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#1 Edited by Alakemega123 (1876 posts) - - Show Bio

Takes place in skypeia.

Start 250 feet away

They know the basics about each other's powers

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#2 Posted by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy by feats.

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#3 Posted by Terrortuga (2135 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by Alakemega123 (1876 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343: could doffy get past Enel's haki

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#5 Edited by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

@alakemega123 said:

@leo-343: could doffy get past Enel's haki

Yes, since his haki predicted attacks from an exponentially faster Luffy than the one Enel fought.

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#6 Posted by saikyo3000 (293 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel stomps uber hard.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-57d17bdd0bd36 (2291 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on feats Doflamingo stomps him.

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#8 Posted by Captain_Redfists (631 posts) - - Show Bio

DD via speed blitz

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#9 Posted by homicidalmaniac (10895 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy via have better Haki and speed

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#10 Posted by deactivated-5c8c48323d2d9 (2599 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy beats him in a few panels.

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#11 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

could doffy get past Enel's haki

How strong is his Haki?

Doffy is strong enough to perform conqueror of Haki

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#12 Posted by StrictlyAnime (2179 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflamingo through the simple fact that putting him down is extremely difficult; too difficult for Enel.

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#13 Posted by Westwood7 (210 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflamingo one shots

Huge mismatch

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#14 Posted by Alakemega123 (1876 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: Enel's observation haki was incredible it stretched over al of his island or something like that

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#15 Posted by Sy8000 (35227 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflamingo stomps.

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#16 Posted by TheVivas (19446 posts) - - Show Bio

DD.

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#17 Posted by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflmaingo cuts his head off.

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#18 Posted by Nite_Nite (2348 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy speed blitzes

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#19 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

@alakemega123: Doffy can perform conqueror of Haki, Conqueror of haki > any version of Haki

People that can perform Conqueror of Haki have stronger haki than people that can use any version of other Haki

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#20 Posted by Alakemega123 (1876 posts) - - Show Bio

@khael: but not being able to perform conquer haki doesn't mean he wil lose to it. You have to pretty much be fodder to fall for it.

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#21 Posted by Erick_Williams (1150 posts) - - Show Bio

We have to see what lvl is Enel now
until feats for Enel PS, DD stomps

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#22 Edited by Just_Banter (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy without too much trouble.

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#23 Posted by Jiraiya_sageofoil (2313 posts) - - Show Bio

Current sanji would stomp enel. Doffy one shots

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#24 Edited by Claymore1998 (16541 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel is one of the awakened devil fruit users and as such would make sense for him to up there with Duffy.

He also had Haki powerful enough to cover an entire island. Its a shame his most powerful attacks had no effect on Luffy but he did seem unusually more powerful than other villians.

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#25 Posted by loumast (1024 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel is one of the awakened devil fruit users and as such would make sense for him to up there with Duffy.

He also had Haki powerful enough to cover an entire island. Its a shame his most powerful attacks had no effect on Luffy but he did seem unusually more powerful than other villians.

Enel definitely has a chance but how is he awakened? Pretty sure he's just a regular Logia type. Also pretty sure there hasn't been an awakened Logia type as of yet. Just... the impel down animals and Doffy iirc? And Doffy has haki too. Pretty obvious that Doffy can't see as far a radius as Enel, but there's no real reason to think that Enel's observation Haki would be that much more effective. In addition Doffy has conqeror's haki and armament haki, so Doffy could actually fight and defend against Enel's Logia powers.

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#26 Edited by Unspokenkiz (126 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel came too soon if he ever shows up again im sure he will be one of the strongest characters in the verse but by feats and scaling doflamingo takes this.

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#27 Edited by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird

Enel didnt get blitzed. He was under the impression that Luffy's punches wouldn't effect him so he stood still. You should rematch the fight your memory seems to be a bit foggy on the details. The golden ball thing happend after enel turned into the giant

Yet it wasn't the first time he got tagged. He turned into a giant...so what? Does that mean he couldn't pseudo teleport as lightning anymore? Did his reactions and thought processes that would have enabled him to pseudo teleport take a hike because he got fat?

And he got blitzed here so...yeah. 'Must evade' couldn't evade. Try bringing up he was injured as an excuse, tons of One Piece characters have managed to not get blitzed even when injured.

That thing you posted of lufy doding his attacks. I mean sure Luffy dodged but. Luffy shut his brian off and couldn't attack back in that mode.

