EOS Sasuke vs Saiyan Saga Goku and Vegeta (read op)

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#1  Edited By Chronicplane

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Stipulations:

  • Sasuke is bloodlusted and wants them dead, completely serious and determined to win at all costs
  • Saiyan's are in-character, tho are not pulling their punches either
  • Win by any means bar BFR
  • Goku starts with Kaioken Ken x2 and can go higher(max during Saiyan Saga), Vegeta is at his normal power level
  • No prep, Sasuke has knowledge of his opponents
  • Sasuke has all abilities, no restrictions (i.e, genjutsu, rinnegan ect)
  • Starting distance is 200 feet apart from eachother and are visible
  • Fight takes place where Goku fought Vegeta
  • Saiyan team has teamwork, despite their differences will get alone with eachother and work together
  • Fight takes place on an indestructible planet

Bonus Round:

Speed Equalized, same rules apply.

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#2  Edited By LimitlessSigil

Vegeta planet busts

Edit: Did you make the planet indestructible after I posted this lol?

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Saiyan Saga? I'm one of the guys who believe EOS Naruto and Sasuke can beat Saiyan Saga characters comfortably, and if you wanted to lowball they can stand a chance.

These versions of Goku and Vegeta are nowhere near as durable and tough as their Namek Saga counterparts.

With no restrictions on Sasuke's techniques, genjutsu immediately takes them out.

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Vegeta planet busts

Edit: Did you make the planet indestructible after I posted this lol?

He wants the Naruto character to win lol

OT: Either Saiyan solo.

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Genjutsu gg amaterasu gg

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Sasuke could hax out a win but they could also nuke him to death. Either side would have the same level of difficulty with their win method; none. So it’s anyone’s game really.

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#9  Edited By LoveEveryone

Valley Of End Biju Susanoo Sasuke could possibly beat both of them individually, but not together.

Goku and Vegeta didn’t have EOS Sauce level of speed and reactions until Namek, so they aren’t tagging Sasuke at all. As Saiyan Saga Goku was calced at Mach 30, far slower than EOS Sasuke.

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Sasuke can't beat either Saiyan individually and is largely susceptible to a one shot.

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Vegeta planet busts

Edit: Did you make the planet indestructible after I posted this lol?

Even if the planet is indestructible, a power which possesses planetary measurement will still one-shot everyone in Naruto.

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#12  Edited By LoveEveryone

@vegetasan: Sasuke is faster than duo by a lot but Vegeta and Goku should have the power advantage. Still speed is a big factor here since Sasuke is too fast to be hit by Vegeta and Goku’s attack’s in Saiyan Saga. Sauce is not getting tagged against anyone in Saiyan Saga period.

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Sasuke

Easily

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Sasuke stomps. They don't have the speed to tag Sasuke nor do they have the reactions to avoid a speedblitz.

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Sasuke murders them. Amaterasu and genjutsu

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#16  Edited By Gaoron

Saiyans stomp, Sasuke is way too slow to keep up, he couldn't even dash multiple meters in time Sakura yelled multiple words. Vegeta points at him and Sasuke goes squash.

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#17  Edited By Gaoron

Sasuke murders them. Amaterasu and genjutsu

@revold said:

Genjutsu gg amaterasu gg

Amaterasu is not doing anything. Kid Goku literally baths in it lol

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Sasuke low-mid diff at most. Neither Goku or Vegeta have the stats to fight with perfect susanoo or the speed to tag Sauce with ki blasts(which is their only chance).

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@gaoron said:

Saiyans stomp, Sasuke is way too slow to keep up, he couldn't even dash multiple meters in time Sakura yelled multiple words. Vegeta points at him and Sasuke goes squash.

Sasuke

Easily

Some conflicting opinions, you two should do a CaV on this.

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@gaoron said:
@revold said:

Genjutsu gg amaterasu gg

Amaterasu is not doing anything. Kid Goku literally baths in it lol

Nah Amaterasu's flames can't be extinguished so Goku would just have to burn until he dies LMAO

Nah i was just joking saiyans win I'm actually a DB fanboy in disguise shhhh

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@gaoron: Any evidence to back that up. I remember Goku having to avoid lava on Namek. That's not a good image to have if you believe he can tank Amaterasu.

