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Posted by StealthGrey (335 posts) 1 month, 10 days ago

Poll: Endgame Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange vs Post-Nukes Doomsday (74 votes)

Team mid-high diff 24%
Doomsday slaughterhouse 27%
Wanda solos 7%
Strange solos 39%

Fight take place near the NY Sanctum

30 meters apart

Wanda is pissed off

No time stone

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#1 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (3211 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange via BFR. Scarlet Witch is a non-factor

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#2 Posted by StealthGrey (335 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange via BFR. Scarlet Witch is a non-factor

She crushes Thanos

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#3 Posted by Soratoumiga (3670 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange and Wanda.

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#4 Posted by eri123 (1742 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet Witch holds him while Strange BFRs him.

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#5 Edited by DiarrheaRegatta (5782 posts) - - Show Bio

@stealthgrey said:
@aka_aka_aka_ak said:

Strange via BFR. Scarlet Witch is a non-factor

She crushes Thanos

The OP isn't supposed to make a thread with a winner in mind or argue for one character over the other

That being said, the team can either BFR or lose. Doomsday's AOE's will pretty much kill both of them.

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#6 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (3211 posts) - - Show Bio

@aka_aka_aka_ak said:

Strange via BFR. Scarlet Witch is a non-factor

She crushes Thanos

So? Doomsday >>> Thanos in every single regard. Add to that the fact that he can one-shot with heat vision

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#7 Edited by AlexTheBoss (18490 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends if Strange can cut him apart with his portals while Wanda holds him. Supposedly in an interview they said he couldn't do that to Thanos' because Thanos' skin was too tough, so he may not be able to do that to Doomsday.

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#8 Edited by Richubs (5758 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparantly Strange couldn't cut Thanos because his skin was too tough according to the Russos (which doesn't exactly make a lot of sense because it sounds like they just pulled shit out to explain who Strange couldn't solo) but their word is the word as long as we don't get some other evidence.

Team loses and gets one shot.

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#9 Edited by EmmaFrostXmen (3094 posts) - - Show Bio

Without BFR Strange is a non factor, although I’m sure he’ll get better feats in his next movie

Wanda can rag doll him, but that won’t kill Doomsday

Doomsday should win (unless you count BFR as a win)

The Teams best shot is Strange opening a portal to the mirror dimension, then Wanda TK’ing him into the portal

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#10 Edited by JediXMan (42876 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange via BFR.

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#11 Posted by EternalDarkFury (2580 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday.

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#12 Posted by Unusual_Suspect (780 posts) - - Show Bio

Wanda was able to dominate Thanos because Thanos is a non-flying, no-ranged brick.

Doomsday is a non-flying, OHGODTHATRANGEDATTACK brick. Wanda gets ragdolled just as easily as when Thanos' ship rained fire upon her.

Strange via BFR seems like the team's best hope, and Wanda isn't useless for that (she just needs to toss him into Strange's portal/Mirror Dimension, not try to tear him apart before Doomsday faceblasts her to oblivion).

I'd give the Team a majority, but not a solid one. Both Wanda and Strange are glass cannons, and without Strange, it's a stomp.

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#13 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2695 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope Doomsday likes the mirror dimension because he's going to take up permanent residence there.

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#14 Posted by Green_Tea (10576 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet rips DD's ass in half.

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#15 Posted by Mrsportsguy13 (133 posts) - - Show Bio

Team.

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#16 Posted by Ice-Breaker (318 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday can't even move in this battle,

-Strange held an entire reservoir of water and transmuted a black hole.

-Wanda held an entire airport tower from a good distance away. She held Thanos, Giant Alien Machines and pushed a space whale.

-Doomsday doesn't even get near team. Not to mention strange has shields,flight+cloning which doomsday can't counter, and portals to move from AOE blast range.

Team stomps mid-Difficulty. Doomsday's AOE isn't that destructive and both scarlet and strange have held worse.

Are we forgetting strange BFRed Loki from several miles away by waving his hand. How does a non-flyer like DD stand a chance?

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#17 Posted by Rockette (6026 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet rips DD's ass in half.

Word!

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#18 Edited by ANTHP2000 (28529 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday, but it'd be beautiful to watch such versatile and powerful spell specialists fighting against such a powerful beast. It'd take a while too.

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5ce6f72d3aec8 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday

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#20 Edited by deactivated-5cdc9a3e08b98 (153 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange could pull off a BFR while Wanda stalls him

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#21 Posted by JDogg (1100 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure DD blitzes and oneshots.

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#22 Posted by panda_emperorix (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

@jdogg said:

Pretty sure DD blitzes and oneshots.

Like he blitzed and one shotted batman......

Oh wait...

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#23 Posted by panda_emperorix (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

Either one could solo this ugly af bridge troll

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#24 Posted by Noone1996 (12072 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by JDogg (1100 posts) - - Show Bio

@panda_emperorix: You mean like he blitz WW and Supes? Lol keep with low end reach.

DD oneshots.

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#26 Posted by TheVVitchKing (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange can do this by himself

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#27 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

Only way for them to win is BFR.

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#28 Posted by reikai (7486 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange doesn't have to solely BFR. He can just use the portals to remove Dumbday's head and limbs. No real fight at all here.

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#29 Posted by jashro44 (53735 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

Strange doesn't have to solely BFR. He can just use the portals to remove Dumbday's head and limbs. No real fight at all here.

The Russos implied in an interview that the portal might not have worked on Thanos because he is really durable. There best feat is taking Cull's hand who isn't as tough as Doomsday.

