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Doffy by feats.
could doffy get past Enel's haki
How strong is his Haki?
Doffy is strong enough to perform conqueror of Haki
Doflamingo through the simple fact that putting him down is extremely difficult; too difficult for Enel.
@khael: Enel's observation haki was incredible it stretched over al of his island or something like that
@alakemega123: Doffy can perform conqueror of Haki, Conqueror of haki > any version of Haki
People that can perform Conqueror of Haki have stronger haki than people that can use any version of other Haki
@khael: but not being able to perform conquer haki doesn't mean he wil lose to it. You have to pretty much be fodder to fall for it.
Enel is one of the awakened devil fruit users and as such would make sense for him to up there with Duffy.
He also had Haki powerful enough to cover an entire island. Its a shame his most powerful attacks had no effect on Luffy but he did seem unusually more powerful than other villians.
Enel is one of the awakened devil fruit users and as such would make sense for him to up there with Duffy.
He also had Haki powerful enough to cover an entire island. Its a shame his most powerful attacks had no effect on Luffy but he did seem unusually more powerful than other villians.
Enel definitely has a chance but how is he awakened? Pretty sure he's just a regular Logia type. Also pretty sure there hasn't been an awakened Logia type as of yet. Just... the impel down animals and Doffy iirc? And Doffy has haki too. Pretty obvious that Doffy can't see as far a radius as Enel, but there's no real reason to think that Enel's observation Haki would be that much more effective. In addition Doffy has conqeror's haki and armament haki, so Doffy could actually fight and defend against Enel's Logia powers.
Enel came too soon if he ever shows up again im sure he will be one of the strongest characters in the verse but by feats and scaling doflamingo takes this.
Doflamingo through the simple fact that putting him down is extremely difficult; too difficult for Enel.
So I guess this doesn't matter?
Counter-shock ( I wonderhow this attack which cause blood to shoot from Doffy will compare to an El-thor)
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El-Thor
People always underrate Enel but the fact is He uses lightning which Doffy wont be able to dodge.This wont be h2h and Enel has SUPERIOR observation haki feats so it will be hard for Doffy to fly up and punch him without at least tagging him and throwing off his Mantra first. Considering Enel has knowledge of Doffy. I doubt he will get the chance. Enel wins.
Enel came too soon if he ever shows up again im sure he will be one of the strongest characters in the verse but by feats and scaling doflamingo takes this.
Agreed, too bad he's living on the moon now lol.
@nefarious: If Enel had armament Haki he would still get blitzed before he thought to use it.
That is why speed needs to be equalized.
@leo-343: If Enel had haki and skill on par at least with an admiral then ... well ... that would be pretty damn cool.
I want to see Enel return at some point in the future and be like "Y'all aren't the only ones who trained over the two years." and then proceed to one-shot everything with his OP devil fruit.
Would also like to see him have a bounty in the billions range.
Too bad he's on the moon with that civilization thing.
Now that I think of it, Oda did mention there would be one big battle at the end that would put Marineford to shame. I would imagine that Enel would come back with his new army and join in on the fight too, just 'cuz.
So many ideas!
Doflamingo stomps unless Enel has gotten tons stronger post timeskip
I dont recall Doffy being immune to, or being faster than lightning. So how exactly does he win? Speed Blitz? Enel uses Haki. H2H? Enel's travel speed is 1/3 the speed of light. The question you should ask yourself is whether Doffy can dodge lightning. Which he cant. What is stopping Enel from disappearing and Dropping an EL-thor on Doffy?
Realistically speaking Enel could win, but at the same time, i don't see how he would survive a single attack from Doffy let alone deal with his ridiculous speed..........
Realistically speaking Enel could win, but at the same time, i don't see how he would survive a single attack from Doffy let alone deal with his ridiculous speed..........
Haki is how he deals with his speed.
@enemybird: Kalifa and higher ups in CP9 are faster than lightning and Pre Timeskip luffy is faster than them, post timeskip luffy is way faster than that and with even G2 was blitzed by doffy, Doffy is easily sub realitivistic not to mention he could always use his haki to dodge as well he used it to dodge meteorites from space, he speed blitzes Enel because even tho enel's observations haki has been shown to have a wide range it has never shown to react to hypersonic+ speeds let alone G2 luffy or doffy speeds range does not equal potency. Who cares about travel speed in a fight ? Even if Doflamingo were to be hit by an el Thor he'll easily tank it with or without Arnaments haki doffy has survived tons worse el Thor is at best town level, Doflamigo has tanked mountain and island level attacks El Thor isn't doing anything
@almighty: "Kalifa and higher ups in CP9 are faster than lightning and Pre Timeskip luffy is faster than them, post timeskip luffy is way faster than that and with even G2 was blitzed by doffy, Doffy is easily sub realitivistic not to mention he could always use his haki to dodge as well he used it to dodge meteorites from space,"
CP9, Luffy & Doflamingo are by quantifiable feats, Massively Hypersonic. But they're not faster than Lightning and you cant prove it.
"he speed blitzes Enel because even tho enel's observations haki has been shown to have a wide range it has never shown to react to hypersonic+ speeds let alone G2 luffy or doffy speeds range does not equal potency."
You're mixing in your own head canon to fit your argument here. Enel's observation Haki is the strongest we've seen in the series by feats. He never faced anyone on Doffy's level of speed but that doesn't mean it wouldn't work on him. I would say that Enel relies on Haki & his devil fruit to dodge attacks so he should be able to get away from Doffy if he needs to. One weakness is his ability to become distracted and lose his mantra. But with Enel's basic knowledge I dont see Doffy surprising him like Luffy did by bouncing attacks off the wall and such.
"Who cares about travel speed in a fight ? Even if Doflamingo were to be hit by an el Thor he'll easily tank it with or without Arnaments haki doffy has survived tons worse el Thor is at best town level, Doflamigo has tanked mountain and island level attacks El Thor isn't doing anything"
Travel speed is important when you trying to dodge or attack.Smoker not being able to catch Doffy in the air is a perfect example of why travel speed is important.Thats pretty obvious I thought.
Island level? Youre joking right? Doffy never tanked an island level attack. Counter shock seems to do good damage on Doffy. in fact it was used to kill him. According to your logic Doffy shoudn't even feel countershock considering its below island level and yet it cause blood to shoot out of his mouth.
El-thor isnt even Enel's ultimate attack its a casual one at best. and its much stronger than counter shock.
Raigou is island level. Doffy cannot tank it. It would kill him or at least require severe string surgery
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