Faora and Nam-Ek (DCEU) vs Spider-Man and Black Panther

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Faora and Nam-Ek

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Spider-Man and Black Panther

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Rules

- In character

- Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death

- Standard gear and abilities

- Fight takes place at an unpopulated city setting at night

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Lol BP and Spider-Man stomp.

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This should be a mismatch but in Comic Vine Spider-Man solostomp.

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The street levelers get splattered by a train thrown at them

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Kryptonians.

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Black Panther instantly gets his neck snapped, and Spider-Man will go down eventually.

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616 Duo

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hmm

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Peter can take either

I guess it just depends if Tchalla can survive long enough

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Peter ain't doing jack.

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We're doing this again?

How in the world do the 616 team win

The Kryptoian run right through the street levers with no problem

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The kryptonians take this, easy-mid difficulty

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#23 Amendment50  Online

@allstarsuperman said:

The street levelers get splattered by a train thrown at them

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#24  Edited By death4bunnies

These so called street levelers would take that train better than Clark did.

616 Stomp, the kryptonans are mid level fodder.

Hell I’d put a 616 doombot against this duo anyday.

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Team 1

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Have BP and SM gotten upgrades that i’m unaware of?

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Kryptonians stomp unless I’m missing something.

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Peter can take either

I guess it just depends if Tchalla can survive long enough

Lol wut?

kryptonians are at least multi thousand ton strength level>>>>>>Spider man

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#31  Edited By kalkent

These so called street levelers would take that train better than Clark did.

616 Stomp, the kryptonans are mid level fodder.

Hell I’d put a 616 doombot against this duo anyday.

I am not a spider-man expert, but I am pretty sure that train throw from namek would kill him. @jashro44 how would spider-man fare getting hit by a train like that?

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Does Panther have prep?

Faora and Nam-Ek would be decent mid-tiers in Earth-616, so I doubt two street levellers are gonna do anything.

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@kalkent:

I’m am away from my computer at the moment, (so I’m sorry for the shot formatting) however 616 Spider-Man catching cars in well within his consistent strength/durability range.

This is a armored vehicle Peter catches.

https://m.imgur.com/m45hU0F

This is also a armored vehicle that Peter let’s crush around his body, while staying on his feet.

https://i.imgur.com/4UrEkj8.jpg

He has a bunch of others that would show consistency.

The train would probably knock Spider-Man on his ass, hurt a bit; but home boy is getting back up.

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@kalkent:

I’m am away from my computer at the moment, (so I’m sorry for the shot formatting) however 616 Spider-Man catching cars in well within his consistent strength/durability range.

This is a armored vehicle Peter catches.

https://m.imgur.com/m45hU0F

This is also a armored vehicle that Peter let’s crush around his body, while staying on his feet.

https://i.imgur.com/4UrEkj8.jpg

He has a bunch of others that would show consistency.

The train would probably knock Spider-Man on his ass, hurt a bit; but home boy is getting back up.

Cars are nothing compared to trains. This train was also thrown by a multi-thousand tonner like a ping-pong ball. I don't see spider-man surviving getting a train thrown on him by someone that strong.

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@kalkent:

I’m am away from my computer at the moment, (so I’m sorry for the shot formatting) however 616 Spider-Man catching cars in well within his consistent strength/durability range.

This is a armored vehicle Peter catches.

https://m.imgur.com/m45hU0F

This is also a armored vehicle that Peter let’s crush around his body, while staying on his feet.

https://i.imgur.com/4UrEkj8.jpg

He has a bunch of others that would show consistency.

The train would probably knock Spider-Man on his ass, hurt a bit; but home boy is getting back up.

How is that good enough to think he'd beat either of the Kryptonians?

Nam threw a 100+ ton train a quarter mile away with seemingly not much effort, Hellfire missiles and 30mm bullets, two things that would destroy the armored vehicle Peter caught didn't get past their armor and we see Faora is strong enough to throw Clark through buildings and into a bank vault, denting it. She also bent metal strong enough withstand an orbital entry crash.

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@batman242 said:
@death4bunnies said:

@kalkent:

I’m am away from my computer at the moment, (so I’m sorry for the shot formatting) however 616 Spider-Man catching cars in well within his consistent strength/durability range.

This is a armored vehicle Peter catches.

https://m.imgur.com/m45hU0F

This is also a armored vehicle that Peter let’s crush around his body, while staying on his feet.

https://i.imgur.com/4UrEkj8.jpg

He has a bunch of others that would show consistency.

The train would probably knock Spider-Man on his ass, hurt a bit; but home boy is getting back up.

How is that good enough to think he'd beat either of the Kryptonians?

Nam threw a 100+ ton train a quarter mile away with seemingly not much effort, Hellfire missiles and 30mm bullets, two things that would destroy the armored vehicle Peter caught didn't get past their armor and we see Faora is strong enough to throw Clark through buildings and into a bank vault, denting it. She also bent metal strong enough withstand an orbital entry crash.

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That was 100+ tons? Do traincars actually weigh that much? And why would that specific throw be a bother to Peter with his spider-sense? Though I could see some viability if it were in close-distance.

