Fairy Tail: Aldoron Vs Brandish And Dimaria

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Just as the title says, two Spriggan members vs the Wood DG

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Rules -

  • Canon Feats
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  • 25 mile distance apart

Who wins? Why?

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Would Brandish' power work on him? Like can she shrink half of his head for an insta kill?

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Finally, a good Aldoron thread

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Lol wut??? Aldo = Pre RoT Acno >>>> Irene >>>>> Brandish/DiMaria.

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Aldoron stomps

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Aldoron steps

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@jdogg said:

Lol wut??? Aldo = Pre RoT Acno >>>> Irene >>>>> Brandish/DiMaria.

Exactly this.

Troll thread, inb4lock.

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Aldoron stomps

@jdogg said:

Lol wut??? Aldo = Pre RoT Acno >>>> Irene >>>>> Brandish/DiMaria.

Exactly this.

Troll thread, inb4lock.

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Aldoron steps

what about time stop and Brandish's shrinking?? They do start a mile apart from each other

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#12  Edited By Edgelord91

The dragon stomps

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Aldoron has got this

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Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

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Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

Really?? Has that been stated anywhere (that I missed)? And Zeref's death magic worked on Aldoron-chan.........?

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What meaning does a mile apart distance even have when aldoron's finger nails dwarfs mountains?

They will be just right next to him, and he flicks his finger in their general direction, killing them.

Even if we argue that dimaria traps him in time stop, there AP is too low to hurt him(island level vs multi-continental).

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Distance is the problem? Ok

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#20  Edited By Woodward
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Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

That's a misconception and it's false.

Normal magic (unless it's hax) doesn't work on them because dragons in general have very tough scales and durability. Even Dragon Slayer Magic, despite its properties, has a hard time dealing any damage when it isn't potent enough. In the case of Brandish and Dimaria, their magic won't work because of the magic power difference.

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@brownzeus said:

Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

And Zeref's death magic worked on Aldoron-chan.........?

Zeref dont use Death Magic.All of his "death" attacks are a curse,the curse of Ankhseram

And Dimarias Timestop dont work on people where have higher magicpower than her as well as Brandish´s.Buffed Neinhart was unaffected by her Spells

The Dragon stomps

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Magical power is not a factor for hax. Hax > PL which is pretty much stated by Mashima. Dragon Scales protect Dragons from direct attacks. In this case they can't doing anything to Aldoron to hurt him or KO him no matter how much they try. And it's doubtful their hax magic would work due to Dragon Scales.

Zeref can only affect Dragon's bcs of his Curse. Without it, he would have no against a Dragon without DS magic.

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@ultimatesage: By hype each of the 5 Dragon God's are roughly equal to pre ROT Acnologia (or at least very close), Zeref originally made the Spriggan 12 and the Alvarez army to combat Acnologia, meaing it would require at least 10 other Spriggans and the entire Alvarez army to fight against Acnologia and Aldoron should be roughly around Acnologia tier (pre ROT). As for time stop and shrinking, both had shown limits like when Neinhart became completely immune to Brandish's shrinking after being amped by Irene, and Neinhart still got one shot by Alvarez Arc Natsu, while current Natsu could only deal 1/100,000,000 of damage to Aldoron.

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Dimaria's time stop was overpowered by END Natsu who Gray stalemated, so Aldoron is going to break out of it like Natsu then stomp her and Brandish.

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#24  Edited By BrownZeus

@ultimatesage said:
@brownzeus said:

Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

Really?? Has that been stated anywhere (that I missed)? And Zeref's death magic worked on Aldoron-chan.........?

It was a thing in the dragon festival side of the tournament arc.. there was not an explicit statement but it was pretty much noted.

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Endurance immunity.

Makarov's case is especially a strong case here because he doesn't just use spells. He amplifies his physical stats with magic. Meaning Dragons are not just immune to magic but anything that is amplified by magic as well. Otherwise, there would be not such a different reaction from when Makarov punched a dragon and when Natsu combusted his flames into the back of another dragon. That is unless anyone here wants to make the argument that at this point in the story Natsu was so far above Makarov in power that he outclassed his punch feat by a factor of thousands, where In Makarov's punch did not even make the Dragon flinch while in Natsu's case the dragon was clearly screaming in pain. This is clearly immunity, not durability.

