Exar Kun vs DOE Bane

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I'd side with Bane in both rounds. The fact that most of Kun's most impressive opponents have facing Kun as their main feat honestly leaves me more impressed with Bane's dueling abilities, and Force would be closer with Bane being the greater telekinetic and lightning wielder whereas Kun possesses sorcery related powers. Should be one hell of a fight though.

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#6  Edited By KeiKrossKira

Round 1. I would have to give the edge to Kun, he is very unpredictable, and probably one of if not the best saber wielders of his time. Bane is good, but since his younger years seems to struggle with unpredictable opponents. Granted he may have surpassed that in time, and his battle precog is pretty good. But all in all i'd still give the slim majority for Kun.

2. This one is a tough call. Cause Kun is very up and down with his displays of power, and so is Bane. Neither of them doing something extremely impressive without a nexus or item of some sort, but Bane seems to have more knowledge all around. So maybe the an edge to Bane here. Very up in the air for me.

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Either way.

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@emperordmb: Wasn't Bane superior to all the ancient Sith according to the Fact File quote?

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Exar Kun as weakened Spirit is compared to Sidious and makes Kyp Durron's power look feeble in comparison.Not to mention his feat of surviving a WoL led by Nomi along with a huge following of Jedi,one-shotting Odan-Urr and beating Vodo whilst simultaneously freezing a huge senate gathering.

The best Bane got in comparison is being above Thon to an unknown degree by DoE iirc.Same Thon that is dwarfed by prime Exar Kun.Bane gets curbstomped.

But obviously Bane wins in reality,got to wank Plagueis and the PT after all.

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Kun in both.

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Kun all rounds

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@jackofalltrades2:

Exar Kun as weakened Spirit is compared to Sidious

Exar Kun being mentioned aside Sidious doesn't prove parity to Sidious, merely places him above the others Luke has run into. By that line of thought Bane has been compared to Sidious because they both appeared in a quote listing off some of the most powerful sith.

and makes Kyp Durron's power look feeble in comparison.

It was a pre-prime Kyp Durron and it was his efforts to retrieve the suncrusher that were feeble in comparison to when Kun helped him, which makes sense considering Kun has a far greater understanding of how to wield such power with precision and mastery compared to a pre-prime Kyp.

Not to mention his feat of surviving a WoL led by Nomi along with a huge following of Jedi

He used a ritual, which is still impressive in and of itself, but he didn't straight up tank it.

one-shotting Odan-Urr and beating Vodo whilst simultaneously freezing a huge senate gathering.

These two feats are impressive and do stand completely as you've said them, but they still leave room for debate between Kun and Bane.

The best Bane got in comparison is being above Thon to an unknown degree by DoE iirc.Same Thon that is dwarfed by prime Exar Kun.Bane gets curbstomped.

That comparison made between Bane and Thon was in DOE, but it was in reference to a POD Bane whose force abilities weakened by poison, an incarnation utterly dwarfed by his DOE incarnation, so Kun dwarfing Thon hardly puts him above DOE Bane by scaling.

But obviously Bane wins in reality,got to wank Plagueis and the PT after all.

You wank our favorite Muun as well? :)

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@darthduelist9: Yes, some people consider that quote sketchy, though I personally believe it is definitely applicable to other Sith who have appeared in fact files before (such as Kun, Ragnos, Nadd, Sadow, and Kressh).

My belief on this thread however is not dependent on that quote and I use it as more of a supplement to the opinion I already hold than the sole basis for it.

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@emperordmb: Agreed, well it litteraly says Bane's more powerful then Kun so I think it's pretty relevant for this thread especially if people claim the opposite.

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Kun is the obvious superior in dueling.

If his amulets are allowed he can win this in one well fell swoop.

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Kun wins. More powerful, and about as skilled, though I'm not sure how Bane would handle his fighting style.

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Darth Bane, more powerful as Fact File puts it while comparable as a fighter.

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Kun. Better in practically everything.

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#20  Edited By DaDivineKing

@thevivas said:

Kun. Better in practically everything.

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@darthduelist9: The quote's referring to Force users who immediately preceded Bane, ie. Kaan and his brotherhood.

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Exar Kun both rounds, although round 1 should be very close.

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Exar Kun.

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@shootingnova: Didn't the quote that he was the most knowledgeable and powerful Sith up to his time?

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What's the quote being discussed?

For this fight, I'd back Kun most of, if not all the time. Bane holds his own, though.

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#26  Edited By ShootingNova

@darthduelist9: Yeah, but in the context of the passage, it refers to the Sith around his time like the Brotherhood.

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@shootingnova: Oh I see, I didn't know the entire context. Thanks :)

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@biodynamicape: It's metioned in Fact File how Bane was the most knowledgeable and powerful Sith up to his time but apparently it only applied to the Sith alive around his time. I don't have the quote at hand, I think it's featured in DMB's Bane respect thread.

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@darthduelist9: JediXman explained to me in this thread his interpretation, which he got from DarthAnt. The original quote can be found here: (or in the page before it)

Besides, the grammar structure of the quote seems to apply to Bane's mastery of power being greater, rather than his power itself, though obviously mastery of power is closely related to actualized power.

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DoE Bane has him losing his invulnerability, but his dueling and and Force powers are even stronger than when he was with the Orbs.

By this time, Bane is very, very familiar with the saber staff, so as amazing a duelist as Kun is, there's nothing he can do with a saber that will surprise Bane.
Kun's powers lie in sorcery, but they are much different than Zannah's powers, to which Bane had no defense.
I see Bane taking this 6/10.

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I side with Kun

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Prime Kun one-shots. TOTJ Kun stomps.

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