I made a Fairy Tail Inverse Scaling Tier List, I'll be happy to discuss some topics as most of my takes are supernova hot, especially to people on CV lacking info on a lot of the reasons why I have some characters so low and others high. Yes I do believe in Suzaku >>> Spriggan very strongly him being several one shot levels even above the Top Spriggan. You can DM me at LameLiarLeo#0622 on Discord or we can discuss it in this thread. Over here would be more civil but there most likely will be interference if you don't mind that
Garbage ass scaling. Dorga scrubbing both Base Natsu and Suzaku while only being in his human form and yet both of them are somehow above him. They can't even scratch the walls of his dead corpse. I don't even have to get into the rest like Haku not being BDSK tier when he is a fucking BDSK. Or any of those scrubs are Igneel and Acno tier. This is worst inverse tier list I've seen 😂.
there is already kind of a tier list using Letters, in the anime is even more apparent since they mention A level wizard and lower.
S Level Wizard -> use Low, Medium, High, Top with Top = Saint Wizard at least real ones not those fake ones, talking about guys like Jura and Makarov.
SS Level Wizard -> includes Celestial Spirit King, War God, Mard Geer, Sprigan 12, Hades, PostTS Gildarts
SSS Level Wizard -> includes August, Irene, Igneel, Acnologia, Zeref, Dragon Gods etc.
we can assume that Erza is a Low to Mid Level S wizard during Pre Time Skip same with Laxus.
after Time Skip and during Magic Games we can assume Laxus is Saint Level/Top S Class since he fought on equal terms with Jura, seeing as the limit of the Magic Power finder is 9999 we can assume that is the limit of S Class as well since the Magic Game limit is S Level at least going from the monsters Erza defeated, Jura Scored a 8544 which is very close to 9999 and perfectly matches what a Top S Level should be.
Garbage ass scaling. Dorga scrubbing both Base Natsu and Suzaku while only being in his human form and yet both of them are somehow above him. They can't even scratch the walls of his dead corpse. I don't even have to get into the rest like Haku not being BDSK tier when he is a fucking BDSK. Or any of those scrubs are Igneel and Acno tier. This is worst inverse tier list I've seen 😂.
Dogra does none of that? Suzaku literally stops his attack. As for walls point it's likely something restricted to Dragons as Ignia passively melts it tree Suzaku no sells his flame Pillar which should be >>> his passive heat. BDSK title is the highest rank, it's obtained by being so much above the lower ranks. This is thy same in any hierarchy. There is a set bottom rank which you need to at least be this strong to surpass or there is this top rank where you need that minimum amount of strength to be there. Scrubs that easily reach fodder Acno. Dude is relative to Jellal lmfao
there is already kind of a tier list using Letters, in the anime is even more apparent since they mention A level wizard and lower.
S Level Wizard -> use Low, Medium, High, Top with Top = Saint Wizard at least real ones not those fake ones, talking about guys like Jura and Makarov.
SS Level Wizard -> includes Celestial Spirit King, War God, Mard Geer, Sprigan 12, Hades, PostTS Gildarts
SSS Level Wizard -> includes August, Irene, Igneel, Acnologia, Zeref, Dragon Gods etc.
we can assume that Erza is a Low to Mid Level S wizard during Pre Time Skip same with Laxus.
after Time Skip and during Magic Games we can assume Laxus is Saint Level/Top S Class since he fought on equal terms with Jura, seeing as the limit of the Magic Power finder is 9999 we can assume that is the limit of S Class as well since the Magic Game limit is S Level at least going from the monsters Erza defeated, Jura Scored a 8544 which is very close to 9999 and perfectly matches what a Top S Level should be.
Elefseria being below dogra even though he beat him? 😂😹😂
That shit belongs in the trash!
Not surprising tho, Mr 250k FTL FT verse
I'm sorry but since when was the Elefseria we meet in 100 years quest hie prime where he beat Dogramag, read the damn labels before criticising everything
I'm free to discuss it if you are willing to
When will you move on from that where the conclusion was me highlighting it was a joke
@lameliarleo: I don't have the time and not interested in discussing this with you mahn, so I'll just poke at fun this garbage tier list for the time being lol.