Dragon Slayer magic's whole point lies in the unique property of allowing the wounding of dragons.

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This has, as far as I am aware remained consistent. Although I wouldn't know any better because I drop this garbage of a series in the Tournament arc. Hot garbage that persisted on using friendship power-ups as a means to overcome adversity. The writing was so bad for me back in the day I'd rather eat trash that read another chapter as that would leave a better taste in my mouth.

Whether this has remained the case for sure I can't say, however. As the only reason why I know about the series progress is that I have been heavily spoiled by friends. So things might have changed.

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#25  Edited By Raziel2014

@nwname said:

Would Brandish' power work on him? Like can she shrink half of his head for an insta kill?

no, we have seen when Brandish tried it on Enhance Sprigan by Irene and it was negated due to higher magic power/AP/DC, even Hax are powered by Magic so its limited by the user even if it could allow the user to fight a tier higher than normal.

so we can assume that Dimaria time is also gonna be destroyed due to massive difference in power/Magic after all Dimaria is not actually controlling time via time rules/Universe but using Magic as a medium to do so as long as that medium is overwhelm and destroy the technique would fail or destroyed, if you were to remove the magic powering the Wizards attack it would be nothing left same with a weaker magic power trying to overwhelm or in this case stop a massively higher one, you cant fit a gallon of water in a cup.

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@ultimatesage: By hype each of the 5 Dragon God's are roughly equal to pre ROT Acnologia (or at least very close), Zeref originally made the Spriggan 12 and the Alvarez army to combat Acnologia, meaing it would require at least 10 other Spriggans and the entire Alvarez army to fight against Acnologia and Aldoron should be roughly around Acnologia tier (pre ROT). As for time stop and shrinking, both had shown limits like when Neinhart became completely immune to Brandish's shrinking after being amped by Irene, and Neinhart still got one shot by Alvarez Arc Natsu, while current Natsu could only deal 1/100,000,000 of damage to Aldoron.

Dimaria's time stop was overpowered by END Natsu who Gray stalemated, so Aldoron is going to break out of it like Natsu then stomp her and Brandish.

So being stronger/having more magic >> Hax used by weaker mages??

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@brownzeus said:

Impossible matchup. By lore dragons in Fairy tail are IMMUNE to all non-Dragonslayer magic.

Really?? Has that been stated anywhere (that I missed)? And Zeref's death magic worked on Aldoron-chan.........?

It was a thing in the dragon festival side of the tournament arc.. there was not an explicit statement but it was pretty much noted.

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Endurance immunity.

Makarov's case is especially a strong case here because he doesn't just use spells. He amplifies his physical stats with magic. Meaning Dragons are not just immune to magic but anything that is amplified by magic as well. Otherwise, there would be not such a different reaction from when Makarov punched a dragon and when Natsu combusted his flames into the back of another dragon. That is unless anyone here wants to make the argument that at this point in the story Natsu was so far above Makarov in power that he outclassed his punch feat by a factor of thousands, where In Makarov's punch did not even make the Dragon flinch while in Natsu's case the dragon was clearly screaming in pain. This is clearly immunity, not durability.

Dragon Slayer magic's whole point lies in the unique property of allowing the wounding of dragons.

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This has, as far as I am aware remained consistent. Although I wouldn't know any better because I drop this garbage of a series in the Tournament arc. Hot garbage that persisted on using friendship power-ups as a means to overcome adversity. The writing was so bad for me back in the day I'd rather eat trash that read another chapter as that would leave a better taste in my mouth.

Whether this has remained the case for sure I can't say, however. As the only reason why I know about the series progress is that I have been heavily spoiled by friends. So things might have changed.

So would Ultear's time magic fall under this as well. She used her time magic to rewind time for 1 minute and everyone pretty much was affected.

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@ultimatesage:

So would Ultear's time magic fall under this as well. She used her time magic to rewind time for 1 minute and everyone pretty much was affected."

