@kaladar007:
"Iron Man round 2" was literally just an elbow turn. Wow, so exhausting. We see that after figting the trio that Thanos only has a few scratches on his face but is otherwise not tired and talking calmly still. So yeah, he isn't all that worn down I'm afraid unless you want to argue that his stamina is sub-human.
※Iron man r2 also happened before Carol and is just one of the five. She fought an overworked Thanos. She didn't fight a Thanos fresh in combat. She fought after others had their go at him.
For me I would take into consideration the fact that Faora hits harder Thanos. She can statue Capt. America whose speed troubled Thanos. She has better combat speed and reflexes and she is just as durable as Thanos. She leaps higher and appear more agile etc. I would give them a tie.
Faora does not hit harder than Thanos, get over it.
※I don't see Spiderman, Captain America, Wanda, Mantis, Drax and Quill tanking a punch that hurt superman. Many of the people who no sold Thanos punches don't have durability feat of humans like 50 cents.
Cap gets Thor's stats, that's the whole point of the Mjolnir enchantment.
※He only picked up Mjolnir. He did not acquire any of Thor's physicals and their race and performance against Thanos proves this. Even though Thor had all the advantage.
Hulk and Abomination have subsomic reflexes and feats but Thanos scales above them.
※That is the thing about reaction. Even slow human can have subsomic reflexes. They can block bullets and dodge same which for e.g moves faster than the 600mph RPG Abomination reacted to.
※Thanos did not fight Abom. but You can literally see the hulk being surpassed by human M'baku in the race.
※Not to mention the fact that Captain America who is faster than Thanos is a little bit faster than Usain Bolt who is 28mph. It has been calculated that Capt. in the pursuit of BP and Bucky was arround 30 mph at best before boarding the vehicle.
Faora is faster but she ain't dodging him indefinitely.
※He may never get the opportunity to tag her and even before he does so he would received a lot of overwhelming hits.
So why mention Ronan to begin with like it means something?
※Because fighting a young Ronan would have more credible than apprehending retired, injured, limping, farmer Thanos with help
※Also because it would have been more credible than throwing 3 punches at an overworked Thanos. Which is underwhelming compared to the performance of Steve Rogers.
※All she has is apprehending an injured and retired Thanos with help.
Not even, she has far better durability feat and strength feats in just her solo movie than Faora
※Already addressed this.
※Additionally, even feats on objects in the MCU don't count in combat. Like how Thanos destroyed Hulk who can lift part of the Avengers building on an arm even though he struggles to lift Hulk who weighs 700kg max.
※Like how that same Thanos destroyed Thor who had the Ring feat etc etc
As if Faora has anything to her name to warrant a name praise.
※Fighting MOS superman.Enough said.
Carol overwhelmed Thanos before he used the power stone, that much is evident in-film whereas
※She struggled to take gauntlet from overworked Thanos. For a long time she struggled with an arm of Thanos and he headbutted her to little effect. He got angry broke free, took out a power stone, held it(read:which became a feat for Thanos as it was for Ronan) and one-shotted her.
※Thanos did not use it on her like he did Thor's head. He did not project it like he did to Drax, Mantis et all. He didn't use the stone in the sense of it. Holding it in the hand and punching her would have been no different if he left it in the gauntlet and punched her.
Thanos overcame Cap by his own abilities.
※Sure but Thanos employed more effort, anger, desperation, intention to kill etc in fighting worthy Captain America than Carol.
※Blame the nonsense on the MCU. Every nonsense I have uttered is a fact on record in the MCU. Instead of blaming them you chose to provide headcanon excuses e.g Tha-Tha-Thanos showed restraints when he hit them(Wanda and Co.) that's why they tanked his punches and lots more
I could use that same argument to say Superman is fodder because Batman survived punches and hits from him.
※Yes you can but it won't give you the inner peace you need as Batman never took a punch from Superman out of the Mech suit. Even a punch from weakened supes destroyed his helmet.
※It's a different case where everyone took a punch from Thanos armor or not. Superhuman durability or human durability.
It's restraint, simple as that.
※Lol.
Thanos breaks Vision's vibranium alloy with his fingers
※False. Thanos rewind time back to the exact moment before Vision's head and body was shattered by Wanda.
※Secondly, Vision did not make it to vibranium moments before, during and after his stab by Corvus. He literally stated onscreen that it affected his phasing. Thanos could not have shattered vibranium. Even afterwards Vision was stabbed twice again by Corvus Glaive.
※The fact that Thanos employed more effort and grunts into punching Cap's skull with his fist to no effect than destroying Vision's skull with his fingers is proof that Vision Skull was not Vibranium.
※The fact that even with the stronger Uru Sword, show of temper, use of aggressive force he did not destroy Capt's vibranium shield(confirmed vibranium) on the first three strikes is proof he could not have easily shoved his fingers into a vibranium skull.
※Thirdly, Vision head and stone had received piercing pressures from Corvus Glaive atleast twice before Thanos.
■Thanos did not break Vibranium with his fingers 😊
but you honestly think a full-powered punch wouldn't kill Wanda?
※that is what is shown onscreen not just just for Wanda but for Capt. et all.
Are you high?
※Delusion isn't your portion but that is what was shown onscreen and in gif I provided:
Superman literally gets stabbed by the Batman vs Superman climax, what more do you want?
※Superman must have been weakened by Kryptonite when this happened or was stabbed with one.
※Secondly, that one is pierced does not amount to a destruction of their body. If you think so then:
•Thanos body was destroyed when Tony Stark cut his skin and got a drop of blood.
•Eternal Flame Surtur's body was destroyed when Hela speared him.
•Hela's body was destroyed when the Asgardian Soldier stabbed her from the back.
•Hulk's body was destroyed when the Hulk dogs bit him.
•Thor's body was destroyed when Loki stabbed him with a finger sized dagger etc
※You can be indestructible and still be pierced e.g the Originals. Indestructibility means you can't destroy the body.
No, you just can't seem to understand that Kryptonians aren't indestructible even though movies, novels, and Snyder himself has demonstrated otherwise.
※It is all over the net that Superman is indestructible. Wikipedia says he is invulnerable and has an impervious skin.
※Your concept of indestructibility is faulty as already addressed. That one is pierced does not amount to the destruction of their body.
It's pure wank
※The fact that it's common knowledge does not make it wank.
and I am done addressing this point. This will be the last time I do so.
※Cheers
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