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#151 Posted by Hulkage (5322 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

You're pulling numbers out of nowhere.

There is nothing to suggest that Ichigo got at least 10x faster much less hundreds of times. Gins bankai doesn't expand and that was stated on Panel mid fight.

You can't scale Ichigo off of Kenpachi just because they are in the same tier. Kenpachi has the best physical feats in the verse. Maps had to be redrawn from a side effect of Hashi and Madara's fight. Once again, Ichigo has no feats suggesting he can damage a PS.

Show me where Ichigo has taken mountain level blunt force attacks before. Show me where he has shown blunt force durability far above Madara and Hashirama.

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#152 Posted by universeichigo1 (1828 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkage: first bankai ichigo is strongerthan soul king absorbed yhwach and base ichigo is on the same level as seen here

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this was base ichigo now this is bankai

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yeah so yhwach is far above madara and hashimara and ichigo took multiple hits from this guy

sorry for interupting just wanted to show you how wrong you are

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#153 Posted by Hulkage (5322 posts) - - Show Bio

@universeichigo1: I still see a lot of statements and no actual feats. I've read through Bleach 3 times so I'm asking you to give me on Panel evidence of these "small country level" physicals that fans love to throw around

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#154 Edited by HigherPower (12399 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkage: Don't waste your time with the universeichigo dude bro

I lost 2 hrs of my life I'll never get back debating the same thing

And he tanked a point blank fragor from Aizen, to answer your last question for @alextheboss. It evaporated several large plateau's, which would put it at mountain lvl:

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Ichigo was casually destroying these with sword parry's and I think destroying more than one would put him at mountain

Aizen's fragor evaporated like 3 of these so large mountain possibly, and Ichigo tanked that ploint blank with no damage, and explosions > blunt force

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#155 Edited by HigherPower (12399 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkage said:

@universeichigo1: I still see a lot of statements and no actual feats. I've read through Bleach 3 times so I'm asking you to give me on Panel evidence of these "small country level" physicals that fans love to throw around

they don't exists

Best DC feat in the entire series is kenpachi one-shotting a meteor

And EMS Madara can spam those

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#156 Posted by universeichigo1 (1828 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_vulcan: really I showed you scans and you said don't waste time with me

You can't really disprove any thing I said you just said you didn't believe

Which doesn't matter

They said they could feel ichigo regarding was at the same level as the yhwach which is universal

You are so bais in argument regarding bleach

Because you favor Naruto more

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#158 Edited by linglung (2213 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez said:

@linglung: that was a hyperbole. People get so worked up about statements in Naruto, but they can't obviously tell when something is or isn't serious.

Amaterasu is hot as the sun: hyperbole

Susanoo can destroy the universe: hyperbole

tornado blowing the universe away: hyperbole. I mean, how does that even work?

Kaguya destroying a dimension: that is actually believable, since they were her dimensions, and zetsu was acting like it's happened before.

yeah man,, i know that was hyperbole....

i use that scan because,, some bleach fans "Here" (you know who) always using statement as feat...

like:

Yhwach is universe level or multi universe level,, while he's best feat only created a Large island on the sky...

and hagoromo created a moon,, 384.000 km on space,, while he dying,, (FEAT)

same like naruto and sasuke,, who created a moon,, after fought 3 days 3 night, against edo tensei army, zetsu army, obito, madara, JUUBI , JUUBITO, JUUDARA and KAGUYA... but they still can created a moon after fight all of that monster's and GOD's (FEAT)

and kaguya created 6 dimention's, already destroy another dimention before, try to destroy 1 dimention and created another dimention only in 1 chapter... but failed because Naruto PIS no jutsu (FEAT)

because of that i use statement too (DATA BOOK = KISHIMOTO WORD = CANON),, because that guy say.. stetement >> feat

but about temari feat,, tbh temari has good feat too,, and that is hurt and make a scratch on 3rd raikage body (before 3rd raikage use Lightning armor)... the same 3rd raikage body that can tank Light Speed travel without any scratch (Mabui light speed teleportation jutsu)

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#159 Posted by linglung (2213 posts) - - Show Bio

and wow...

so Yhwach is universal now,, (by statement) and ichigo is universal too....

LOL...

WOW

JUST WOW

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#160 Posted by ValmousXII (439 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 3.

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#161 Posted by linglung (2213 posts) - - Show Bio
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#162 Posted by TheGamemasterShaun (370 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 5

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#163 Posted by utkanflash (2401 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 2. (and even 1 is hard as hell)

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#164 Posted by universeichigo1 (1828 posts) - - Show Bio

None of them have enough power to even feel his spirit of they were to be shinigami

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#165 Edited by UltimateSage (3649 posts) - - Show Bio

Mega BUMP!

Stop at 4..

If he's lucky he stops at 5

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#166 Posted by ovy7 (3266 posts) - - Show Bio

So many of those type of threads getting bumped...

OT: 5 or bonus round with Yhwach MVP

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#167 Edited by AbigorGodofWar (274 posts) - - Show Bio
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#168 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4982 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily.

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#169 Posted by El_directo_ (778 posts) - - Show Bio

Either stops at 4(juubito) or clears. Gauntlet is also out of order. Base 6paths naruto is weaker than juubito.

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#170 Posted by Gilateen (4309 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 4

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#171 Posted by deactivated-5d065fa72d466 (2222 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 3.

Gets stomped at 4 and above.

