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TOAA is omnipotent. He cannot lose TOAA stomps. A better matchup would be featherine vs eternity.

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TOAA stomps

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Featherine stomps. Lol at Eternity presenting a challenge.

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Nice try abstract folks

But none of your battles will came close to the greatest shitstorm in the history of the internet Superman vs Goku

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Featherine stomps. Lol at Eternity presenting a challenge.

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#7  Edited By etriel
@onlyoneempereor said:
@soratoumiga said:

Featherine stomps. Lol at Eternity presenting a challenge.

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TOAA is omnipotent. He cannot lose TOAA stomps. A better matchup would be featherine vs eternity.

No he doesn't. And anyone arguing that TOAA stands a chance against Featherine needs to get their facts checked. It has nothing to do with Outerversal,

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@etriel: Well, how could Featherine defeat another omnipotent? She has a weakness at her memory device. Omnipotents has no weaknesses

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@etriel: Well, how could Featherine defeat another omnipotent? She has a weakness at her memory device. Omnipotents has no weaknesses

Neither characters are Omnipotent.

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@etriel: What? Tier 0 characters are omnipotent. Marvel has TOAA as omnipotent.

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#11  Edited By etriel

@astrologist said:

@etriel: What? Tier 0 characters are omnipotent. Marvel has TOAA as omnipotent.

Tier 0 is not Omnipotent, it just means High-Outerversal. VSBattles tiering is capless, there is no end, Tier 0 is semi-relative and is purely based on scaling to finite/non-Omnipotent characters and in that sense, there can be no Omnipotent based on their tiering system.

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@astrologist: Dude, Vs battle even said that "omnipotence" dosen't suit well with their tiering system lmao:

Tier 0: Boundless

High Outerverse level

Characters that far exceed the requirements for Tier 1-A. Such characters will usually stand hierarchically above everything, including existence and nonexistence, possibility, causality, dualism, the concepts of life and death, etcetera.

Take note that being infinitely superior to a regular 1-A character does not automatically make another character qualify for a Tier 0 rating. The ones that do qualify should be so much higher than baseline 1-A characters that it can not be estimated or comprehended from their perspectives. That is, to even be considered for Tier 0, a character must at the very least transcend baseline 1-A characters in the same manner that they exceed ones who are bound by dimensions.

It is also important to note that such characters are not omnipotent, as such a concept isn't well suited for our tiering system (See the Omnipotence page for further explanations). High outerversal characters, although immeasurably powerful, can display minor weaknesses and limitations, and be rivaled or even surpassed by other beings within their respective verses.

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Anyways, Featherine stahmps.

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Featherine slaps.

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#15  Edited By Wot_m8

Featherine slaps hard. TOAA is not Omnipotent. It got retconned.

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TOAA is omnipotent in his own verse. He shouldn't be able to use his omnipotence against charcters from other verse.

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#17  Edited By etriel

Anyway, Featherine is hardly Omnipotent. She is an entity of Linear Power, meaning that she is scalable to Cosmology. And she can only manipulate Concepts linearly, meaning she only manipulates concepts that function at least infinitely beneath her (and even there, she 50% fails.)

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@etriel: so Featherine only has Aristotelian Concept manipulation?

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Current trash the one below all gets sneezed out of existence.

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TOAA gets bitchslapped.

TOAA is omnipotent in the Marvel multiverse , not outside of it. That was , until now. After the recent releases , he's no longer omnipotent in his own creations too. And even if we're talking about Old TOAA , saying he is omnipotent would be like saying entities like Law of Identity and Perpetua are omnipotent because they can control their creations fully. Lol.

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#21  Edited By etriel

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@etriel: so Featherine only has Aristotelian Concept manipulation?

Yes. There is a difference between "feeling" like you transcend concepts, as opposed to someone who is actually immune to all levels of that concept/outcome regardless as well as the progenitor absolute "form" of that concept.

Featherine is somewhat no different from Beyonder, they both "feel" like they transcend concepts, but it is only based on Cosmology Power. And these concepts they transcend are imperfect, construct bound and are measurable by linear power.

In DC, Michael and Lucifer wielded the power to only somewhat resist the Endless/Platonic Concepts imperfectly. While Lucifer can annihilate Dream's and Destiny's influence over his creation, his will was not impenetrable enough to conceptually resist Death of the Endless's pervasion in his territory.

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Featherine.

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TOAA is omnipotent. Featherine isn't. The Creator is the god with a capital G in that verse. He might have been a better match-up but omnipotence battles are kinda silly.

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I am on the side of the pond that considers TOAA to have two representations over the course of Marvel History. One, total dominance over concepts and physicality of his creation. Two, being limited by physics and being unable to perform complex physics detailing without his Regulator technology.

