. Also he is much faster and Fenris has to move twice as much as normal to equal Kong barely moving because of the size difference.

What is this Kong beating MCU Hulk nonsense? Fenris rips his throat out.

A chopper's propeller slashed through Kong's skin (specifically, I believe it was his palm), I really can't see the point of view of anyone saying Fenris' teeth will have no effect, unless a propeller > Fenris.

Kong was young during Skull Island and should grow stronger and tougher to be able to hold his own even remotely against Godzilla, but as things stand, either Kong grabs Fenris and tosses him a few miles away, or the fight is prolonged and he gets carved up.

@morpheus_: Yeah, it'd pierce Kong's hand/leg for sure, but then what?

Kong, and convincingly. Fenris lunges at Kong for a bite, Kong grabs him and breaks his neck- or hammer fists him to death.

How much bigger is Fenris to Jackson’s Kong? Shouldn’t be TOO much bigger. That Kong fought off like 2-3 V-Rexes, which were said to be bigger than T-Rexes. My point is that all of which are in Fenris’ size realm. Heck, even if Fenris is a bit bigger, that Kong held his own (while protecting the chick and getting bitten) against 2-3. 2017 Kong is MUCH bigger. Like, MUCH bigger. So, why are we arguing if Fenris can beat him? It’s like an actual wolf vs an actual silverback gorilla. There’s just no chance.

@socajunkie: I don't think he can beat Hulk, but luckily for Kong, he would not be facing Hulk here.

Fenris's teeth should pierce Kong's skin but the size difference is just too much. Fenris draws blood from Kong's hand (maybe even takes a finger) but Kong snaps the tiny dog's back as a result

Kong is so much bigger I don’t see Fenris being able to get into the areas like the neck etc, while I see along able to do finish Fenris IMO.

Kong ends up with multiple mangled limbs and Fenris wins for the purposes of the thread.

Kong

nice ABC logic but literally no one in all 63 replies said this

The wolf simply can't inflict that much damage to Kong given the size difference, and should eventually lose.

Here we go again with size mattering the most. Kong is not durable enough to win this while Fenris can take his punches pretty well. Fenris was only bfr'd by Hulk but was certainly awake as he fell. Kong gets torn apart his size only helps him not get one-shotted. Hulk has better striking g than Kong based on how he rocked a larger Surtur while the Skull crawler was tanking Kong's punches. Kong even used weapons to enhance his striking.

That dog is leagues above kong, hela recruited him for a reason

Did Fenris learn to fly? How is he going to get to any vitals? He gets snatched up and torn apart.

Kong wins, fenris is not gonna do much damage considering how big kong is, and kong is a smart fighter. Kong will just hold his tail slap fenris around and rip open her jaw or just breaks its neck. Lastly dogs are not good fighters when on their backs, and kong will definately take it there.

Fenris was pretty dam durable but Kong is so dam big.

An normal silverback gorilla, they have jaws primarily adapted to chew strong hard plants like bamboo, which have given them incredibly strong jaw and neck muscles capable of punching a 1300 psi bite.

Now imagine Kong Gorilla 2017 the force he would generate from a bite, I reckon he could probably pierces Fenris. His strength would be incredible as well.

Here is a photo comparrison from fist Kong movie to 2017 in size difference.

Now here is a video of the little Kong throwing boulders round easily.

This huge Kong strength would be on another level. To say Fenris chews him up is a throw away statement. I mean Kong bascially could throw fenris 100's of meters away. He could pick up boulders bigger then what Kurse through at Thor and smash them on Fenris's head from serious height.

A wolf on its own isn't that much of a powerful creature in the wild, its range of attack is narrow. This Kong has so many options on its side. Fenris mouth is very small so attacks would be tiny to this Kong.

I think Kong would just do what hulk did to Loki in Avengers 1

Ridiculous Kong ragdull him

Kong throws fenris out of the island.

Bump

Kong throws him.

Kong steps on Fenris... Mismatch.

^^^^^This. Only this.

Fenris is literally like a large chihuahua to Kong and doesn’t have its strength packed into a versatile, human frame. Mismatch kong stomps.

Kong wins via bfr or Fenris kills him

Kong. Just breaks his jaw

Meh...Kong due to the fact that he's gonna give Godzilla a good fight. Vague, I know but after Kong vs. Godzilla comes out, this will surely become a spite thread.

This fight is basically like a fully grown man fighting a really fierce chihuahua.

Sure, Fenris packs a mean bite that can pierce Kong, it's way larger and stronger than Fenris. Kong stomps quite hard.

Fenris stomps.

