Featherine Augustus Aurora and Elder God Demonbane VS Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos

The Presence gave Lucifer and Michael a power as great as their own. so this whole "omnipotent close argument" easily collapses.

But the Presence is not Omnipotent so

Michael or Lucifer solos invidually.

theres no proof of DC having infinite R>F layers.So Featherine or even Beatrice can win

"But the Presence is not Omnipotent so"

Who cares? lmao

Lucifer scales his power from Source, Source is where all concepts do not exist and dissolve in unity. no hax based on Featherine's concepts will do a shit to Lucifer.

@tagsorwhatever

"That which is eternal, that which is the all and beyond the all."

LMAO

@tagsorwhatever

Lucifer without his LightBringer powers can enter the void without being erased unlike the Spectre that was erased. LMAO

You know that Lucifer without power erased the Man of Silk, a being from another previous creation that was not spat out by the hands of God. (The presence)

you will surely say is "FODDER"

Lucifer without power literally imposed his will on the void

Proof?

Lucifer was watching creations go up and down

So?

Slik Man erased those creations just by appearing

Proof?

and did not sell his 7 different layers of death.

Featless layers of death.

Depowered Lucifer made the basanos his bitch.

Anyone would have.

I escape from the plan of the Presence.

So?

LMFAO

The creations try to fill the void and Silk Man destroys them with his presence.

Nothing implies or suggests that Silk Man destroys anything with his presence. In fact, the statements "survivor", "cheated death of all things", "enter creations again and again and live" imply that he has nothing to do with their destructions.

Silk Man says that to be in the void you need a certain power.

So? Normally yes, because normal humans can't just leave infinite creations on their own. But Silk Man doesn't know that Lucifer left his creation via the Presence's portal. So this statement has very little value.

Depowered Lucifer escape from Presence Plan

Lucifer began escaping his function back when he was at full power. Escaping the plan has nothing to do with power level.

It is said that if he imposed his will in the void or if he became it.

Bullshit. Lucifer can't impose his will upon anything since he gave his infinite will to Mazikeen. The narration just attempts to describe what happens to Lucifer because he was out of sight. "Impose" means fly/move into the void here. And we know for sure that he didn't become the void and it makes no sense for him to. He merely disappeared. Again, nothing to do with power level.

He only gave his fire powers to Mazikeen. Lucifer's will is intrinsic to him.

To understand the Void requires a will beyond imagining.

Mortal Lucifer continues to have Infinite Will by being able to move and understand the Void.

Mortal Lucifer > Silk Man a survivor of his own creation and capable of escaping Death and existing in a void And immortal Eldritch who is not really alive.

He only gave his fire powers to Mazikeen. Lucifer's will is intrinsic to him.

Will and fire are not separate, they are what make him Lightbringer in the first place. Lucifer's will is God's will, not his. Saying otherwise is like saying that Michael's power is his own, not the Presence's. Lucifer gave all of his powers to Mazikeen.

To understand the Void requires a will beyond imagining.

Nothing to do with power. It has to do with will. It was literally stated that Lucifer couldn't understand the void because he is no longer the Lightbringer.

Mortal Lucifer continues to have Infinite Will by being able to move and understand the Void.

Baseless claims.

Mortal Lucifer > Silk Man a survivor of his own creation and capable of escaping Death and existing in a void And immortal Eldritch who is not really alive.

More baseless claims.

Literal could understand and move through the void without his powers. she even traveled between multiverses.

Let's go by the comics and not your headcanon. It was literally stated that Lucifer could not understand it initially because he lacked the will, he only did afterwards because he has trained his eyes to do so.

Mortal Lucifer applauded Slik Man, a guy who feeds on creations.

Mortal Lucifer left DC.

What is either of this supposed to prove?

Let's say it was like that, what is relevant about it?

You were the one who brought it up. I should be asking why you are bringing up stuff unrelated to power.

it existed in an impossible place where even the Spectre was erased. the void in vertigo is beyond the Source Wall, is the same.

It's not the same as I already proved. Vertigo void doesn't erase anything. Otherwise, why aren't you claiming that a random demon that could effortlessly exist in the void and who got killed by a horse falling on her is >>> Spectre? Oh, wait, maybe because you never read the volume?

Mortal Lucifer > Void

Mortal Lucifer > Destiny

Mortal Lucifer > Basanos

@deltavary: why did you delete everything

He got probably banned and every post was deleted. It's the 20th (and above) time that this happens. Been this way for months