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@gaoron: Any evidence to back that up. I remember Goku having to avoid lava on Namek. That's not a good image to have if you believe he can tank Amaterasu.

Goku didn't have to avoid it and later on did tank lava in later parts of the Frieza fight.

Also he no sold reentry heat while unconcious/with no ki amping him and as a kid he took heat of rocket engine. Him going kaioken generated heat that caused plasma aswell. Both reentry and rocket engine generate as much or more (especially reentry and plasma generating) heat than lava.

Proving Amaterasu is as hot as lava would be tough aswell since it can't vaporize skin and iron on touch.

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Sasuke wins.

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Sasuke us too slow.

Either saiyin looks at him and wins.

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Lol

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Sasuke wins. Naruto would make a better opponent for these two since he doesn't use genjutsu really.

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@gaoron: Yet him and Naruto crossed an entire country in a matter of seconds and are way faster than king kai Training Goku who is only Mach 30 due to snakeway feat. Mach 30 is slow to Sasuke.

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#30  Edited By Gaoron

@loveeveryone: Full concersation, so more around a minute not seconds. And it was a rather small country. Calculating it would give you double digit mach feat so the same speed as Goku. Difference being Gokus mach 30 feat is an overall number from his 24 hours travel which means he could be way above mach 30 at the start of his trip only to slow down below mach 30 near the end due to exhaustion.

Naruto SPSM speed was reacted by fodder on train aswell so mach 30 isn't really slow to Sasuke by no means if it was he wouldn't be forced to teleport few meters away.

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@gaoron: DBZ retcons a lot of things from DB. If he's able to tank immense heat as a kid but can feel pain from lava as an adult then his DB feat becomes retconned. I remember Goku jumping from lava with his butt on fire. Then there's that time he was burning from Buu's stomach acid.

Actually Amaterasu can and has vaporized steel instantly. It all depends if the user is concentrating the fire or not. If the user just casts the flames then the flames burn at a normal rate. If the user is concentrating and focusing on the target then the flames instantly incinerate the target.

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#32  Edited By LoveEveryone

@gaoron: how did fodder react when they couldn’t even see what was going on only a yellow flash passed them. They didn’t know it was Naruto. They even ask “what was that” also Naruto and Sasuke crossed that country in base form. Not even using full power. While Goku who took a senzu bean after arriving on earth, needed nimbus to arrive on battlefield when even KCM Shadow Clone Naruto made it to all parts of the world with his clones in just a short day. And SPSM is way faster than KCM. Let’s not also forget in War BM Narurto ran so fast that he threw 5 Biju Dama energy blasts, off course. Imagine Goku running so fast he deflected energy blasts that were thrown at him, off pure speed. That’s insane. Naruroverse is known for their speed. Even Sasuke Kirin is way faster than Goku Mach 30 speed.

Also if you want to get technical Bulma and others have reacted to Goku speed multiple times, when she is just a human.

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#34  Edited By vegetasan

@loveeveryone:

Sasuke is faster than duo by a lot

Based on?

but Vegeta and Goku should have the power advantage

They definitely do.

Still speed is a big factor here since Sasuke is too fast to be hit by Vegeta and Goku’s attack’s in Saiyan Saga

Sasuke isn't as fast here as he is in your fanfic. Both can easily tag and one shot him.

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@gaoron: Yet him and Naruto crossed an entire country in a matter of seconds and are way faster than king kai Training Goku who is only Mach 30 due to snakeway feat. Mach 30 is slow to Sasuke.

Wish I had seen this before responding. You don't know even know the difference between combat speed and travel speed. This isn't a race.

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Goku and Vegeta, I can't honestly see how they would lose?

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#37  Edited By LoveEveryone

@vegetasan: Okay this is two vines vs one totally unfair but I don’t mind the handicap.

It’s powerscaling time. Based on the fact that 8 Gates Gai pure speed can distort space, which Madara could barely keep up with, and the same no a stronger and faster 10 Tails Madara got speedblitzed by Sauce lol. https://goo.gl/images/MDqQ2m

https://goo.gl/images/S3b3BV

This feat faster than anyone in Saiyan Saga.