Featherine can't touch the classic view of TOAA, prior to recent Marvel eras. Featherine would, based on feats, destroy TOAA currently in late 2019.

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Poor retconned sob

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#28  Edited By etriel

When TOAA was Omnipotent, he/she/it embodied an Omnipotent Sized Dimension, and the finite-dimensions he transcended were Infinitely geometries, scaling to an expanding Hypertime.

But now he doesn't so he sucks and dies.

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I guess you are referring to the starlin Above All Others? Well if thats is his intention for it to represent TOAA, the literal creator God then according to marvel its the SAME character by Definition, as there is ONLY ONE across ALL multiverses

Marvel recently released the history of the marvel universe, if anything is mentioned about the 'old' Toaa then its still relevant to current events

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#30  Edited By FiendishMind

Starlin's recent works are of such nebulous canonicity at this point, with him increasingly ignoring prime continuity events and other writers continued ignoring of his changes.

Indeed Starlin or the editor were so careful and thorough to make sure that The-One-Above-All "name" itself was never actually used in these works, i'm starting to wonder why people were so certain that the Above-All-Others was ever meant to represent TOAA for the main continuity at all?

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Is Starlin the only person who made TOAA the fodder he is now? If so then why are we only focusing on his version?

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@fiendishmind: because warlock asks if the toaa was in fact the tribunals master an the master of all realities an the tribunal said yes to both thats who its supposed to be toaa why you think most give starlin crap for it

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#33  Edited By Y3kthunder

@takenstew22: yes

an because everyone wants to see everyone lose doesnt matter who. hell you have man of miricales threads when he is stated be omnipotent presence threads monitor mind threads its so people can nit pit at anothers omnipotent an say ha my character beats yours they also probably use it cause its the most recent version that a character should be able to compete with

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#34  Edited By FiendishMind
@y3kthunder said:

@fiendishmind: because warlock asks if the toaa was in fact the tribunals master an the master of all realities an the tribunal said yes to both thats who its supposed to be toaa why you think most give starlin crap for it

Starting with Infinity Revelation, AFAIK, no other writers have really been acknowledging the events and changes from any of Starlin's recent runs and for this last trilogy, Starlin made very little effort (and in some cases none) to align his work with the main continuity. This could be some kind of editorial "wall-off" or it could be Starlin's own choice but either way it makes me question the notion that his portrayals or any potential changes he's made, specifically with regards to the "Above-All-Others", do now or were ever meant to represent a "retcon" or lasting shift of any kind to the TOAA concept.

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@fiendishmind: oh no I agree with you ive seen no other arcs mentioning his work so it is likely that other authors will ignore it an will probably stick with toaa being just that only problem is when will we find out? Cause honestly toaa is almost never mentioned or shown

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#36  Edited By LordNegron

The new toaa loses but old one either wins or stalemates tbh

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Featherine solos fiction

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The new toaa loses but old one either wins or stalemates tbh

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TOAA is omnipotent in Marvel as he's the writer. He would have no dominion elsewhere. The current "Above All Others" was retconned to make the story interesting. So technically, Featherine should win if it's not in the Marvel multiverse.

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I am on the side of the pond that considers TOAA to have two representations over the course of Marvel History. One, total dominance over concepts and physicality of his creation. Two, being limited by physics and being unable to perform complex physics detailing without his Regulator technology.

Featherine can't touch the classic view of TOAA, prior to recent Marvel eras. Featherine would, based on feats, destroy TOAA currently in late 2019.

wow Michael finally has a point, yes.

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There’s many Toaa

collective of writers, man that met spiderman, celestial one above all, above all others, etc.

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#42  Edited By Mladen27

Featherine Solo's the whole Marvel Cosmology. I mean cmon Umineko has a way larger cosmology than Marvel.

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#43  Edited By ManOfManyNames2

Featherine should be comparable to PR Beyonder or EGD, but she isn't beating TOAA.

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@kitsunw said:

@manofmanynames2: TOAA not omnipotent featherine (True Form) stronger than TOAA

1. Infinity Conflict isn't canon 2. That isn't TOAA.

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1. Infinity Conflict isn't canon 2. That isn't TOAA.

Evidence?

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Natsu speed blitz

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Featherine blinks Marvel.

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too all the featherine people, Your actually wrong to believe. TOAA is Omnipotent. Featherine ain't and i know she's immortal but TOAA can negate that shit. He can Manipulate Concepts, Laws, Matter and etc and can Negate all of Featherine's Powers and abilties. what's the point of how she can beat someone that can negate Immortality it's self? and since that isn't the case. TOAA wins hands down.

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@xxnoobslayer900: That's cool and all, but what's preventing Feather from rewriting him out of existence ?