Bonus: Naruto duo godstomps

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#172 Posted by FaradaySloth (10610 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 5

Bonus Round: Yhwach soloes

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#173 Posted by Wanderez (2189 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichigo clears, then Yhwach proceeds soloing the verse.

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#174 Posted by AizenCT400 (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably stops at round 4 if he can avoid Obito's truth seeking orbs.

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#175 Edited by UltraShaggy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

EOS ichigo clears with mid diff .

Bonus round is STOMP , Ywach easily one shot them , no one from naruto can beat Prime Ywach , he stronger than the soul king .

Also feats , scalings or calcs for naruto and sasuke, and for juubito ?

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#176 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at 1.

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#177 Edited by AlexTheBoss (18452 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkage:

Sorry for the late reply I must not have seen this, lmao.

You're pulling numbers out of nowhere.

There is nothing to suggest that Ichigo got at least 10x faster much less hundreds of times. Gins bankai doesn't expand and that was stated on Panel mid fight.

Actually I'm not pulling numbers out of nowhere. EOS shikai Ichigo is stated to be around dangai level, which is stronger than than the version that fought Gin, and he has his hollow form plus his bankai on top of that, and bankai is confirmed to be a 5-10x boost, add in his power boost, and he has to at least be 10x faster and stronger than the version that fought Gin by in universe statements and logic.

You can't scale Ichigo off of Kenpachi just because they are in the same tier. Kenpachi has the best physical feats in the verse. Maps had to be redrawn from a side effect of Hashi and Madara's fight. Once again, Ichigo has no feats suggesting he can damage a PS.

Kenpachi was matched by Gerard who had his power absorbed by Yhwach who was cut in half by Ichigo.

Show me where Ichigo has taken mountain level blunt force attacks before. Show me where he has shown blunt force durability far above Madara and Hashirama.

Base Yhwach casually pulling ripped a mountain sized castle apart.

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Ichigo took direct blows from a much stronger version of Yhwach.

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A weaker version of Ichigo erased hills with just the shockwave of his casual swings, he easily caught Aizen's blade that ripped up the ground behind him.

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And he survived a direct hit from Aizen's fragor.

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#178 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3857 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimatesage: Are you the bump king?

OT: Ichigo most likely stops at 4. Definitely stops at 5.

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#179 Edited by UltimateSage (3649 posts) - - Show Bio

@worldofruin6: I'm more than a simple bump king, minion!!

I am THE ULTIMATE BUMP GOD!!!😎

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#180 Posted by KingZod (4115 posts) - - Show Bio

Gets stomped at 4

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#181 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Why would he be at least 10x faster, Bankai is at max 10x it's not guaranteed 10x.

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#182 Posted by SkySanji (5195 posts) - - Show Bio

Gets fodderized at 4, lol at 5

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#183 Edited by ourmanuel (12274 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears, and the only problem on this gauntlet would be obito’s TSBs.

he’d still blitz him either way.

Yhwach casually, effortlessly solos both verses in the bonus round

Edit: then again, most people saying he stops at 4 dont’t even believe ichigo is above MHS+ or small island level.

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#184 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18452 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: Because dangai/true shikai Ichigo should already be multiple times stronger than that version of Ichigo.

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#185 Posted by DevoidRuby (406 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily.

Yhwach stomps the gauntlet effortlessly.

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#186 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

he's not getting based Naruto+Sasuke.

He lacks feats in every aspect.

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#187 Posted by KingogKings777 (2264 posts) - - Show Bio
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They solo

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#188 Posted by ourmanuel (12274 posts) - - Show Bio

Must be tough reading the OP...

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#189 Edited by UltraShaggy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: Prove that, "Gin lied about his bankai " thing.

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#190 Edited by UltraShaggy (1199 posts) - - Show Bio
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#192 Posted by SevenDeadlyGOD (196 posts) - - Show Bio

Gets curbed at 2.

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#194 Posted by Azureus (2749 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: you still believe that?

I mean I've only had this discussion twice, and what everyone has told me was that Gin only lied to Aizen, and not Ichigo...yet they don't know what was said to Aizen. Note that the only information we have is what he told Ichigo. Another thing they show me is a reddit post that contain translations from the UNMASKED databook, that says this:

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However when I actually go to 13 BLADEs Gin's databook entry: No such info is stated. We are instead told Gin conceals this information.

Due to these reasons, I don't see why anyone should objectively believe it. I mean it doesn't really mean much in the end, but if there's another source saying backing Gin's claim, I have no problem accepting it.

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#195 Posted by ourmanuel (12274 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: there’s a data book scan floating around somewhere that shows that it was true.

I’ll try finding it.

@leothegreatest @smokak @ovy7 one of you got it?

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#197 Posted by ovy7 (3266 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: there’s a data book scan floating around somewhere that shows that it was true.

I’ll try finding it.

@leothegreatest @smokak @ovy7 one of you got it?

This one?

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#198 Edited by Earendill (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

Get's stomped to 1. MISMATCH to 2. That a suicide.

Those who claim the opposite should come to me with FEATS.

@leothegreatest: Especially you.

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#199 Posted by ourmanuel (12274 posts) - - Show Bio
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#200 Posted by Azureus (2749 posts) - - Show Bio
@ovy7 said:
@ourmanuel said:

@azureus: there’s a data book scan floating around somewhere that shows that it was true.

I’ll try finding it.

@leothegreatest @smokak @ovy7 one of you got it?

This one?

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It verifies the 13 km part, but the bottom part says something else...entirely. It says Kamishini no yari stretches and contracts at the speed at which you clap your hands, and says the speed surpasses the speed of sound.