Acnologia was seemingly moved around by Universe one, the Dragons in the Tournament arc used a magic gate to travel to the future, and Makarov could momentarily halt Acnologia in Tenrou Island. Dragons can be affected by magic in some ways, specifically which is hard for me to say because the Author never specifies, the bottom line, however, is Dragons cannot be physically harmed. They have shown immunity to any harmful effect of non-dragonslayer magic.

Magic is not the end-all-be-all, however. It's not like dragons are unkillable. Igneel managed to rip Acnologia's arm off with raw strength which means that with enough raw strength you can tear dragons apart. It's just insanely unlikely for any non-dragons to perform such feats as basically every human relies on om magic to amplify their stats.

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Why is this thread not locked?

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#31  Edited By citgo

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in a matter of days woodward and aldoron became memes..... legends

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Aldoron and it isn't close. Scales to PRe-ROT acno who would clap the spriggans

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How does Aldoron have multi continental durability? Did someone that strong attack him or something?

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#34  Edited By chasekilleen

@citgo: Aldoron fan boys wet dreams.

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@citgo: Aldoron fan boys wet dreams.

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lol thats not even a fraction of what aldoron can do in a wet dream

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@citgo: You're right, he's beyond omnipotent

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Aldoron obviously

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How does Aldoron have multi continental durability? Did someone that strong attack him or something?

He doesn't, he's only continental lv in durability right now.

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They are beyonder level surpassed Aizen!

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The only Spriggans whose hax hasn't shown to be canceled out by being too strong for it are Larcade and Jacob. MAYBE Larcade can put him to sleep/starve him (I doubt trees fuck, so Lust is not that good), and MAYBE Jacob can take him to his pocket dimension and eliminate him, but those are a one-in-a-million. Currently, even Metro and Wolfen alone should be enough to take these two, considering they were both taking on the whole of FT. Irene + August could possibly, POSSIBLY be debatable, depending on how far off from Acno they really are. (Acno's performance vs Erza and Jellal was pitiful, and made him out to be far weaker than previously thought. His reaction time is ass, and so is his aim.)

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They get stomped mainly because none of them have dragon slaying magic. Brandish is about to increase Gajeel to a size where he can 1v1 Aldoron. If they have Dragon slaying magic they could possibly win.

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nice thread:)

we already got our answer with the latest chapter

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#44  Edited By Dimitri1220

How does Aldoron have multi continental durability? Did someone that strong attack him or something?

Idk about the muti continental durability but here's some sort of explanation:

Base Natsu's Demolition Fist is around large mountain - small island level. It's a fire attack and Aldoron is wood so it's super effective. It's also a dragon slaying attack so it makes the attack >>>>>>>>>>>> than original strength. With all these buffs, Natsu only ended up doing 1 point of damage out of 100,000,000.

So large mountain + type effectiveness + dragon slaying effectiveness = 1 point / 100,000,000 points.

To prove how much dragon slaying magic helps:

Then there's the fact that Erza one shot Deus Sema, meaning her attack >>>> Deus Sema. Deus Sema is around island level (calcs go from small island to small country, so I'm just saying island level). That same attack wouldn't have put a scratch on Irene, who is the dragon that used the attack. Keep in mind, Erza was using a physical attack, not a magical attack, so Irene didn't have her magic resistant scales help her out, it was just her physical defense. Erza ended up getting her sword enchanted with dragon slaying magic and ended up one shotting Irene.

So basically, Irene would no sell an attack >> island level. Aldoron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irene.

Natsu used a large mountain attack, with the dragon slaying advantage, AND with the fire advantage because Aldoron is made out of wood. And how much damage did it do? 1/100,000,000.

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The attack of natsu isn't level mountain, hell isn't City level but aldoron wins

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Aldoron solo Spriggan 12 & Zeref.

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Aldron stomps.

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@yomismo: It's mountain + AP. Natsu destroyed a mountain size war god 1 year before 100 year quest. He's stronger now

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#50  Edited By Dimitri1220

@yomismo: With fire and dragon slaying advantage it's easily beyond island level and it still did 1 damage