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#201 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6625 posts) - - Show Bio

Individually he stops at Juubito.

With Yhwach in the Bonus round I would say that would be a hard fight and a case can be made for both Teams depending of the debater so 50/50

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#202 Edited by ourmanuel (11903 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: the image in the bottom right is taken from the manga where it says “it’s 500 times faster”. It’s already confirmed the 13 km part, so Aizen no doubt must’ve been told something different and thus, we have no real reason to believe he lied to ichigo.

The fact that the data book entry only says it’s faster than the speed of sound doesn’t disprove the Mach 500 part.

Asides from that, I see there is no other way to convince you.

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#203 Posted by silentNightz (589 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Ichigo; vastly superior physically

R2: Ichigo; AP is more than what Hashirama can handle

R3: Ichigo; physically superior, Getsuga Tensho wrecks Madara

R4: Either way; TSOs are hard to counter. Ichigo plays his cards right and he could win with a big finish

R5: Ichigo; faster if not stronger. Piercing damage doesn’t suit Naruto well

R6: Hard to call, Ichigo May be able to deal 1v1, but Naruto and Sasuke make a nasty pair, especially thanks to Sasuke’s abilities.

BR: Unnecessary, Yhwach and Ichigo destroy. Yhwach rips out Sasuke’s Rinnegan in another future, the fou commence to wreck shop from here

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#204 Posted by JuzaCloud (3558 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears

Ichigo too strong in h2h. Neither Naruto in kurama or sasuke in susanoo can clash with him, they would be too slow inside those avatars anyway. And they definitely can't fight him outside of those avatars either.

Naruto strongest full powered punch (against toneri) isn't even stronger than a casual dangai swing.

Bijuu Rasenshuriken? Ok, EOS Ichigo either cuts through them like butter or tanks them. Dangai Ichigo could tank a couple bijuu rasenshuriken before dying.

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#205 Posted by Azureus (2699 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: the image in the bottom right is taken from the manga where it says “it’s 500 times faster”. It’s already confirmed the 13 km part, so Aizen no doubt must’ve been told something different and thus, we have no real reason to believe he lied to ichigo.

The fact that the data book entry only says it’s faster than the speed of sound doesn’t disprove the Mach 500 part.

Asides from that, I see there is no other way to convince you.

Oh Joviolma showed me already, I didn't pay attention to the panels.

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#206 Posted by haxcommander (105 posts) - - Show Bio
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#207 Posted by UltimateSage (3109 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: still Juubito

R2: naruto and sasuke

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#208 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6625 posts) - - Show Bio

Individually he stops at Juubito.

With Yhwach, he stops at Naruto and Sasuke.

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#209 Posted by EmperorMode (359 posts) - - Show Bio

^^

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#210 Posted by weebbicboi (1408 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 3

If its SK Yhwach then they clear, if not, then they stop at Juubito

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#211 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1493 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is juubito lower than base SoSP naruto?

He beats both of them though naruto should still be lower

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#212 Posted by NarutoUzumakiMedakaKurokami (184 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Juubito.

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#213 Posted by BrainDrain (390 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Nagato, what is this wank? With Ywach stops and Naruto and Sasuke, where Sasuke solos.

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#214 Edited by MrE (41 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto is indeed stronger than Jūbito, he nearly one shot his superior in Jūdara and only relented because of Guy.

From a pure stat perspective he's better, he's also still able to make use of the Bijū and everything that entails. Such as snatching the Bijū out of Obito with Bijū Rasenshuriken stirring up their chakra.

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#215 Posted by FaradaySloth (10032 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 5

Yhwach solostomps

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#216 Posted by Scythenger (549 posts) - - Show Bio

No one in naruto is beating yhwach with the all mighty. Especially even moreso if yhwach has the all mighty, yamamoto's bankai, and the sterns abilities.