React to lightning https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/674/3

Mach 499+

Can instantly teleport

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/681/4

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/674/9

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/674/10

EOS Naruto characters are Relavistic speed

Reached the level of SO6P Hagoromo

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/696/8

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/696/9

Contributing half the power to this explosion

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/697/3

So it all comes down to what I said before. Goku and Vegeta have the power advantage but NOT the speed to tag Sauce with it. Like USSJ trunks vs cell. Sauce is not a DBZ character that would arrogantly sit there and try to tank a attack. It could be a stalemate unless Vegeta just goes ape. Cus what’s the use of a Galick gun or Kamehameha x 4 at that level when Sauce can easily dodge those attacks.

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#38  Edited By Gaoron

@artoriasabysswalker: Goku can still tank temperatures of lava and above easily even if he feels it.

And amaterasu failed to vape samurais armors and knocked out Karin so it's less hotter than lava.

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@gaoron: Saiyan Saga Goku isn't tanking Amaterasu. Also, what does the speed of something burning have to do with how strong it is? Just because Amaterasu doesn't burn at an accelerated rate doesn't mean its weaker than lava. Hell Naruto laid face first in lava in part 1.

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@chronicplane: Sasuke has greater overall speed and maneuverability, and his Sharingan fills in the overall skill gap between Them and their overall piercing durability is not beyond Sasuke’s capability. So he can indeed injure them and potentially kill them if he hits enough vital organs.

And although they do have planet busting attacks (one planet busting attack each), Sasuke can easily evade and dodge them by switching places with one of the saiyans.

One thing he could potentially do, is irritate them and jump around them, forcing them to use their stronger attacks, before switching places with the other Saiyan so he can easily injure one of them, before stabbing the other in the chest or head.

However, this would require Sasuke to always be one step ahead of them both, which seems too difficult for him alone. So I’ll give it to the saiyan Bros.

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Are people trying to wank PS and Amaterasu?

Even his bijuu amped PS didn’t survive an explosion that was country busting at most, and Amaterasu hasn’t really been shown to cause much damage unless shaped into arrows which will be dodged.

Team stomps, sasuke’s only chance is genjutsu assuming they do t have a sixth sense

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@limitlesssigil said:

Vegeta planet busts

Edit: Did you make the planet indestructible after I posted this lol?

Even if the planet is indestructible, a power which possesses planetary measurement will still one-shot everyone in Naruto.

This.

Making the planet indestructible is redundant. Like nuking someone in an indestructible room. The person still dies.

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@gaoron: how did fodder react when they couldn’t even see what was going on only a yellow flash passed them. They didn’t know it was Naruto. They even ask “what was that”

Fodder still saw him which is not impressive compared to even Kid Goku who was moving so fast he was invisible in real time to only fodders but hypersonic chars aswell.

also Naruto and Sasuke crossed that country in base form. Not even using full power.

Cool, Goku wasn't either. He still has kaioken.

While Goku who took a senzu bean after arriving on earth, needed nimbus to arrive on battlefield when even KCM Shadow Clone Naruto made it to all parts of the world with his clones in just a short day.

What world? It's all a mid sized continent. And traversing it in a day wouldn't be even supersonic feat. Goku swam half the planet in a day or so as a kid.

And SPSM is way faster than KCM. Let’s not also forget in War BM Narurto ran so fast that he threw 5 Biju Dama energy blasts, off course. Imagine Goku running so fast he deflected energy blasts that were thrown at him, off pure speed. That’s insane.

I don't remember that feat but it seems unquantifiable. Show me Sasuke being invisible in real time, that's an insane feat since to do that you wouls need to be close to light speed so photons don't reflect out of your body.

Naruroverse is known for their speed.

Not really, Bleach is way faster atleast in terms of travel. One Piece has a light speed character in form of Kizaru aswell.

Even Sasuke Kirin is way faster than Goku Mach 30 speed.

What has Sasuke kirin to do with his travel speed. Goku was faster than lightning in combat before DBZ even started. After King Kai training he blitzed Nappa who is low relativistic and had long battle sequence with Vegeta in a span of a kaioken burst which lasts a heartbeat, ~ 0.2 second. Teen Sasuke has no combat feats to compete with those.

Also if you want to get technical Bulma and others have reacted to Goku speed multiple times, when she is just a human.

It only means she got faster perceptions or learned how to sense ki over the years because Goku was straight invisible with pure speed to her in DB.

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@gaoron: Saiyan Saga Goku isn't tanking Amaterasu.

By feats he is, sorry.

