Erza Scarlet
- Morals On
- Erza is healed between rounds
- No friendship power up
- No PIS
......This is stupid. Like really stupid. "friendship power" or not. She's literally portrayed as the strongest woman in FT and it shows in the fact that Erza has beaten opponents Mirajane has failed to beat.
@deathhero61: Im not going to debate here, but portrayal doesn’t matter in this fight, so that comment wasn’t needed
@emmafrostxmen: it literally doesn't matter. She literally beats characters she fails to beat and has feats on par with hers.
@deathhero61: the only reason mira lost to azuma is because he had a hostage
@deathhero61: She didn’t lose to Azuma and performed better than Erza (when she didn’t use friendship speech which isn’t allowed in this fight) with her weakest satan soul
@emmafrostxmen: the friendship speech has no barring on her actual feats in that fight. Saying no friendship power doesn't change the direction of the plot and how the writing of Erza's character is designed.
She beat Kyouka one of the strongest in Tart,once she brought out Benizakura she immediately oneshots Azuma, and goes on to fight characters ranked higher than the ones Mirajane fights. And the story CONSISTENTLY portrays them as peers or at the very least that Erza is above her to some capacity.
@deathhero61: It actually does. She was getting stomped prior to friendship speech. It’s an emotional amp it’s completely real in universe so turning it off does affect how the fight will occur
@deathhero61: Also Natsu stated that Laxus or Mira were the strongest out of the people being controlled. Since he used the word “or” there is parity between Mira and Laxus whether you like it or not.
So you saying that feat puts Erza above Mira just isn’t true (especially by a lot). Additionally I’m not debating who’s stronger, just that Erza isn’t going to one shot her
@emmafrostxmen: idk man you say you aren't debating who's stronger but go out of your way to make "no friendship power" a rule which doesn't detract from her showings whatsoever. Natsu's statement regarding who he wants to fight is meaningless given that he specifically wants to test his skills against people in his guild who are considered above him(Mira, Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts) its a vague statement that tells us nothing at the end ot the day.
@deathhero61: The statement isn’t vague. He said “the strongest are in the middle, I’ll beat Laxus or Mira is there”. The word “or” was used which means there is parity and the wording was deliberate as Mira’s name didn’t have to be mentioned but it was.
And conveniently Mira and Laxus are people he'd like to challenge in general. He wanted nothing to do with Jellal in general, and didn't even want to him for fun. This desire to test himself mostly extends to top tier guild members, obviously including Mira or Laxus. It implies they are in the same tier which they are but not necessarily equals. Natsu's assessment in general doesn't mean much anyway.
And dude it Erza went even with Laxus who is definitely more consistently stronger than Mira is it really that weird that Erza would beat her?
Oh, this is interesting versus.
Is this Composite Erza? Because Erza in the picture with this trash armor can't surpass even round 3.
No counter for my post above
No counter for my post above
Oh yeah, my bad. Mira bitchslaps again then...
If Erza has only that armor (Heart Kreuz) in the picture:
R1: It's a joke. Erza no diff.
R2: Erza probably low diff. Mira proved to be comparable or slightly superior h2h fighter but Erza has a huge advantage due to swords and armor.
R3: Stops here. She really can't tank spells in this trash. Even Adamantine armor was destroyed by Jupiter Canon. And Satan Soul's nuke >> Jupiter. She needs Armadura fairy at least to surpass this.
If this is Composite Erza:
Definitely stops at 6.
Has a huge trouble at 4 or 5. Especially if Sitri has a full set of BSS spells and abilities like Halphas. Erza still hasn't armor against dark magic attacks. Her huge advantage here is Nakagami. But Nakagami still has no feats to say that it can work against dark magic. It only proved to be effective against spatial magic like Minerva's teleport. Besides it consumes insane amount MP and exhausts Erza.
@grandtoaa: Can you name people who beat Mira but were beaten by Erza?
@emperor99: Azuma, Irene, Kyouka >Seilah. Erza has done better in every arc.
Seilah knocked mirajane out of Sitri mode with one attack, and you think current Erza can't? Seilah form wasn't even that impressive as it didn't even take out all of Fake Wall's henchmen.
@grandtoaa: Azuma > Seilah? Really??? Azuma is a fodder compare to Tartaros Mira.You aren't right. By creator's cards Etherious Seilah = Etherious Kyouka in attack power, speed, strength etc. Kyouka effortlessly stomped Erza in her strongest armor. You probably forgot that Kyoka was tied with Faces and was dying.
How Erza can tank BSS nuke spells in her weakest armor? BSS nukes are far stronger than Jupiter which KOed Erza. And Seilah energy attacks several times stronger.
Do you think that current Sitri = Tartaros Sitri? Lol. Current Sitri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tartaros Etherious Kyoka = ~ Tartaros limit released Seilah >> Tartaros Sitri > = Tartaros Erza with Armadura armor.
Damn, how can Erza beat Irene? Irene even in Wendy's body could stomp Erza. You didn't mention that Erza was strongly empowered by Wendy and it was 2v1 fight. Irene strongly held back, but they couldn't defeat her even with PIS and PoF.
Can you name me the type of armor that can protect Erza from dark magic? (I'm not even mention about curses). Bcs even her special types of armor don't guarantee her protection. Her anti-lightning armor was destroyed by Laxus attack.
@grandtoaa: I have never seen people who think that Erza can knocked Mira out of her 3rd strongest takeover in my life. It's really absurd. Does your statement means that she can oneshot BSS or Skullion? Without any of her armor Erza should be comparable to base Mira (not BSS) except may be endurance or durability but it's debatable. Most of her armor doesn't rank her above BSS level except probably Armadura armor (it was stated by Mira that Armadura was her strongest armor before Nakagami). Erza needs some types of armor to manipulate elements like lightning or water while Mirajane can do it in BSS. Her strongest armor is Nakagami. She needs SO to use it like Mirajane needs two power sources (curse power (CP) and magic power (MP)) to use Allegria form. But we saw Nakagami in fight only twice. It doesn't have enough feats. I'm pretty sure that it works on PL (this means that if Erza's opponent has more MP then her, Nakagami can't stop this attack). Her mental resistance is a trash. One of the strongest Erza's armor (Adamantine) was destroyed by Jupiter. Jupiter blast < BSS nuke < Halphas/Sitri nuke < Seilah's Demonic Eyes.
Erza's DS sword can hurt Laxus like DS can hurt a dragon. But DeS sword can't damage Mirajane like DeS damage an Etherious bcs of it's curse nature. I can't see her even close to clear.
@emperor99: Wait, is this just Erza in the armour she is using in the above pic, or is this Erza at her strongest we are using? An I never said Azuma > Seilah, how the hell did you get that? You asked people who Erza beat that Mirajane couldn't beat, and I listened those who couldn't beat, or those Erza fought that were stronger than who she fought.
@grandtoaa: It's a Composite Erza. She can use all types of her armor. Erza in the pic can't surpass R3 in that armor.
@grandtoaa: You still haven't answered the question about Erza's anti-dark magic armor.
Oh, I really forgot that Mirajane can use Macro without Seilah's or any other takeover. Then I change my answer.
Composite Erza:
1) Wins shit-diff
2) Stops here. Macro GG.
3) Needs Armadura or Nakagami at least to surpass this.
4) Can stop here.
5) Can stop her.
6) Stops here. Can't surpass.
7) Can't surpass.
@emperor99: Sorry what did you ask again about the Anti dark armour? We are arguing in two different topics
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