EOS Mori Jin vs DBS Anime Beerus

VS

Rules:

- Win by any means ( Death, KO, Incap, BFR, Sealing, etc )

- Canon feats only ( Anime for Beerus and Webtoon for Mori )

Beerus hakai him.

@estrelladeleon: Hakai erased him from existent. Erasing a character that beerus can fold into pretzel means nothing. Beerus can also resist EE.

@estrelladeleon: How potent is the EE

@estrelladeleon: Seems you need someone like Zeno to fight Mori in that case.

@estrelladeleon: Karma itself in the verse isn't conceptual. It's like a cycle of causality isn't it ? Like isn't it based on Buddhism ?

That gives him 4D existence erasure but it can't be conceptual

Beerus solos the verse

Mori erases him

Mori could probably erase him but Beerus is way higher into Universal. Unless Mori has regen or whatnot, nothing is stopping any attack from Beerus annihilating him.

What's Nirvana Mori's first move?

Roughly similar speed since I'm not getting into a MFTL+++ wank off competition.

Beerus can erase gag characters. He takes this and then solos the verse.

Beerus blinks the verse

Beerus laughs at this fodder and Says Hakai

Mori is the news shinrabanshoman heh

@biannis: oh man it's insane. The GOH wankers use hype statements, headcanon, theories and leaps in logic to get Mori to higher dimensional. The exact same shit as Shinra.

@applekidthethird: i saw that lmao, imagine if this happen in One piece

none of that stuff is conceptual nature Karma is a concept of hax you are right it’s cycle of causality. Mori doesn’t even know Beerus nature on whether he’s an evil person or not in order to induce Karma a pond him. Also the haxs only Mori has is time stop, sub power of causality manipulation, Malice absorption, karma induce. He doesn’t have existence erasure not sure where people are getting this from.

Shinra has conceptual manipulation with Uni+ AP and immeasurable speed. Now GOH the highballing and assuming is ridiculous lol

bump

Mori

The last thing mori sees

Beerus blinks the whole verse

Mori of course stomps. Everyone here saying "hakai gg" seems to ignore the fact that mori can manipulate causality through karma. How will he get destroyed by hakai when he can simply reverse the effect of it with a thought...unlike beerus who has no counter from being erased from cause and effect, which is far more potent than hakai. (Not to mention his nirvana state is dimensionally transcendent...smh)

Anyway...the oversaturation of mori threads is getting ridiculous. It's either someone has a vendetta against his massive power up or an extreme fanboy can't help himself. I'm betting on the former

Beerus destroy the entire universe with him

Eos mori wins, way too hax plus his dimensional transcendence should arguably make him untouchable.

Beerus Hakai's

Beerus tbh

@malieke: And what's his win condition

@theregularguy: Hakai because it erases the soul and the being from existence. But if that didn't work he can seal Mori. Mori does have better hax and would win if speed was equal but Beerus is ungodly faster

@malieke: mori in base before ascending nirvana traveled around multiple edges of the universe within a year. Mori after his ascension can exist in past present and future simultaneously above space time.

How is beerus faster than that?

Already explained why hakai wont work. Heck it wont even work on mujin due to having an on panel 2 existence erasure resistance feats

@theregularguy: im certain Beerus scales faster that Gas who traversed the Universe in 20 Minutes.

Does Mori actually exist in all of the past, present and future and exist above time and space ? Or does he just have access to Nirvana. Because i thought he got married and was on Earth at the end of the series.

I don't know much about GOH

Karma itself is a concept. A simple google search gives you that. Or you can just refer to the part where it also covers over destiny, fate, cause and effect.

Mori erases Beerus.

@nixtollo:

Karma itself is a concept. A simple google search gives you that.

Yeah we know but he only induce Karma. Has causality manipulation due to it.

Or you can just refer to the part where it also covers over destiny, fate, cause and effect.

Since we does Mori has Fate manipulation? So far he only has Karma inducement and Causality manipulation. Plus Mori wouldn’t be able to hit Beerus anyways. Beerus too fast and too strong

When did I say manipulating karma makes you 4D?

And no, they are not all the same. Karma envelops those 3 concepts, grouping them all is simply wrong. Being able to manipulate said concepts is a better showing than any of what Beerus has done.

Being able to use the concept of Karma gives him rather potent conceptual manipulation. Karma envelops destiny, fate, cause and effect, and all that jazz. Being able to break free from the karmic cycle that Tathagata put on Mori, and then breaking free from it gives me manipulation of Karma.

I disagree with him being faster but it wouldn't matter as Mori never aimed at Mubong when he did his perfect kick, instead he aimed at the universe, which still affected Mubong. Would give him enough coverage to affect Beerus as well.

Anyway, thats it from me. See ya, we most likely won't agree on it anyway.

well said

I thought the most accepted view regarding conceptual manipulation in vs matches was either creating or erasing concepts from a universe or time line. Erasing a time line would be conceptual manipulation since the concepts of time and space are erased along with the time line. Another example would be pre retcon beyonder erasing the concept of death from the Marvel multiverse and we literally see the affects were nothing could die throughout the multiverse.

Mori ignores Hakai and erases Statue beerus

@superprimetime: You claim you read goh so I'm completely dumbfounded from what I just read.

The entire point of goh is that tatagatha was never the true buddha because he NEVER ACHIEVED NIRVANA LIKE MORI. He was never transcendent like mori in the slightest.

Mori has the feats and the statements from 562 to 569...if you actually cared to look you would see it. But it seems to me you don't so I wont bother.

At least you don't think hes solar system level like a certain someone tho

lol Beerus laughs at him and probably kills him casually.

@malieke: @applekidthethird: Again. Wrong analysis...the avatar being projected is not an ability. It only looks like an obscure avatar to beings beneath him because he dimensionally transcends them. The avatar dying is not a thing lol. He doesn't create avatars of himself, (all he even did was grab a tablet not knowing what it was,) that's just how 3d beings can view him because they can't comprehend his existence that Is beyond space and time.

I already gave you a run down for most of your complaints in the goku vs mori thread. Feel free to debunk me there. Dont really wanna be going back and forth with you on multiple threads.

As for malieke. Yes he does actually...once he reaches the state of nirvana the universe is presented to him as golden tablet (past, present and future timelines) and he can rule over everything. Heck just grabbing one tablet nearly fucked up the characters residing within them. So things like time and space are irrelevant. Plus a statement from xuanzang "you will be a spirit free from the laws of nature" heavily supports this. He didn't get married lol...who told you this

Anyway speed is irrelevant, also jin mori can simply eliminate beerus from cause and effect by uttering the word "destroy" there is no dodging this. Beerus no matter how much you wanna highball him, is still bounded by space and time