I made a Fairy Tail Inverse Scaling Tier List, I'll be happy to discuss some topics as most of my takes are supernova hot, especially to people on CV lacking info on a lot of the reasons why I have some characters so low and others high. Yes I do believe in Suzaku >>> Spriggan very strongly him being several one shot levels even above the Top Spriggan. You can DM me at LameLiarLeo#0622 on Discord or we can discuss it in this thread. Over here would be more civil but there most likely will be interference if you don't mind that
Just noticed but Wendy Belserion is meant to be bottom Top Spriggan Tier, my bad. Also because this chat can't exactly read and requires clarifying here I am doing just that
Human Dragon God Tier - 100 Year Quest Elefseria, Current Suzaku, Human Form Dragon Gods, Current Base Natsu
DDSK Tier - Human Dogramag, Elexion Laxus, Current Erza, Kirin, Misaki. (Though I want to mention Misaki would be moved down below RLDM Laxus and Erza moves right below Adult Wendy), Dragon Force Natsu, Weakened God Seed Aldoron
Pre SBT Acno Tier - Elentir Amp Wendy, 100 years quest Gildarts, Current Gray using Devil Slayer magic, Dragon form Pre SBT Acno, Aldoron Arc Jellal and Laxus, Alvarez Jellal and Pre SBT Human Acnologia
Sub Acno Tier - Haku, Tartaros Igneel, Elentir arc Youko and Hakune, Aldoron arc Base Laxus
Zeref Tier - Emotion Flame Natsu, Fairy Heart Zeref, Igneel Mark Natsu, Base Zeref, Dragon Force Natsu
Top Spriggan Tier - Dragon Irene, Current Dragon Force Wendy, Aldo Arc LFDM and ISDM Natsu/Gajeel, Battle Form August, Human Irene, Alvarez Arc Gildarts, Evolved Dragon Force Nebaru and As I mentioned before Wendy Belserion should be there
Diabolos - Dragon Force Nebaru, Metro, Current Lucy, Current Base Gray, Labyrinth arc Diabolos Trio, Base Gajeel, Current Base Wendy, Base Nebaru, BSS Mirajane, Current Elfman, Elentir Arc Mimi, Current Juvia, Wraith, Corny Thunder Legion
I doubt I need to go over the last 2 tiers, if so damn CV is worse than I thought
@lameliarleo: I don't have the time and not interested in discussing this with you mahn, so I'll just poke at fun this garbage tier list for the time being lol.
They might outstat Acnologia but he can't be hurt by magic, so he might still be top of the verse.
This was mostly stat based, as hax brings a lot of questions into play. Also as far as I know Acnologia does get damaged to an extent by magic, he is simply highly resistant to it
Garbage ass scaling. Dorga scrubbing both Base Natsu and Suzaku while only being in his human form and yet both of them are somehow above him. They can't even scratch the walls of his dead corpse. I don't even have to get into the rest like Haku not being BDSK tier when he is a fucking BDSK. Or any of those scrubs are Igneel and Acno tier. This is worst inverse tier list I've seen 😂.
Dogra does none of that? Suzaku literally stops his attack. As for walls point it's likely something restricted to Dragons as Ignia passively melts it tree Suzaku no sells his flame Pillar which should be >>> his passive heat. BDSK title is the highest rank, it's obtained by being so much above the lower ranks. This is thy same in any hierarchy. There is a set bottom rank which you need to at least be this strong to surpass or there is this top rank where you need that minimum amount of strength to be there. Scrubs that easily reach fodder Acno. Dude is relative to Jellal lmfao
The power gap between 100YQ and Alvarez isn't that big as you make it. What feats does Labyrinth Arc Base Natsu have that makes him powerful than Pre SBT Acnologia? In fact why is current Gray even in the same level as Pre SBT Acno?
What feats does Aldoron Arc Laxus, Youko, Hakune and Haku that makes them in the same level as Igneel? And as mentioned by other users, why is Haku several tiers down from DDSK?
Tbh I hope Suzaku is the strongest out of the diabolos bar Selene. He's the only remaining member left, not even once in this arc did Diabolos take a W. A 2v1 against Dogramag would be more interesting, I hope Mashima doesn't screw up the fight.
