Round 1: In Character, Morals On by themselves
Round 2: Bloodlusted
Round 3: Tsuna and his Guardians vs Naruto and Sasuke, 5 Kage
Give actual reasons please.
Round 1: In Character, Morals On by themselves
Round 2: Bloodlusted
Round 3: Tsuna and his Guardians vs Naruto and Sasuke, 5 Kage
Give actual reasons please.
@dccomicsrule2011 wanna debate this one.
@thatguywithheadphones: Naruto takes it dude. He can now throw biiju rasenshurikens. Im done, that is too freaking awesome even for no good tsuna.
@deathhero61: Well thats a pretty good attack but would he be fast enough to hit Tsuna?
@marshall_long: True True but with Naruto new abilities who do you think would take Round 1 and 2? And what about 3?
@deathhero61: Well thats a pretty good attack but would he be fast enough to hit Tsuna?
EoS tsuna has LS reactions.
@deathhero61: Oh I know i just merely wanted to know whether or not you think he would have been able to hit him with that multi mountain busting attack
@deathhero61: Actually faster than light, because Jager was going at lightspeed.
@justsomerandomkid: Probably not but the range of the explosion should get him.
@deathhero61: Actually faster than light, because Jager was going at lightspeed.
Tsuna tagging him is no different from jack rakan and eva tagging negi in his lightning form(which gives him lightning level combat speeds) They knew the direction they are coming(due to obvious openings that give them hints to where they are going to attack from.) at and move their fist/elbow into position with appropriate momentum and POW. Thats reactions not legit combat speed.
@deathhero61: But we're not talking about combat speed. We're talking about reaction speed. He maybe can't fight at light speed (even though he has gone faster then light and I'm just using this as an example) but he can react to things that are. Like you just said that reactions isn't combat speed. But anyway I don't see what's stopping Tsuna from speed blitzing before he finishes the bomb, IF he couldn't get out of the blast radius in time. Even though I believe he could
Naruto too much for him.. :D
The Fight is over in secs :)
Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken by 100 Shadow Clones :D :D
@thekilborne: @utkanflash: Everyone keeps saying the same thing but what's stopping Tsuna from speed blitzing??
@thekilborne: @utkanflash: Everyone keeps saying the same thing but what's stopping Tsuna from speed blitzing??
Not having enough rushing speed to do so.
Enough rushing speed? He escaped a pseudo black hole that wasn't letting even light escape in his Cambio Form. That's not enough speed to blitz? How about him blitzing his father in a couple seconds who was 5 kilometers away, outside of Cambio form, isn't that fast enough?
For the disbelievers, Tsuna was dodging submachine gunfire in absolute base, no dying will whatsoever. He is FTL.
Naruto have greater dc i believe and he can bring out his Rasen shurikens faster than Tsuna who requires charging time 4 x-burner. Tsuna have the flight advantage though and could avoid most of Naruto's attacks with his speed + hyper inuition but his durability isn't impressive. It's over once he get caught of the blasts by the bijudamas, rasenshuriken etc.
@justsomerandomkid: Those weren't real Black Holes.
@dccomicsrule2011 wanna debate this one.
I'm up for it.
As for the people saying Tsuna is FTL.....I'm just going to act like their post don't exist.
@dccomicsrule2011: I wanna join in this debate as well I'm very naruto savy
@justsomerandomkid: Probably not but the range of the explosion should get him.
@deathhero61: Actually faster than light, because Jager was going at lightspeed.
Tsuna tagging him is no different from jack rakan and eva tagging negi in his lightning form(which gives him lightning level combat speeds) They knew the direction they are coming(due to obvious openings that give them hints to where they are going to attack from.) at and move their fist/elbow into position with appropriate momentum and POW. Thats reactions not legit combat speed.
@justsomerandomkid: Honestly, if Tsuna can handle 8000 shadow clones then he deserves to win....
Look up Massive Rasengan Barrage and tell me if Tsuna can survive that...
Honestly, if Tsuna can handle 8000 shadow clones then he deserves to win....
Considering, Tsuna has sub-light reaction speed, and a plethora of other abilities at his disposal - I say he probably could handle 8,000 shadow clones.
@dccomicsrule2011: I wanna join in this debate as well I'm very naruto savy
I'm game. It's been a while since I've had a non-Star Wars debate on the forums.
Tsuna stomps with his lightspeed reactions. And...I'll say this one more time.
NARUTO DOESN'T USE 1000 CLONES ANYMORE. Seriously, he hasn't fought like that since Part 1.
Oh and his max was 3000 that he showed and that was for training.
Tsuna wins all 3 rounds and solos round 3.
How do you figure that? Lightspeed = lightspeed. You literally cannot react with any less speed. And Jager and gang were owning with shortwarps. In essense, FTL speed is what is needed. What was needed.
@darkraiden: Thats only due to plot because if he did he would stomp most of his opponents.
@marshall_long: What did you not understand when I said "pseudo" black hole. The black hole still wasn't letting light escape. But of course not like it matters since he blitzed someone outside his most powerful form
@darkraiden: Thats only due to plot because if he did he would stomp most of his opponents.
