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#1 Posted by shirso (4353 posts) - - Show Bio
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Random encounter.

No time limit for The One

AM Meliodas

Post purgatory but undead Ban.

Current versions of everyone otherwise.

No bfr

In character but fighting seriously.

Which group will prevail?

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#2 Posted by deactivated-5c6c427da31ab (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Sue stomps

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#3 Posted by kasya_carey (5602 posts) - - Show Bio

^^

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5c60ecae36801 (745 posts) - - Show Bio

SDS

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#6 Posted by ValorKnight (12412 posts) - - Show Bio

If you have read either series (or multiple in the case of the F4), you would know that this is a gargantuan mismatch.

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#7 Edited by Toratorn (7265 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch solos.

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#8 Posted by rarelandpupper (343 posts) - - Show Bio

Yikes, F4 stomp.

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#11 Posted by COOLGUY18 (1053 posts) - - Show Bio

Human torch burns the SDS team/

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#12 Edited by Overwarrior2 (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Has anyone here actually kept up to date with SDS? Like this is ridiculous.

Like recent chapters had literally near light speed feats, and have gotten considerably stronger then before when they were already country level. The fact is the F4 get blitzed. If speed was equalized F4 would win due to hax. But the speed difference is overwhelming.

Also they cant kill Ban who is immortal and will keep draining their life force.

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#13 Posted by RobertMiles1 (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

that stupid anime garbage is no match for one of the true classics of american comics

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#14 Posted by SMXLR8 (6746 posts) - - Show Bio

that stupid anime garbage is no match for one of the true classics of american comics

oh come on don't be like that , not everyone likes comics you know so just show repect

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#15 Edited by SaltySultan (261 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of the F4 solo.

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#16 Posted by Eeef (2118 posts) - - Show Bio

Each member of the FF can solo.

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#17 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8224 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty certain Reed Richards isn't soloing the Sins, unless there's something I'm missing. Thing gets BFR'd a couple of hundred miles away, and I don't know enough to say anything regarding Human Torch or Sue, but I'm also fairly certain neither of them could solo unless their utterly bloodlusted, and the Sins are jobbing.

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#18 Posted by SmoothSanta (2449 posts) - - Show Bio

F4

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#19 Posted by jc9865 (568 posts) - - Show Bio

Sins could take it. Sue is hax but the speed difference should make up for it. Either way tbh

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#20 Posted by Mee09 (5765 posts) - - Show Bio

What have the Sins done that would allow them to contest with the likes of Johnny Storm and The Thing? Right now I think those two would solo 10/10 times.

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#21 Edited by Mee09 (5765 posts) - - Show Bio

@jc9865: What feats do they have that would allow them to deal with human torch? They can't tank his heat. How do they deal with Ben? He's too durable and strong for them. Then you've got Sue with both defensive and offensive hax for her team.

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#22 Posted by Yhwachkingsolo (140 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor cruel sun f4

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#23 Posted by AlphaQ (6345 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Sins speed is overrated, considering Arthur thought supersonic speed was impressive, but the Fantastic Four are not a fast bunch at all.

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#24 Posted by Toratorn (7265 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor cruel sun f4

Johnny absorbs it, Ben no sells it, Sue shields from it. The only one I'm not sure about is Reed.

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#25 Posted by Warlockmage (9289 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:
@yhwachkingsolo said:

Escanor cruel sun f4

Johnny absorbs it, Ben no sells it, Sue shields from it. The only one I'm not sure about is Reed.

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meh Reed did tank that energy attack from a weakened Korvac in Fantastic Four annual 24... should be enough to say it won't kill him. so he'll at least survive

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#26 Posted by jc9865 (568 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: alright to start with it’s not even teams yea, we have 7 on 4, most groups aren’t 1v1 but characters like Mel, escanor, king, and even Diane are hitting at least multi mountain levels. The sins of a plethora of pretty devastating attacks. Diane has mother catastrophe, Mel has he’ll blaze which has a wide AoE, escanor’s cruel sun etc. plus a lot of them are capable of speed glitzing and tend to like King and Mel. Enough heavy hits can take down Ben, full counter can arguable lock Johnny’s flames to a certain degree, and I’m not really sure of Reed’s combat abilities. She is the only one who I’m not sure how she can be taken out after her shielding has gone up. This isn’t a stop and the FF probably win a great deal as well. I’m just saying it’s debatable and can go either way