EDIT: Never mind, did some searching.

OT: I dunno if this Time Runs Out gloves extensions count as standard. But they were auto-activated, which is why I even bothered. That, and because they make BP quite powerful in this fight.

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@rajjar: I wasn't debating whether he can dodge it or not, I was debating that a train thrown by namek at spiderman would kill him if it connected.

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@rajjar said:
@batman242 said:
@death4bunnies said:

@kalkent:

I’m am away from my computer at the moment, (so I’m sorry for the shot formatting) however 616 Spider-Man catching cars in well within his consistent strength/durability range.

This is a armored vehicle Peter catches.

https://m.imgur.com/m45hU0F

This is also a armored vehicle that Peter let’s crush around his body, while staying on his feet.

https://i.imgur.com/4UrEkj8.jpg

He has a bunch of others that would show consistency.

The train would probably knock Spider-Man on his ass, hurt a bit; but home boy is getting back up.

How is that good enough to think he'd beat either of the Kryptonians?

Nam threw a 100+ ton train a quarter mile away with seemingly not much effort, Hellfire missiles and 30mm bullets, two things that would destroy the armored vehicle Peter caught didn't get past their armor and we see Faora is strong enough to throw Clark through buildings and into a bank vault, denting it. She also bent metal strong enough withstand an orbital entry crash.

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That was 100+ tons? Do traincars actually weigh that much? And why would that specific throw be a bother to Peter with his spider-sense? Though I could see some viability if it were in close-distance.

OT: I dunno if this Time Runs Out gloves extensions count as standard. But they were auto-activated, which is why I even bothered. That, and because they make BP quite powerful in this fight.

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The train in MoS closely resembles the EMD SD70 series locomotive. With there being more than one model to that train and therefore varying weights, it complicates things, but we can base it on the standard SD70 model which is 197 tons.... Yes, train cars tend to weigh that much. I don't think the argument was about whether or not Peter would be able to react to such a thing as much as it was him being able to catch armored vehicles without issue equating to him being able to catch a train car that weighs that much, but I've been wrong before.

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Probably the best evidence out there for Peter handling a train car physically. This apparently happened with a severe headache, so if he was in better condition, he probably could replicate it easier.

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Another strength feat that could help Spidey in a 1 v 1 with MoS Kryps.

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@rajjar: I honestly had no doubt that Peter was able to lift a train car, but my point was specifically in reference to the argument about Peter catching an armored car (that can weigh 30 tons) and resisting the force of another so much that it crunches around his body to compare to the 100+ ton train Clark got hit with. Not really comparable at all if you ask me.

That's a nice feat and all that you posted, but subway cars tend to weigh about 42 tons (heaviest subway cars I was able to find in NYC). Even if he caught that car out the air, did it have as much momentum/force behind it as the one Nam threw through the air? Even if Nam threw the exact train Peter is holding to where Clark stood, can we surely say Peter would just catch it and hold it up as easily?

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616 team.

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Hmmm what’s people opinions on dceu Kryptonians compared to the likes of Morlun and the inheritors since 616 spidey has held his own on more than one occasion

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@batman242 said:

@rajjar: I honestly had no doubt that Peter was able to lift a train car, but my point was specifically in reference to the argument about Peter catching an armored car (that can weigh 30 tons) and resisting the force of another so much that it crunches around his body to compare to the 100+ ton train Clark got hit with. Not really comparable at all if you ask me.

That's a nice feat and all that you posted, but subway cars tend to weigh about 42 tons (heaviest subway cars I was able to find in NYC). Even if he caught that car out the air, did it have as much momentum/force behind it as the one Nam threw through the air? Even if Nam threw the exact train Peter is holding to where Clark stood, can we surely say Peter would just catch it and hold it up as easily?

Yeah the weight difference is way too big to call it comparable. Peter wouldn't be able to catch it.

Webbing might be a different matter. If Nam lobs a train car at Pete at a similar angle, Peter could use the webbing at pull it downwards (no force acting on it to resist Peter's strength, since I'd assume it would come down in his general area, and gravity is already pulling it down).

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T-90 tanks - so 51 to 53 tons.

Is the train arg that relevant? The 616 team doesn't cover that much distance in fights. And Nam looking for a 100 ton object leaves a 2 v 1 for Faora. And if Panther uses his gauntlets ... well ... she ain't Namor is all I'm gonna say.

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@lan_fan said:

Black Panther instantly gets his neck snapped, and Spider-Man will go down eventually.

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XD couldn't help myself.

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Hmmm what’s people opinions on dceu Kryptonians compared to the likes of Morlun and the inheritors since 616 spidey has held his own on more than one occasion

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@rajjar: Well, like I said, it was only in reference to the other guys argument, not that it was truly relevant to the thread at hand. The only relevance in this battle that it has is Nam's raw strength. I've always wondered what the tensile strength of Peter's webs were. Is it too strong for either Kryptonian to break free from?

Did the claws cut Namor? I can't tell.

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I don’t see how either of the kryptonians are gonna get through black panthers armor when even immortal hulk almost failed to get past it.