Rules:
Current Erza and King Piccolo when Goku fought him
Random encounter
No outside intervention
Start 50m apart
Any means necessary
Who wins and why?
Rules:
Current Erza and King Piccolo when Goku fought him
Random encounter
No outside intervention
Start 50m apart
Any means necessary
Who wins and why?
@animefreak1: king piccolo is at least a moon buster.....
Master roshi on panel destroyed the moon with 1 blast and he’s weaker than king piccolo
I have literally no idea how you got city level and how in gods name is king piccolo downplayed to that level when on panel feats from proven weaker characters say otherwise
@animefreak1: oh my god
You are one of THOSE DB down-players dude?
It’s an on panel feat that is casually replicated later on in the series it’s not that big of an outlier
Even if you wanted to say that.....Roshi still destroyed an entire mountain when he was first introduced
So I still don’t know how you’re lowballing king piccolo to just small city level when there are multiple feats done by weaker characters than him that prove that assumption wrong
@animefreak1: it does not qualify as a huge outlier since we can literally see characters capable of doing roshi’s same feat so casually even before the damn saiyans arrived
Ah yes all of roshi’s destructive feats are outliers because you said so. Incorrect Tien far exceeds that due to scaling.
He was literally bragging about how casually he destroyed that city saying it was done with nothing more than a “wave of his hand”
Yajirobe is a lot weaker than roshi so yeah your point is moot from that.
And if you want to play that piccolo states twice that he could in fact destroy the world which isn’t too far fetched if you’re above moon level which makes sense.
@animefreak1: about as reasonable as saying he’s small city level
Also namek saga frieza is not the first character to be planet level. Many many characters weaker than him are
@animefreak1: buddy if you want to claim that roshi’s moon feat is an outlier that’s perfectly fine
I’m contesting your claim that king piccolo is only small city level that’s the issue here. You don’t like roshi’s moon feat that’s fine the part I’m contesting is your claim he’s only small city level
How many people on this site are saying roshi busting a mountain is an outlier?
That’s you clearly ignoring the facts not me
@animefreak1: buddy if you want to claim that roshi’s moon feat is an outlier that’s perfectly fine
I’m contesting your claim that king piccolo is only small city level that’s the issue here. You don’t like roshi’s moon feat that’s fine the part I’m contesting is your claim he’s only small city level
How many people on this site are saying roshi busting a mountain is an outlier?
That’s you clearly ignoring the facts not me
The MAX Kamehameha could reach the Moon in seconds.
There is no way old Demon King Piccolo is side-stepping that.
The feat is the purest definition of an outlier there is in Dragon Ball.
If you think a moon and relativistic feat around chapter 40 amongst 200 chapters of mostly building to city level attacks with 1 small country level feat is consistent then there's not much to say besides reconsider what an outlier is.
My waifu Erza is done for.
A single worm who was tired out from destroying a city a full power isn't beating a feminist who destroyed a country level meteor entering from outer space at a relativistic speed.
@xdragon2002: King Piccolo was confirmed to be city/nuke level in the guide book and manga. He doesn't scale to full power Roshi's kamehameha either. He is only stronger than regular Roshi. The reason Roshi probably didn't use his buff form is probably the same reason the buff ssj form didn't work on Cell.
@animefreak1: While it's an outlier, it doesn't have to be discounted. Roshi gets a huge power boost in his buff form, and he had a long time to charge up a massive kamehameha. The power level of the attack could have easily been 500-1000 which would be around Piccolo's attack that destroyed the moon.
The way I see it
King Piccolo (power level 260): city+
Piccolo 23rd budokai (power level around 300): island+
Piccolo BOZ (power level around 400): country
Piccolo with a charged up ki blast (around 1000): moon
@alextheboss: I'm glad we share the same opinion that it takes a power level of 1000 to destroy a moon. :)
@animefreak1: Bro you really need to thicken your skin man. ive seen you around on here and youve shown to be botherd by the things these ppl say lol there literal sole purpose is specifically to get under your skin XD so why give them that satisfaction? Makes no sense plus if someone disagrees with you, there automatically gonna trolll you. Not cause your wrong but purely out of spite cause you dont agree so why care?
just sayin, you need to start disregarding the trolls more. nobody here (im assuming) is your friend, a family member or are close to you. Probably dint even know they existed till they said something to you. they have no significance to you personally so who cares what they say? lmao there words are weightless. Literally.