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#27 Posted by Toratorn (7265 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlockmage:nice find. Though it seems it wasn't that Korvac was weakened, but more like not fully adapted to his power in this body. But even if we don't count that (since that does sound pretty outlierish), I just remembered that Reed also survived a blast from Hunger (whose blasts punched through Sue's forcefield and turned Doom's armor into scrap), tanked blasts from Doom in latest issue of Secret Wars, tanked a blast from Terrax that atomized two top stories of Baxter Building and tanked scream of weakened Black Bolt that KOed Namor and Iron Man in Infinity, so he should be able to survive the Cruel Sun and, most likely, even stay conscious afterwards.

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#28 Posted by KHAOSeater (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@alphaq: Galand has a quadruple digit Mach speed feat at his absolute weakest and at least everyone but Merlin is faster than he is. And she can teleport spam. Realistically, Sue and Johnny die right away if the sins take this seriously. They have normal human durability when m and have to activate their abilities. And while thing is absolutely stronger than anyone here, he's not tagging a single member of the sins. He also isn't durable enough to say that, without a doubt they cannot harm him. And if they do, King can turn a scratch into a massive wound at will. Or Gowther can use mind hax. Or Ban steals his strength to make him weaker and then rips out his heart. Or Merlin uses double impact, which finds out what he's less resistant to before making him rapidly less resistant while endlessly attacking him with said weakness. Or a BFRs him into the ocean. Or Gowther mindf*$ks him. Basically, this is a poor matchup for them since they're most powerful members are too slow and lack the durability to not get immediately neutralized without they're powers, which, if used would allow them a somewhat easy victory rely upon them activating it with their peak human to marginally superhuman reaction times before massively, massively hypersonic characters with enough fire power to nuke mountain ranges with pure physical force can punt their heads off.

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#29 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:
@yhwachkingsolo said:

Escanor cruel sun f4

Johnny absorbs it, Ben no sells it, Sue shields from it. The only one I'm not sure about is Reed.

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meh Reed did tank that energy attack from a weakened Korvac in Fantastic Four annual 24... should be enough to say it won't kill him. so he'll at least survive

He did this against the Sphnix too, guy who fought Galactus.

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#30 Posted by Warlockmage (9289 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

@warlockmage:nice find. Though it seems it wasn't that Korvac was weakened, but more like not fully adapted to his power in this body. But even if we don't count that (since that does sound pretty outlierish), I just remembered that Reed also survived a blast from Hunger (whose blasts punched through Sue's forcefield and turned Doom's armor into scrap), tanked blasts from Doom in latest issue of Secret Wars, tanked a blast from Terrax that atomized two top stories of Baxter Building and tanked scream of weakened Black Bolt that KOed Namor and Iron Man in Infinity, so he should be able to survive the Cruel Sun and, most likely, even stay conscious afterwards.

hmm i need that Black Bolt scan... got any idea where i can go for it?

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#31 Edited by Toratorn (7265 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlockmage said:

hmm i need that Black Bolt scan... got any idea where i can go for it?

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Infinity #6

I'm also pretty sure he got blasted by Annihilus and Blastaar once or twice, and IIRC survived an antimatter explosion too, but I'll need to find the issues first.

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#32 Posted by Hope_w (2834 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody on the FF4 can put ban down, and he can most definitely solo with Hax.

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#33 Posted by WolverineIsTOAA (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol fantastic four.

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#35 Posted by kasya_carey (5602 posts) - - Show Bio

@hope_w: they can and will... immortality doesn’t grant you invincibility

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#36 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1670 posts) - - Show Bio

Could Ban snatch organs or sap strength from Johnny and Sue because I think that could really swing things in favor of the sins

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#37 Edited by SaltySultan (261 posts) - - Show Bio

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Any of the F4 solo.

Changed my mind only Johnny is soloing.

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#38 Posted by GXrevs06 (4769 posts) - - Show Bio

Sins and it's a mismatch. Ban uses physical hunt and drains them. Gowther tps. Mel blizes

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#40 Posted by AvatarOfDeath (354 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys are aware that Sue can put force fields in their heads and kill instantly right?

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#41 Posted by Matthew660 (1676 posts) - - Show Bio

F4 curb