Not the point, he shut his brain to rely on pure reaction and Enel couldn't predict his moves ergo Enel's raw combat speed without Mantra is too slow to tag a pre gears pre-timeskip Luffy, his combat speed is poor. That's clearly demonstrating Enel's poor combat speed, you're talking about him fighting someone faster than post-timeskip Gear 2 Luffy when he struggles to tag pre-timeskip no gears Luffy? Um...what? He doesn't get blitzed before he can do anything because why again?

When i say luffy couldn't touch him I was referring to ....

Oh but he touched him here didn't he. And here he's matching his combat speed and blocking/countering without turning his brain off.

Enel also wont have to use a spear on Doffy he will use his Lightning which Doffy has no answer for. Enel wins against him.

Enel gets utterly stomped by Doflamingo, the speed gap is horrendous, throughout the fight it was proven Luffy and Enel had comparable combat speed. A pre gears pre-timeskip Luffy had comparable combat speed, let that sink in.

Doflamingo blitzes Enel's head off and there's nothing he can do about it, scans don't lie, videos don't lie, based on feats Enel cannot react to Doflamingo, even if he was matching pre-timeskip Gear 2 Luffy he still wouldn't be able to react to Doflamingo, even if he had post-timeskip Luffy's speed he would be hard pressed to react to Doflamingo, see the speed gap?.

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#28 Posted by LimitlessEdge (2228 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel murders.

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#29 Posted by deactivated-57d17bdd0bd36 (2291 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel gets murdered.

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#30 Posted by grappolo (2980 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel dies badly, lock this mismatch.

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#31 Posted by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343: So annoying to argue with someone who side steps when they are proven wrong and ignores plain as day facts. You need look up the definition of a speed blitz for your own sake. Have fun arguing with yourself.

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#32 Edited by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

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@leo-343: So annoying to argue with someone who side steps when they are proven wrong and ignores plain as day facts. You need look up the definition of a speed blitz for your own sake. Have fun arguing with yourself.

Bye bye! Thank you for the laughs you really didn't disappoint. 'Plain as day facts' oh You are killing me xD

You've failed to counter any other points, failed to come up with a good reason why Doflamingo doesn't blitz and win, this may as well be you conceding.

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#33 Edited by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

@strictlyanime said:

Doflamingo through the simple fact that putting him down is extremely difficult; too difficult for Enel.

So I guess this doesn't matter?

Counter-shock ( I wonderhow this attack which cause blood to shoot from Doffy will compare to an El-thor)

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People always underrate Enel but the fact is He uses lightning which Doffy wont be able to dodge.This wont be h2h and Enel has SUPERIOR observation haki feats so it will be hard for Doffy to fly up and punch him without at least tagging him and throwing off his Mantra first. Considering Enel has knowledge of Doffy. I doubt he will get the chance. Enel wins.

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#34 Posted by deactivated-57d17c2439784 (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflamingo obviously

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#35 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (17515 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel came too soon if he ever shows up again im sure he will be one of the strongest characters in the verse but by feats and scaling doflamingo takes this.

Agreed, too bad he's living on the moon now lol.

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#36 Posted by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

If Enel had Armament Haki, the outcome would be different but it is not.

Mingo defeated him via haki.

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#37 Posted by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

@nefarious: If Enel had armament Haki he would still get blitzed before he thought to use it.

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#38 Edited by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343 said:

@nefarious: If Enel had armament Haki he would still get blitzed before he thought to use it.

That is why speed needs to be equalized.

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#39 Posted by ALMIGHTY (3330 posts) - - Show Bio

Doflamingo stomps unless Enel has gotten tons stronger post timeskip

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#40 Posted by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343: If Enel had haki and skill on par at least with an admiral then ... well ... that would be pretty damn cool.

I want to see Enel return at some point in the future and be like "Y'all aren't the only ones who trained over the two years." and then proceed to one-shot everything with his OP devil fruit.

Would also like to see him have a bounty in the billions range.

Too bad he's on the moon with that civilization thing.

Now that I think of it, Oda did mention there would be one big battle at the end that would put Marineford to shame. I would imagine that Enel would come back with his new army and join in on the fight too, just 'cuz.

So many ideas!

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#41 Posted by oopsen (569 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel could damage doffy, because his attacks are ridiculous but I don't see doffy losing.