Also, what does the speed of something burning have to do with how strong it is? Just because Amaterasu doesn't burn at an accelerated rate doesn't mean its weaker than lava.

That's exacly what it means. Higher heat evaporates stuff faster. Amaterasu failed to vape armor and even knocked out skin of Karin while lava would do that on contact.

Hell Naruto laid face first in lava in part 1.

That must have been filler since Shippuden Naruto in cloak yelled in pain how it burns him when lava slightly touched his body.

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@gaoron: There are no feats for that. Again, DB feats are separate from DBZ feats. Too many inconsistencies.

No, the speed of something burning has nothing to do with potency or heat. Especially when applied to a fictional universe. You're applying science way too much here.

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@gaoron: Kid Goku ? Lol HOW did Kid Goku get dragged into the conversation ? Kid Goku was like Mach 1. Even Mach 1 is faster than human eyes up close. Kid Naruto was faster than kid Goku as a kid. He was Mach 5 at least, and with fox chakra he could blitz Sasuke under water which is a huge feat for a beginning of the series character.

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#47  Edited By GXrevs06

Either of the Saiyans would body Sasuke. You would need to do some serious wanking to put Sasuke on a higher level than characters who can casually bust moons and small planets. Naruto. Sympathises are constantly trying to push their high tiers well into the Frieza arc when they’re simply outclassed by this point.

And lol @ amatarasu doing anything to the saiyans. Goku was no selling lava as a kid. Amatarasu failed to hurt Karin and through a samurai’s armour. It’s easily one of the most wanked techs in Naruto.

Vegeta one shots him with planet level galic gun.

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@gaoron: Kid Goku ? Lol HOW did Kid Goku get dragged into the conversation ? Kid Goku was like Mach 1.

No incarnation of Kid Goku was mach 1. BoS Goku was below subsonic only to get an upgrade to hypersonic after Roshi training.

Even Mach 1 is faster than human eyes up close.

Maybe a bullet, if a human danced about a dozen meters away from you at mach 1 speeds you would still clearly see him or atleast a clear blur of him.

Kid Naruto was faster than kid Goku as a kid. He was Mach 5 at least,

Goku after Korin outspeeded Tao who was atleast mach 14 and after he got 2 additional amps, one of which let him blitz characters that were blitzing his mach 14++ version. And at the end of his younth he trained to be faster than lighting. Mach 5 is nothing to Kid Goku.

and with fox chakra he could blitz Sasuke under water which is a huge feat for a beginning of the series character.

Nothing peak Kid Goku couldn't replicate.

@gaoron: There are no feats for that. Again, DB feats are separate from DBZ feats. Too many inconsistencies.

No, the speed of something burning has nothing to do with potency or heat. Especially when applied to a fictional universe. You're applying science way too much here.

So you have no arguments left and resorted to trolling. Cool, concession accepted.

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#49  Edited By El_directo_

Hmmm this battle is way too much in favour of sasuke, am suspecting the OP's intention here. Ignoring the many conditions already favouring sauce but The fact that he gave sauce knowledge but the saiyans dont get one is what makes me question this thread.

Anyways OT: Sasuke could end this with genjutsu since team have no knowledge they easily fall prey, but even if we were to say they would break out of it by raising their KI which would work, it would be too late and sauce woulda done his damage.

However if the saiyans have knowledge, then this battle could be won by any of the duo solo. Am wondering why some people think sauce is faster when a pissweak picolo was blowing up the moon from the earth IN FREAKING SECONDS! Nothing in naruto beats that speed; and pissweak raditz could dodge that attack(slightly) at point blank, giving him relativistic reactions, nappa was stronger(& faster) than him, and vegeta was league ahead of both of em. Vegeta is already a solid planet buster by that time with nearly Light speed, goku was equal to him as well.

Sauce is like continental+ with subrel speed. Not to mention freaking oozaru that raises vegeta stats TEN TIMES. Sauce gets splattered honestly.

Saiyan saga vegeta/goku can take on both nardo&sauce and still win(albeit maybe not easily).

If the duo had knowledge then this becomes a mismatch in their favor. But if they don't sauce takes this from the go.

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Why, oh why is Amaterasu being wanked? It’s not that hot and it’s best feat was making the juubi and hachibi scream, which is mainly due to the fact that it doesn’t stop burning.

Now people are wanking Kirin too in a fight like this.