EoS Ichigo vs EoS Naruto

I guess this is supposed to be sosp version (eos Naruto no longer posseses those abilities)?

If yes, then he wins with bigger versatility

Also, wasn't this already done, like thousand times?

As always, Naruto in a decent fight.

Perceptions change over time, and the last one was made nearly a year ago.

Naruto in a pretty clean fight, probably mid to high diff. Naruto 6/10

Been done 1000 times Naruto still

Naruto, I love Ichigo but without scaling ( which is always very eh regarding characters like these) he doesn't stack up. Physically he can't overpower him and he lacks the versatility.

Naruto isn't impressive without scaling, either.

If only that was true

Feats?

@ssjbatdan: You're confident enough to say he's nothing without scaling but don't know his feats?

That doesn't make sense. If I thought he was only impressive through scaling, doesn't that mean I don't know if he has impressive feats by himself?

Just to burn Naruto fans, I will say ichigo take this with his Hill busting ability.

Naruto still stomps. It won't change.

Ichigo has indeed busted a hill. Naruto remains featless.

Why wouldn't you use reasonable scaling?

As a good example of reasonable scaling, Yhwach told Ichigo he had regain the power he used to defeat Aizen and if you remember, that was Dangai Ichigo who vaped half a mountain with a shockwave from hundreds of meters away.

That is so far beyond any physical feat Naruto has that it's not even funny.

Neither character is particularly versatile. Naruto spams clones, rasengans and dama balls. Ichigo speed blitzes and spams Getsuga in different variations.

@diydeath: Is it reliably calced to 100 meters away?

Ichigo. Power-wise, they are comparable but speed wise Ichigo can be scaled to some pretty insane things.

Still Naruto in a decent fight, it ain't a stomp...using scaling for Ichigo.

The trees in the distance are pretty damn small from the forced perspective and are clearly seen in the backdrop of the mountain which was half vaped. It has to be around 100 meters minim distance or those are some 4ft trees.

Fair enough.

But you have to scale for Naruto, too. He lacks any impressive feats of his own. Unless someone has one?

Actually, while I think Naruto wins because of his versatility, this feat could imply that Ichigo is indeed FTL.

"At that instant to an observer at that point, it would appear as if they're under the illusion that the surrounding environment's time stopped. You may notice that Hikone, who should have been crossing swords in the distance with Kenpachi, was standing right behind Aura. What kind of movement did Hikone use? It can't just be speed. While arriving from that elevation at speed within an instant, Hikone was landing at that spot with raising a single piece of dust. Yet it is a spectacle that even the force of gravity and inertia are distorted by his reiatsu and technique, that most people aren't even able to react immediately in the face of that seemingly beautiful movement. Only one person was capable of reacting. There was no trace of hesitation, even in the middle of crossing blades with Kenpachi, only Hisagi understood that Hikone would go to attack Aura immediately, in order to protect Aura's rear, he stood in Hikone's way.”

This feat is from one of the Novels, which are canon, and Hikone moved so fast that it seemed like time suddenly stood still. Kenpachi reacted to that, and kept up with Hikone, and Ichigo>>Kenpachi. To make time "freeze" like that, you'd have to approach speeds incredibly close to light at the very least. Ichigo is exactly much faster than Kenpachi...

Casually destroying meteors, with the fragments of said meteore dwarfing multiple mountain ranges, is indeed impressive in my opinion...and Ichigo doesn't have any visual feat on that level. I considered scaling for Naruto as well obviously.

I can't find a scan of this. Do you have one?

Finally a match that hasn't been done before

Finally, a comment that hasn't been made before.

The one we've all been waiting for!

@morningstar999: Those orbs are Bijuudamas?

@ssjbatdan:

You're allowed to bump old threads you know.

Don't have to create entirely new ones

Bijuudama-Rasenshuriken or just Bijuu-Rasenshuriken for short.

The one I found of this fight is locked. And is technically a different thread.

You know what we need now?? A "Saiyan Saga Goku vs Naruto" one, it would be something new for once...

@morningstar999: So, those calc his energy projection AP at country level. Ichigo still dwarfs him in physical AP, so far.

Do those energy attacks move quickly enough to hit an on-guard Ichigo?

Naruto wins, this'll never change

@ssjbatdan:

Where do you have both of these characters in AP and speed?

I dunno. I like to just ref the debates. But it looks like Ichigo's physicals are better, so far, and Naruto's energy projection is better. However, since Ichigo's Getsuga seems to scale above his physicals, there might be an argument there.

It takes monumentally more energy to vape half a mountain with a shockwave from 100+ meters away that it would take to fragment a meteor. People really, really don't understand how much energy dissipates through the air, which makes this feat really, really strong.

Both verses are lacking in talent on a large scale, plus Naruto's feats on the panel are above any payline I've ever seen on Bleach.

OT: Naruto

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@morningstar999 said:

Still Naruto in a decent fight, it ain't a stomp...using scaling for Ichigo.

But you have to scale for Naruto, too. He lacks any impressive feats of his own. Unless someone has one?

Casually destroying meteors, with the fragments of said meteore dwarfing multiple mountain ranges, is indeed impressive in my opinion...and Ichigo doesn't have any visual feat on that level.

I can't find a scan of this. Do you have one?

This is Shikai Kenpachi though

EoS Ichigo should logically scale above him in physicals

Shaq stomps both for scaling to Big Show/Kane tier in WWE

And which is Ichigo and which is Naruto in this analogy?

@wushu59: Oh, I just noticed he did that with one eye, too. In your opinion, is EoS Ichigo often unfairly lowballed?

Nothing has changed. Naruto one shot.

Have around the same stats

Naruto takes it with like Mid-High Diff due to hax advantage

Lol, he is both highballed to heaven and lowballed to the lowest pits of hell...

naruto still wins

Wish there was a like button. Most people just don't understand Ichigo's feats because they don't understand basic physics. Such as air resistance to shockwaves.