Exar Kun & Uliq Qel-Droma vs Arcann, Cade Skywalker, & Lady Lumiya

VS

Rules:

- Everyone is at their respective peaks as a combatant

- Kun and Uliq have their amulets and trinkets; are synced in teamwork

- Standard equipment and weapons

Round 1:

- Saber/physical dueling only

Round 2:

- All-out fight

20 meter starting distance all rounds

Takes place here:

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Team 2, good fight.

Team 2.

Duo with some difficulty. Kun's way too powerful here.

Team 2

Lumiya isn't really needed.

@i_like_swords: Yeah, she's fodderised out of the gate.

That pic of Ulic is the most unflattering one you could choose.

Arcann is probably the most powerful here (maybe after Kun, not too knowledgeable on him). Team 2, Lumiya is fodder.

@breakofdawn: Exar Kun is by far the MVP here.

Just because she's a women doesn't make her fodder

@kurk: I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that.

Fodder is a strong word, but honestly she is the LVP from what I can see.

On topic: Honestly idk what to do with Kun anymore with regards ranking. So make nonsense scaling you could pull out for or against him. I want to give it to the duo tho.

I don’t see how someone who could compete with Luke Skywaker is fodder. Anyway, team 2 wins.

@mastercilghal: She didn't really compete with him at all tbh, and worse, Kun as a spirit is stronger than a Luke one year beyond the power he had during BFC. Kun in his living prime would be far more powerful than his spirit was.

Using Luke to wank Lumiya is suicidal here.

Team 2. Lumiya is most certainly not fodder here...

@sithrevenant: I disagree. Lumiya is most certainly not Luke’s equal, but she could compete with him. In fact Luke admits on multiple occasions that she was a tough opponent.

“Luke silenced the Twi’lek with a bone-crunching back kick, then hurled himself at Lumiya, both blades striking for the kill. He knew better than to think victory would come so easily, but he had to keep her attention riveted on him until Mara struck.

Lumiya’s counter was, of course, masterful. She flicked her whip at Luke’s legs, forcing him into a high somersault that bought her half a second to spin away.”

Source: Legacy of the Force: Tempest

@mastercilghal: Caedus is > Lumiya by quite drastic measures and Caedus got humiliated by Luke.

@sithrevenant: well, The NJO era is known for its inconsistency. However, my point still remains. Lumiya was able to compete with Luke, even when he was enraged during their last fight in Sacrifice. I would say that Luke was likely holding back to some extent during the fights in tempest and Exile, which makes them somewhat invalid, but briefly holding her own against an enraged Luke clearly makes her a valuable asset for her team, and well outside fodder range. And lumiya defeated ROTJ Luke as well,in the comics , if I recall correctly.

@mastercilghal: Luke typically tends to underperform when he's enraged to be fair. Against Caedus it didn't help him at all, he just started fighting stupidly.

I just don't see any reason to think Kun doesn't one shot her with the Force.

Lumiya couldn't even overwhelm Nelani Dinn in a telekinetic contest. She is fodder.

OT, Team 1.

@sithrevenant: @mastercilghal: Just to chime in here for a second if you don't mind.

Her performance against Luke in Tempest was due to circumstances that have been covered in the past, her performance in Exile was a brief and inconclusive fight where Luke didn't launch a single hit and in Sacrifice she didn't "compete" at all. She got battered and did nothing but back peddle the entire time. Furthermore as AP pointed out Jacen's track record against Luke is poor (Gets pinned to a chair for minutes on end and ended within 7 blows of the duel, the only thing he managed being a single kick) and he's superior to Lumiya based off scaling and the general intent of LOTF. She gets backhanded by Kun or Ulic lol.

@jacensolo77: You know someone is horrifically wrong when we agree on something.

@sithrevenant: @jacensolo77: become frenemies

cade solos.

space weed>all.

Arcann solos

Cade could solo. Lumiya fodderizes

@sithrevenant: proof caedus > lumiya? Other than the kids own personal musings...