@geekynerd: You've lost me...
@animefreak1: Talks about outliners but yall go by pure fan calutations and even head cannon
Metorite is around 170,000 mph that is even lower than slowest lightning speeds
plus the metorite erza destroyed is the size of a huge boulder no way is that required country lvl to destroy it
your own fanmade opinion is (Level of 1000 to destroy a moon) holds no value.
23rd goku in the guide books is a moon buster.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.neoseeker.com%2Fu%2Ft%2F10%2Fnx6zpf.png&f=1&nofb=1
"Piccolo BOZ (power level around 400): country
Piccolo with a charged up ki blast (around 1000): moon"
piccolo didn't even charged up the blast plus your making up random powerlevels, piccolo basically uses king piccolo's moves at the time.
Its not that master roshi's attack is an outliner, you just got to you common sense, none of the z fighters at the time can barely even make kamehameha or dodan ray to destroy the world tournament stage. All you really say is king piccolo don't have an attack comparable to max kamehameha which is bs and the only reason its debatable, due to the no moon
there is no power lvl chart calculating every thing it takes to destroy a celestial object. And buff master roshi powerlevel was 180.
king piccolo stated to be able to destroy each region with an single blast, which is literally a country - small continent if you count the world tournament island from the guide books more qualified than the crap you started to say erza is country lvl.
https://i2.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/518/fairy-tail-8829799.jpg
there is nothing even stating that the metorite was going to destroy a country it was only targeting erza, which erza stated if it hits she would surely die.
https://i8.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/518/fairy-tail-8829787.jpg
not only is that meteor not country lvl its nothing compared to the scales of a dragon
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/519/7
that shit probably weaker than face, an entire guild couldn't even destroy it
erza country lvl litterally a warcrime compared pre dbz characters being moon busters/ country etc
honestly I don't really see erza even surviving an city bustering attack unless story plot
Lets be real here the only ones shown to effect the country in fairy tail is irene, august and brandonish. but its more just like an ablity/ spell. but as far as pure power attack and defense (literally getting harmed by cana , except for irene's dragonform)they are fodders to someone that complete destroy city with an single, not even Acnologia shown capable of such a feat, and its duarible is unknown since he basically just eats up magic.
Plus erza needed wendy to fight irene, and irene just killed her self so where the hell yall get that erza is country lvl when she literally just throw and swing swords don't even comparable her arsenal as king piccolo except switching armor how ever duriablity in this verse is kinda of shit. the fandom keep trying to powerscale ablities should not be scaled. Like when Irene used a spell that changed switch around the landscape. Now got people saying natsu and erza are country buster. The fuck, the only one shown to do that with a single spell was august (this spell pretty much suidical) don't real look as country lvl as it only effects people and where just choking over time, so its more just country range attack (people could still move and suggested to use protection magic so even this not required country durability)
Roshi needed his buff form and a huge charge up to destroy the moon. King piccolo showed superiority over normal Roshi who wouldnt be able to charge up and land such a long charged move on him. We have no reason to scale the king to that feat. I don’t think piccolo had to charge up to actually destroy the moon but he was significantly stronger than anyone from DB so that’s not surprising. He had a power level of 408 in the raditz fight and we can assume he got at least a little stronger between then and the moon feat so we can call it an even 500 which isn’t a surprising power level to destroy a moon with some effort (he is breathing heavy after so it took some decent power to do)
@animefreak1: Roshi busting the Moon is a HUGE Outlier/Gag Feat!
it was a serious scene. wat
The Master Roshi moon feat is an outlier because it just makes no sense. There's also the plot hole that it suddenly reappeared in the beginning of Z but idk if that was patched yet.
@fanfeatrt: erza (Galuna Island arc when she was gonna bust the moon) lol that wasn't even a moon nor did the sword even left the earth's atmosphere.) So that would more like an lie and trick someone who don't watch fairy tail. Even with the wank their pretty much glass cannons without protection spells/dragon slayer immune to elements/ plot. plus the strongest wizards can only effect a country aoe non bursting
@floridaman29There's also the plot hole that it suddenly reappeared in the beginning of Z but idk if that was patched yet.:
plot hole? How going to try to debunked something and you don't even know what your talking about. The moon was revived in dragonball in the 23rd tournament by kami and goku had to permanently removed his tail.
the whole notion of roshi's attack being an outliner is pure had cannon "Master Roshi moon feat is an outlier because it just makes no sense."