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#42 Posted by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

@almighty said:

Doflamingo stomps unless Enel has gotten tons stronger post timeskip

I dont recall Doffy being immune to, or being faster than lightning. So how exactly does he win? Speed Blitz? Enel uses Haki. H2H? Enel's travel speed is 1/3 the speed of light. The question you should ask yourself is whether Doffy can dodge lightning. Which he cant. What is stopping Enel from disappearing and Dropping an EL-thor on Doffy?

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#43 Posted by DeathHero61 (18766 posts) - - Show Bio

Realistically speaking Enel could win, but at the same time, i don't see how he would survive a single attack from Doffy let alone deal with his ridiculous speed..........

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#44 Posted by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

Realistically speaking Enel could win, but at the same time, i don't see how he would survive a single attack from Doffy let alone deal with his ridiculous speed..........

Haki is how he deals with his speed.

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#45 Posted by ALMIGHTY (3330 posts) - - Show Bio

@enemybird: Kalifa and higher ups in CP9 are faster than lightning and Pre Timeskip luffy is faster than them, post timeskip luffy is way faster than that and with even G2 was blitzed by doffy, Doffy is easily sub realitivistic not to mention he could always use his haki to dodge as well he used it to dodge meteorites from space, he speed blitzes Enel because even tho enel's observations haki has been shown to have a wide range it has never shown to react to hypersonic+ speeds let alone G2 luffy or doffy speeds range does not equal potency. Who cares about travel speed in a fight ? Even if Doflamingo were to be hit by an el Thor he'll easily tank it with or without Arnaments haki doffy has survived tons worse el Thor is at best town level, Doflamigo has tanked mountain and island level attacks El Thor isn't doing anything

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#46 Edited by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

@almighty: "Kalifa and higher ups in CP9 are faster than lightning and Pre Timeskip luffy is faster than them, post timeskip luffy is way faster than that and with even G2 was blitzed by doffy, Doffy is easily sub realitivistic not to mention he could always use his haki to dodge as well he used it to dodge meteorites from space,"

CP9, Luffy & Doflamingo are by quantifiable feats, Massively Hypersonic. But they're not faster than Lightning and you cant prove it.

"he speed blitzes Enel because even tho enel's observations haki has been shown to have a wide range it has never shown to react to hypersonic+ speeds let alone G2 luffy or doffy speeds range does not equal potency."

You're mixing in your own head canon to fit your argument here. Enel's observation Haki is the strongest we've seen in the series by feats. He never faced anyone on Doffy's level of speed but that doesn't mean it wouldn't work on him. I would say that Enel relies on Haki & his devil fruit to dodge attacks so he should be able to get away from Doffy if he needs to. One weakness is his ability to become distracted and lose his mantra. But with Enel's basic knowledge I dont see Doffy surprising him like Luffy did by bouncing attacks off the wall and such.

"Who cares about travel speed in a fight ? Even if Doflamingo were to be hit by an el Thor he'll easily tank it with or without Arnaments haki doffy has survived tons worse el Thor is at best town level, Doflamigo has tanked mountain and island level attacks El Thor isn't doing anything"

Travel speed is important when you trying to dodge or attack.Smoker not being able to catch Doffy in the air is a perfect example of why travel speed is important.Thats pretty obvious I thought.

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Island level? Youre joking right? Doffy never tanked an island level attack. Counter shock seems to do good damage on Doffy. in fact it was used to kill him. According to your logic Doffy shoudn't even feel countershock considering its below island level and yet it cause blood to shoot out of his mouth.

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El-thor isnt even Enel's ultimate attack its a casual one at best. and its much stronger than counter shock.

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Raigou is island level. Doffy cannot tank it. It would kill him or at least require severe string surgery

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#47 Posted by bluesilver (537 posts) - - Show Bio

Doffy wrecks

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#48 Edited by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

Enel's Observation Haki is going to let him deal with Doflamingo's speed when he was matched in speed by pre gears Luffy and tagged multiple times. Seems legit.

It's like saying I can deal with the Flash's speed with my precog even though Spider-Man can match me.

It a make a no sense.

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#49 Edited by cpt_nice (9906 posts) - - Show Bio

What is all this... Doffy stomps.

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#50 Edited by deactivated-57d17bdd0bd36 (2291 posts) - - Show Bio

If he can dodge SOME attacks from Sky Island Luffy he can dodge attacks from Doflamingo. Derp.