I already mentioned that the walls must be Dragon restricted thing, Ignia passively melts them but his flame Pillar which logically as an attack is >>> his passive heat is no selled by Suzaku. He gets up looking the exact same.
How do you see that as barely, he proceeds to block it and continue conversation with Natsu. Injuring Human Selene, Taking all of her attacks, keeping up with her speed wise, no selling Ignia's flame Pillar and being able to casually block an attack from Dogramag is still not enough for all of you. Do you need him to kill a Dragon God to even somewhat scale him to them?
Scale Acno above Gray, Gray simply has lots of upscaling that gets him above Jellal level characters who are relative to Acnologia
Because I don't think Haku scales to them, I don't think any of the DDSK are relative to each other. The statement is simply too vague, feats seem to constantly contradict it and being in the same rank doesn't make them on the same level, especially if it is the highest or lowest rank ad I've said before. E.g: your think at the start of the series Gildarts and Erza are at the same tier? They are both S Class. Erza was negged by Laxus. Another one is do you think Natsu is on the same tier as the guys on his rank? (just remove the S Class and pick at least 3 characters that can put up a fight against natsu)
The power gap between 100YQ and Alvarez isn't that big as you make it. What feats does Labyrinth Arc Base Natsu have that makes him powerful than Pre SBT Acnologia? In fact why is current Gray even in the same level as Pre SBT Acno?
What feats does Aldoron Arc Laxus, Youko, Hakune and Haku that makes them in the same level as Igneel? And as mentioned by other users, why is Haku several tiers down from DDSK?
Base Natsu is that high for taking Attacks from Suzaku and even standing still after Abyss, I think he is more durable than the human DGs and has AP to be considered strong but lacks in stats like speed to be above them. Also on the powercliff point if Natsu got that much stronger in a few days then his year of training is p crazy
Current Gray Scaling relies on an extended amount of time Scaling but it consists of him blitzing Skullion while Base Laxus couldn't exactly blitz Kyria, Hakune is relative to that Gray but gets absolutely destroyed by Gray w Ice Giants. I think the difference between Gray w Ice Giants and Hakune is bigger than the difference between RLDM and Base Laxus hence he is above. I am a believer in Alvarez Jellal approaching Dragon Acno in stats
Laxus is via a strong implication of being as strong as Jellal, Youko was somewhat arbitrary but just assumed she is around Hakune tier, she could Semi match Erza for a bit so I guess that could help Scaling her roughly there. I tried to sort out Haku by Casual Haku being around DF Wendy and used How Kirin vs Laxus continued to go to compare casual to serious. As for Haku below the others I explained it
Tbh I hope Suzaku is the strongest out of the diabolos bar Selene. He's the only remaining member left, not even once in this arc did Diabolos take a W. A 2v1 against Dogramag would be more interesting, I hope Mashima doesn't screw up the fight.
>expecting the antags to get Ws in FT
dogramag is gonna beat Suzaku, then natsu powers up with friendship omnipotent magic and 1shots the rock bum
i don't even read 100YQ and i know this list is terrible.
First of all, Dragon Acno is top of the verse undisputed. Human Acno on the same tier with Alvarez Jellal is laughable.
my opinion = fax
ur opinion = creditless
If you have not read it I won't exactly bother
Acnologia sucks ass in comparison to the Dragon Gods and Pre SBT is like a mid tier. Jellal probably blitz negs Human Acno
bro its kinda canon that Acno was the strongest dragon in the world and the dragon gods literally fled to the other continent cause they were scared of him lol
I already mentioned that the walls must be Dragon restricted thing, Ignia passively melts them but his flame Pillar which logically as an attack is >>> his passive heat is no selled by Suzaku. He gets up looking the exact same.
How do you see that as barely, he proceeds to block it and continue conversation with Natsu. Injuring Human Selene, Taking all of her attacks, keeping up with her speed wise, no selling Ignia's flame Pillar and being able to casually block an attack from Dogramag is still not enough for all of you. Do you need him to kill a Dragon God to even somewhat scale him to them?