"you just got to you common sense, none of the z fighters at the time can barely even make kamehameha or dodan ray to destroy the world tournament stage."
King piccolo attacks where just as destructive on earth as master roshi's max kamehameha, and even stated he can one shot region in the manga, and the wlord tournament island in the guides books stated to be of a small continent.
moon bustering attack not even needed a city bustering attack is more than enough for erza.
You do realise it would take thousands of small nukes to destroy a city right. Not even an tzar bomb can't evaporate an entire city (downtown area at best) in to nothing. And is thousands times more powerful than fat man and little boy combined. fat man and littleboy is bigger than a small nuke and its area of effect radius is only like 1.3 km
erza lightning time ok but lightning speed combat speed hell no the feats try to highball arc when they fought laxus was contradicted and poves you don't even need to be as fast to side stop an attack. the arc after natsu and grey where getting speed blitzed by eraser and he lied and say he was as fast as lightning. Laxus lightning speeds and till hit characters far beyond on the tartaros arc and speed of tartaros wasn't erza hit by a lightning base attack by kyouka and she was getting her ass wooped by irene's enchanced soldiers, till makrou killed 100ks of them with fairy law. You really think fairy law going to work on king piccolo lmfao. Just forgot erza is just a mary sue and needs help to beat characters stronger than her (SADLY THAT PLOT ARMOR aint working out the author's knowlege). Its like saying batman can beat superman in an fair fight with no help/ no red sun light or kryptonite.
You got people trying to say natsu flt for reacting sting, if they where truely flt, na even just lightning half of the attacks in the final arc would be useless and would not need those dumb Exceeds to travel. So they can attack super-hypersonic in short bursts, but don't even need to make an blur to side step an projectile base attack, and they still hit can get hit by slow ass attacks like missile. So pretty you much say the series inconsistent af. The only one that give king piccolo problems speed wise is Dimaria Iesuta with time stop unless her magic can be overpowered like brandish.
Erza still claps King Piccolo
King Piccolo is not Moon level and will never be
He is City level by feats and even Daizenshuu statement
Erza is a Country Buster?
1.) erza don't even have any attacks capable area of effort besides swinging and throwing swords.
2.) you lying your ass because there is not country bursting attack, just manipulating the landscape by brandish and irene. August has over time suicidal spell and only effect the people, are still able to move around and where just choking. Brandish litterally got one punch koed by cana and August who is far stronger than erza afraid of getting hit by cana magical cards.
3.) how the hell you fans calculated that meteorite to be near speed of light with no confirmed distance giving, Plus it was breaching few the fking atmosphere for a few pages. The distance is mostly like shorter than the moon and it takes light 1.3 seconds) Just to be nice i give the average speed around 45,000 - 170,000 mph still slower than lightning.
@animefreak1: most of the crap you said is head cannon garbage and lies no way in hell is erza capable of bursting a country. Erza not even as strong as irene or august and need help
all you did is cherry picked a few statement
"He is City level by feats and even Daizenshuu statement"
No where is it confirm king piccolo is only city level, plus king piccolo literally stated to one shot each region in the manga
So pretty much your just taking information out of context.
Erza survivality is pure plot which pretty every main character in the fairy guild including gajeel laxus and makarov and juvia
A city bustering attack is more than enough to kill erza
smh easliy capable of blowing away a city where does that tell he is only capable of destroying city idiot
and a it would take the power thousands of nukes to destroy a city.
plus your just willing ignoring that king piccolo stated he would destroy each region on the planet with an single attack
he can one shot each region in the manga, and the "world tournament island" in the guides books stated to be of a small continent.
Regardless a city bustering attack is more than enough for erza.
@coldskin1: Calm tf down the 6 posts alt is monologuing to me about how I don't know dragon ball,
Not even just dragonball. erza country buster? erza don't use any other spells but change her armor and spam swords. Nor is there even any country bustering attack in fairytail to scale from.
and feats from ikusatsunagi atleast multi block - hill lvl+ as in an bustering an single attack, no way a single shock only 50-100 ft wide going to one shot a city (not even the small battle field there own) or an actual real sized mountain more like hill sized rock formation. city lvl threat+ yes
King Piccolo without doubt. Also lol at Roshi his moonbuster was an outlier. It is well known that the DC is often far higher from the DB characters, then their other stats. By that logic Erza her meteor block is an outlier too.
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