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Ikaris, Thena, Makkari, and Sersi

Jean, Magneto, Storm, and Iceman

They start 30ft apart in NYC. (No internal attacks)

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Team X-Men

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Omega's win

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Eternals destroy

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Eternals should, but are too inconsistent when it comes to power levels an durability.

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Eternals

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@purplehairedni1:

Based on their overall power levels IMO. Also most on X-Men can even afford to get hit by any of them since there durability level is severely lacking. X-Men would need to attack first and keep them away from them at all times which will be very difficult with eternals overall versatility and abilities.

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@cosmic_reign: uh??

Eternals are strong, but not this strong, sersi could go 1v1 against anyone here but everyone else is lacking in feats. 5

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@annamalhouse: Jean and Magneto have consistently powerful forcefields they consistently use. Bobby is still an ice guy that can reform and apparently create ice shields that can block way too much to be ice. Storm is the only one that doesn't consistently shield or have a consistent form to make up for all too human durability, but three of her teammates can invisibly think shields into existence and she does have shield feats although I wouldn't actually invoke them in a battle.

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@lordofallhumans:

Honestly Mag's shields are only one that could withstand a true assault without also being on the complete defensive at the same time.

Jean can cause some psy backlash at times and intense concentration to keep up with hard assault coming at her usually and alot times she just uses TK randomly to block/dodge attacks more then a straight shield, though maybe things changed more recently idk

Regardless To me they are just simply outmatched overall

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@annamalhouse: I don't know what any of that means. What is a "true assault"? All that stuff about Jean...no.

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Seemed pretty straight forward in my explanation, nothing hard to understand.

I mean not just blocking one random attack but a repeated assault from someone of the eternals Calibur that can attack in a plethora of ways on top of that

Ok, if you say so

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@annamalhouse: Not to me.

Like shielding from a white hole and direct attacks from Binary, while doing complexed tp to cut Binary off from the white hole powering her at the same time? Blocking bloodlusted Phoenix? Stranger?

I do say so.

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@olorun: Lacking in feats? I can understand the others but Ikaris recently gave Thanos a hard 1 v 1 fight.

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@noah_ouellette: It happens in the second issue of the current 2021 Eternals run.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Eternals-2021/Issue-2?id=181605

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#19  Edited By cosmic_reign

@olorun:

Sersi can probably handle Iceman and Storm on her own.

Azura can keep Jean busy

Not sure if Magneto can tag Makkari, but he'd have to deal with Ikaris as well!

ALL Eternals have comparable haxes to Mutants to a certain degree(ie. All forms of psionics, element/matter manip, teleportation, super strength/speed etc) and likely far more powerful and durable in any physical dispute

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@cosmic_reign: let's be real here both Thena and Sersi doesn't have a consistent level of speed except maybe 2 showings and that's going on a limb so both of them are non factors in this fight. The rest just gets tp. Makkari may be a problem but everything single X-Men in this thread has dealt with speedsters especially Magneto.

Lol at Sersi dealing with Storm when she basically is getting bombarded with all kinds of weather attacks before she can even fully function unless you can prove speed feats to suggest otherwise

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#21  Edited By cosmic_reign

@purplehairedni1:

Let's be real, the Eternals have the speed advantage here with Makkari and Ikaris on the field.

Mak blitzes them all. While reacting to Mak(if they can), the other Eternals would be hot on them. Ike can blitz as well!

Lol. As if Sersi has never stomped Elemental gods before.

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Mutants.... and I'd need a strong case to change my mind

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@cosmic_reign:

1. Not really the X-Men has reacted to characters faster then both of them

2. Like i said Thena and Sersi are non factors lol and then rest gets tp lol

3. Elemental god's without any real feats to compare them to Storm

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#24  Edited By cosmic_reign

@purplehairedni1:

Umm remind me plz who beat Makkari in that galactic race that most of the speedsters participated in?

Thena and Sersi are major factors along with the rest of Team Eternals

Doesn't negate what Sersi has done to Elementals. Lol

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@cosmic_reign:

1. Makkari was depowered multiple times in comics so scaling him to his classic levels are flawed lol

2.Not with any speed feats

3. Yeah but without any speed feats to suggest she can react to Storm she's pretty useless

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#26  Edited By cosmic_reign

Depowered or not, Mak is still physically faster and more durable and than any on T2

There are actual speedsters on Team Eternals. Lol

Are these Mutants exempt from being tagged? I think not...

Some of you act like every Omega Psion or Mutant can 1-hit-quit any opponent. Smh

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#31  Edited By nassergrant19

Wtf....

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@cosmic_reign:

In all honesty this shouldn't even be close at all and mutants would need super high end feats along with PIS to compete let alone win

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After looking at the new feats. Ikaris can almost solo. He fought Thanos longer than the entirety of the Annihilators did and caused more damage. Two separate attacks made him bleed. The fight ended before either died but Ikaris took his share of hits. The team cant replicate Thanos damage to Ikaris.

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@annamalhouse:

I'm fairly familiar with both teams(more so with Eternals, but also an enormous X-fan), so I'm open for debate.

I just believe there's more to these X-men/X-Women battles than any/every Omega Mutant telepath being faster and 1-shotting...Heh! IMO ofc

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#36  Edited By DemiurgeKaplan

Ill go with eternals. Jean is not taking down four eternals telepathically so lets get that out of the airways right now.

Especially not before Makkari blitzes her then the eternal team proceeds to overpower the rest of the omega group with vaster power and with greater experience & skill.

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#37  Edited By IntentDebatThor

@noah_ouellette: while the Thanos feat is good, it's kind of high end for Ikaris, considering this is the guy who admitted he is physically inferior to Thor, got manhandled by Black Bolt, overpowered by Red Hulk, was roughed up by handicapped Namor, got almost no sold by Hyperion and one-shot by cosmic Hulk.

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Omega's still win

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#40  Edited By GodlyShinigami

@cosmic_reign:

Yes they do. Mags and Jean shields and Jean solos with TP. Jeans shielded attacks from the Phoenix force , Hulk , Black bolt etc None of the eternals have the AP to get through her shields , Magneto shields are self explanatory.

Sersi is dangerous but she lacks the speed feats to suggest she can do anything in this fight. Thena is borderline fodder. Makari and Ikaris are definitely the fastest characters here , but they lack the AP to get through Jean and Mags Shields individually let alone a combined shield.

Adding in Storm and Iceman for support secures the Omega's victory.

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#42  Edited By cosmic_reign

@godlyshinigami:

Here we go again with untouchable telepaths.... Lol

Eternals ftw

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I.....lean Omegas but outside of Sersi and this recent Thanos fight I don't have much knowledge to go on for the Eternals

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@godlyshinigami: @cosmic_reign: @koays: @intentdebatthor: sersi just somehow got a feat of partially transmitting thanos(it's implied that his body is somewhat weakened tho) but even then it should be enough to transmute any person+shields. Telepathy is a sure win against the eternals tho.

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@olorun: I mean, I'd still want to see it happen to or through an energy shield before I'd agree to it working on the Mags and Jean levels of defense.

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@koays: if it worked in thanos I don't see it not working on something physical with much less durability.

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#49  Edited By cosmic_reign

@intentdebatthor:

?

@olorun:

Any Eternal you can name or think of is also a telepath + much more

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@olorun: physical and energy durability aren't the same