Scale Acno above Gray, Gray simply has lots of upscaling that gets him above Jellal level characters who are relative to Acnologia
Because I don't think Haku scales to them, I don't think any of the DDSK are relative to each other. The statement is simply too vague, feats seem to constantly contradict it and being in the same rank doesn't make them on the same level, especially if it is the highest or lowest rank ad I've said before. E.g: your think at the start of the series Gildarts and Erza are at the same tier? They are both S Class. Erza was negged by Laxus. Another one is do you think Natsu is on the same tier as the guys on his rank? (just remove the S Class and pick at least 3 characters that can put up a fight against natsu)
What Dragon restriction?
Serious Suzaku failed to deal damage to the walls.Heres nothing to add.The panel dont lie
No selled my ass.Yeah,neither of them were K.O. but the fact both are ants for Ignia and got both treated like shit tells me enough
Just take a look at Suzakus face.He didnt block it casualy.
Hurting Human Selene means nothing when she lost on purpose.Neither it looks like shes a physical fighter in her humanform
Jellal is Acno Tier?
Another guy got treated like shit.What did Jellal accomplished against Acno?He did 0 damage to him.Christina did more and nobody would scale the ship to Acno
Aha,that statement is to vague but Elfserias "DG´s are on Acno Tier" is not?The old fart with Alzheimer didnt know how strong how Alvarez Arc Acno was.Ignia also claimed Igneel was the strongest ergo he holds him extremely high.And we both knows Igneel is weaker as Acno
Again,for what reason i should believe Haku is 2!!! Tier below his peers?He facetanked Wendy Roar like its nothing and hes also a CQC fighter.People like that needs stats
Yes there is tons to add, everything Suzaku has done makes it Illogical for him to be inferior to Human DG passive magic power
Um what? Suzaku gets right back up in seemingly no time barely looking different from before Ignia came. Does this not directly show us Suzaku tanked the flame Pillar that is >>> his passive heat which can melt a decent portion of the wall you claim Suzaku can't scratch
Damn, his face looks bruised from Natsu and his looking up, he must be struggling so much to block this
Hurting Selene means a lot, Gray can pop up and slice up Ignia with a single strike causing him to bleed and get knocked out, just cuz Ignia lost on purpose that doesn't mean Gray has scaling from that. It's a Feat, you don't just make your durability so low. Also even if you think she lost on purpose her magic power enlarging the moon shows she was serious
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Yes Jellal is Acno Tier
Yes it isn't, because "these guys are Like Suzaku" vs "these guys are at least as strong as Acnologia" supported by "we eclipsed the Dragon we feared so much" supported by the DDSK beating up mid tiers who scale to a stronger Jellal yh than the one who proceeds to show relativity to Acno
Ignia would actually be right with his Igneel point. Prime Igneel >>>> Tartaros Igneel ~ Tartaros Acno. Ignia says Igneel WAS the strongest, He knows of Acnologia's power ups. If Alvarez Acno is as low as I have him he must refer to SBT Acno.
Gajeel due to Scaling to Bloodman, Juvia due to being able to keep up with Gray.
And what about base Natsu who beat amped spriggan with two shots? You think that Bloodman>Irene amp Neinhart?. Wall said that Laxus is top class in Fairy Tail, also Laxus could to kill Ajeel with one unnmaed attack, what Gray couldn't, so i don't even see Gray above Laxus, let alone Juvia.
I believe Acnologia got that amp when he bathed in Igneel's blood, The thunder legion were capable of keeping up and giving Base Gray a difficult time
Yes you are right. but we can't really to know if the amp enough big to make Acnologia stronger than Igneel even in his human form.
"Aha,that statement is to vague but Elfserias "DG´s are on Acno Tier" is not?The old fart with Alzheimer didnt know how strong how Alvarez Arc Acno was."
Tbh I hope Suzaku is the strongest out of the diabolos bar Selene. He's the only remaining member left, not even once in this arc did Diabolos take a W. A 2v1 against Dogramag would be more interesting, I hope Mashima doesn't screw up the fight.
I also think Suzaku is a outlier amoung the DDSK.
Who knows.Natsu vs Suzaku was a rly good fight.Laxus vs Kirin was Horseshit
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