Nah it's because he probably can't or it's just not a good strategy. When he used to do it before, he always lost regardless. He uses his clones better, and he can't do that with 1000. Plus regardless, this is in character for at least the first and 3rd round.
@darkraiden: Tsuna should have fun with potentially 1000 KCM clones.
@thekilborne: Still don't see whats stopping Tsuna from speed blitzing Naruto and giving a mini X-Burner to his skull
@justsomerandomkid: Oh sorry didn't actually catch that word.
@marshall_long: No problem. I thought you saw it but then ignored it. My bad
@dccomicsrule2011: does Tsuna have a durability feat above mountain level also what his most destructive attack stronger or weaker than a standard bijuu dama and is Tsuna's movement, combat, and reaction speed all light speed or only reaction
@dccomicsrule2011: does Tsuna have a durability feat above mountain level also what his most destructive attack stronger or weaker than a standard bijuu dama and is Tsuna's movement, combat, and reaction speed all light speed or only reaction
I doubt Tsuna's durability is mountain level, granted, he has taken shots from high-tier is his universe, so his durability is at an extremely high level, but Mountain level is beyond pushing it because I doubt if anyone in the Reborn! Universe, save Tsuna, and Checker-Face can bust a mountain.
Tsuna is only sub-light in reaction and maybe combat (that's a big maybe). His travel speed should be in the hypersonic range considering he traveled, like, 5 kilometers in seconds.
@dccomicsrule2011: okay thank you I think I have a better understanding of Tsunas limits so where do we begin.....Naruto is very versatile having enhanced sensing abilities from negeative emotions to being able to accurately fight invisible clones reflexes agility healing strength durability speed movement reaction and combat included shadow clones mastery of all elements since he's the Jin of all nine bijuu plus receiving the so6p senjutsu has the help of 9 immortal beings that have lived since the Sage created them for thousands of years and has a technique that he created that cuts on a cellular level and another that can bust mountains possibly even flight through the power of the sages body or the 7 tails wings can walk on water ceilings trees and multiple other terrains and the through the power of the sun symbol on his right hand produce miracles such as giving Kakashi another eye and reviving gai sensei.
Thats not touching Tsuna, even if he was not moving.
Those massive gravity spears are powerful enough to stop Tsuna in cambio from maintaining his top speed. Even that is actually faster than Naruto ever was. Those Rasenshurikens are not doing anything but getting absorbed or destroyed in the process.
@lowlaville: Doesn't matter. Tsuna can't travel at the speed of light. He gets caught and obliterated in the AoE.
If you think those are JUST rasenshurikens, you are sorely mistaken. Those are Bijuudamas capable of obliterating mountain ranges with virtual ease. Now multiply that with a Rasenshuriken and that's one hell of a killer.
@lowlaville: Doesn't matter. Tsuna can't travel at the speed of light. He gets caught and obliterated in the AoE.
If you think those are JUST rasenshurikens, you are sorely mistaken. Those are Bijuudamas capable of obliterating mountain ranges with virtual ease. Now multiply that with a Rasenshuriken and that's one hell of a killer.
even more than mountain range, the debris from the destroyed meteors was already mountain range and the explosion from one of those bbrasenshuriken was multiple times the size of a complete meteor
@ratava: The size of those Rasenshurikens don't matter. Oath flame can absorb anything Naruto can throw.
@lowlaville: Doesn't matter. Tsuna can't travel at the speed of light. He gets caught and obliterated in the AoE.
If you think those are JUST rasenshurikens, you are sorely mistaken. Those are Bijuudamas capable of obliterating mountain ranges with virtual ease. Now multiply that with a Rasenshuriken and that's one hell of a killer.
Tsuna is fast. You better believe it. Even pre UDW mode, Tsuna was escaping black hole level gravity. Of course he didn't have near that level reaction back then.
Tsuna reach FTL speeds in this arc but not reaction speed, which is what he gains in the final arc. To even resist black hole level gravity before going FTL is speed Naruto dont come close to begin with.
Now, Tsuna can do something like this to finish off Naruto with ease.
Tsuna is on a different leage. Naruto may have the obvious power advantage but thats not helping Naruto here. Tsuna is too fast.
@ratava: The size of those Rasenshurikens don't matter. Oath flame can absorb anything Naruto can throw.
@lowlaville: Doesn't matter. Tsuna can't travel at the speed of light. He gets caught and obliterated in the AoE.
If you think those are JUST rasenshurikens, you are sorely mistaken. Those are Bijuudamas capable of obliterating mountain ranges with virtual ease. Now multiply that with a Rasenshuriken and that's one hell of a killer.
Tsuna is fast. You better believe it. Even pre UDW mode, Tsuna was escaping black hole level gravity. Of course he didn't have near that level reaction back then.
Tsuna reach FTL speeds in this arc but not reaction speed, which is what he gains in the final arc. To even resist black hole level gravity before going FTL is speed Naruto dont come close to begin with.
Now, Tsuna can do something like this to finish off Naruto with ease.
Tsuna is on a different leage. Naruto may have the obvious power advantage but thats not helping Naruto here. Tsuna is too fast.
that feat was debunked many times, those gravity spheres doesnt emit gravity as strong as a real black hole
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