This is not like a giant man Vs a small dog, but a giant man Vs krypto. Kong has size and maneuverability but fenris has every other advantage. Fenris easily withstood hits from hulk, only the last one hurt him. Asgardian high caliber bullets did nothing to him. Fenris and hulk broke a portion of the bifrost bridge. Fenris can easily knock Kong down.

Kong has super strength because he is big, while fenris has super strength for his size.

Hulk mountain me shot a creature around Hulk size but was having trouble putting down Fenris. By scaling I can see Fenris taking this, but Kong still probably has a chance due to the sheer size difference, and he is pretty strong himself.

Kong ragdolls Fenris

Kid Kong probably loses in a good fight, adult Kong is featless, but should be solidly above Fenris (may still lose to Hulk due to Hulk's jumping, meaning Hulk may pull an Ant-Man on Kong). But Fenris is not as mobile as Hulk.

If Kong is suppose to fight Godzilla how would he not win this?

@rustlingjimmy: "supposed to fight Godzilla " is not a feat.

Kong stomps literally.

What the-

Kong stomps hard. He has a MASSIVE size advantage. He could literally just grab Fenris and start slamming it into the ground, I don’t see how this is debatable.

Kong is too big but Godzilla would Stomp both

Hulk vs Kong is a mismatch in Hulk's favour, Fenris was at least on par with him (although more likely better). Not rocket science.

@buildhare: Just because Blastoise can beat Onyx and Pikachu can beat Blastoise, it doesn't mean Pikachu can beat Onyx. They have different advantages and disadvantages. So Hulk and Fenris having a good fight doesn't confer to this matchup. Hulk is bipedal and fully mobile thru his torso, whereas if kong just picks up Fenris (for instance by his neck or hind legs), Fenris can't maneuver into a position to use his jaws or claws. There is nothing stopping kong from grabbing him by his hind legs and ragdolling him like Hulk did to Loki. It doesn't matter that Fenris is significantly more durable if he is unable to respond to being grabbed.

Hulk would wreck Kong because he can still leap and land Kong+ strength blows to his torso, face, etc. But Fenris can't get above the lower extremities unless he brings down Kong. And to do so, he'd have to sink his teeth into Kong which then traps him since Kong can then just pick him up (a strategy that wouldn't work with the Hulk)

I agree that Fenris physically out-stats Kong but the mechanics of the fight are what come into play here and negate Fenris's advantage

@apex_pretador: But Krypto can fly, which allows him to not just get picked up by the scruff of his neck. Doing this to Fenris takes away all his maneuverability. He can't use his jaws or claws. This entirely negates his physical advantage

Also, Asgardian bullets and the bifrost can't really be scaled in the MCU. MCU asgardians seem to be susceptible to even human bullets and the bifrost collapsed under just their weight too, so its durability isn't directly correlated to its comic counterpart

Kong. 100 meters is much larger.

Let them hype!

@apex_pretador: We're going to have to agree to disagree that Fenris can get out of Kong's grip by violently shaking. Grabbing a quadrupedal animal by the scruff of the neck and lifting them off the ground is like taking a fish out of water. I don't see thrashing about being able to free him since it doesn't actually do anything to the skin in Kong's hand. As for the gun, I see what you're saying, but I would still say we can't make assumptions about it. It has 0 feats. It was used on Fenris and didn't work and was used on literally nothing else. We know nothing about where it came from, what it's packing, etc. but mainly it's featless. The bifrost, I forgot about Thor 1 but still went back to Ragnarok just now and it very clearly cracks just when Fenris lands on it on his back as well. I'd say the bifrost is inconsistent here. And it is certainly cracked when Hulk suplexes Fenris. I'm saying MCU asgardians being susceptible because of what "Des" and "Troy" did to Hela's warriors. They weren't just pierced but torn apart by human guns.

As for the strength one, I agree that Fenris is stronger but Kong's strength being size proportional still gives him pretty huge raw strength and he has pretty solid, hulk level feats. For Kong, we know he isn't as durable but he has a lot more fights and feats while Fenris only has 1 fight to go off of. And in that fight Fenris got tossed by Hulk multiple times. Because as long as the opponent can lift Fenris's weight and get Fenris off the ground, Fenris can't stop getting tossed. Super strength won't keep Fenris grounded. Kong is significantly larger than Hulk and could just pick up and repeatedly slam Fenris. Fenris hasn't faced anyone so significantly larger before and based off the fight with Hulk and being able to be manhandled there, I'd say Kong will take this. As long as his weight can be lifted, he is gonna get tossed, suplexed, slammed, etc. We may just see this playing out differently but I can't logically see how fenris will win here

P.S. I appreciate your debate style. Thanks for addressing point by point and being civil. That's always lacking on the forums.

Kong accidentally kills the dog by jumping on him.