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#30 Posted by reikai (7486 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Cull was slugging it out with Hulkbuster armor and Hulk in Endgame. I don't see Dumbday as being more durable than him, much less on par with Thanos. And really the Russos would only say that so it didn't seem like Strange could win by himself. Since that'd be rather anticlimactic after already getting beaten the first time around.

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#31 Edited by jashro44 (53735 posts) - - Show Bio

Unpopular opinion but I think Wanda has a shot against Doomsday. I don't really think Doomsday is as fast as superman or wonder woman considering batman briefly evaded him. She was beating Thanos who I think is around Doomsday's level.

With BFR the team wins.

EDIT: I forgot about Doomsday's heat vision. That might give him the edge over Wanda. I need to think about it some more.

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#32 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

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@jashro44: Cull was slugging it out with Hulkbuster armor and Hulk in Endgame. I don't see Dumbday as being more durable than him, much less on par with Thanos. And really the Russos would only say that so it didn't seem like Strange could win by himself. Since that'd be rather anticlimactic after already getting beaten the first time around.

How is cull more durable than DD? DD practically no sold a megaton nuke fell back to earth and instantly got back up.

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#33 Posted by godlyeon97 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange and Wanda win in almost every scenario. If Batman didn't get blitzed, they're not getting blitzed.

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#34 Posted by jashro44 (53735 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

@jashro44: Cull was slugging it out with Hulkbuster armor and Hulk in Endgame. I don't see Dumbday as being more durable than him, much less on par with Thanos. And really the Russos would only say that so it didn't seem like Strange could win by himself. Since that'd be rather anticlimactic after already getting beaten the first time around.

The hulkbuster or Hulk aren't as strong as Doomsday. As mentioned him tanking a nuke is above there pay grade. Cull has also been downed by black panther and had his hammer caught by spider-man and stabbed by Drax. I don't remember him slugging it out with the hulk but the hulk was permanently injured after the snap.

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#35 Posted by King-Ragnar (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

Both could solo fairly easily

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#36 Posted by reikai (7486 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: And Hulk tanked the use of the Infinity Gauntlet. That puts Hulk well above nuke-level. Never mind Dumbday absorbed the radiation so it makes the use of a nuke utterly pointless.

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#37 Posted by pkety (332 posts) - - Show Bio

1st bfr is a thing second y’all really think doomsday would be stepped on and killed by ant man because y’all comparing his durability to cull

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#38 Edited by jashro44 (53735 posts) - - Show Bio

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@jashro44: And Hulk tanked the use of the Infinity Gauntlet. That puts Hulk well above nuke-level. Never mind Dumbday absorbed the radiation so it makes the use of a nuke utterly pointless.

Doomsday never absorbed the nuke. Using the gauntlet basically depends if we assume Tony's statement was hyperbole or not.

Not to mention the snap was mostly gamma radiation which is why Banner said he was "made for this". So Hulk is especially resistant to the energy from the snap.

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#39 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12143 posts) - - Show Bio

Scarlet witch's TK isn't working on Doomsday, he's too durable for her to crush. Without BFR, he can one-shot them with HV or one of those giant ass AoE attacks.

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#40 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12143 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs said:

Apparantly Strange couldn't cut Thanos because his skin was too tough according to the Russos (which doesn't exactly make a lot of sense because it sounds like they just pulled shit out to explain who Strange couldn't solo) but their word is the word as long as we don't get some other evidence.

Team loses and gets one shot.

Source? If you don't mind.

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#41 Posted by Redshift_Bacon (883 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange via BFR. People say he cant chop off limbs but honestly that makes no difference because Strange can just BFR his entire body to Deep Space, or to a Red-Star core. Ez win.

Remove that condition, and they still have options. For instance, Strange can block any attack with the Mirror Dimension, which is also dangerous for Thanos to take a direct hit from (based on him using the Power stone to destroy the attack) SW can Restrain/Hold Down Doomsday, preventing him from using his tremendous H2H and Speed advantage.

Team should take this Low-Diff with BFR or High-Diff 6/10 without.

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#42 Posted by rem (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

Can’t tell if this is just endgame hype or people are really this ignorant.

Uh, Strange and Wanda impressed me but they’re still glass cannons.... an AOE attack would kill them both instantly. Unlike Doomsday Thanos didn’t have heat vision or an AOE....

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#44 Posted by Richubs (5758 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebestofthebest:

Yeah here it is -

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/russos-answers-endgame-questions-spoilers-2018688/

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#45 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12143 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Edited by The_Kidd (12329 posts) - - Show Bio

@rem said:

Can’t tell if this is just endgame hype or people are really this ignorant.

Uh, Strange and Wanda impressed me but they’re still glass cannons.... an AOE attack would kill them both instantly. Unlike Doomsday Thanos didn’t have heat vision or an AOE....

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#47 Posted by N7Elite (99 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs I find that bs for Wakanda shields can cut off his "herleds" hands, and Tony cut thanos with just common earth materials.:

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#48 Posted by N7Elite (99 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday anytime. even if Strange teleports him what good will that do? He needs to react first off and Doomsday is already on bloodlust mode anytime. All it takes is one HIT to kill them. This isn't like Thanos and catching him off guard or confusing him/already pre battle fought. This is a living killing machine that will humiliate the avengers.

Reason why Batman lived is PIS for you can't have batman die like that, and his grapple gun did add in some help. Though much can be said for Tony to tank hits from Thanos if literally the man can break Cap's shield when using his heavy swings. Things to also consider is that if strange uses the cloak to tag Doomsday then it's goodbye cloak for that literally will not survive his aoe and brute strength. Also Doomsday fell from Orbit at alarming speeds that would normally crush anyone's bones and cause instant death. He tanked Superman's more serious punches that can destroy Kryptonian materials that can clear apart buildings without breaking apart. This mean concentrate, reinforced steel, etc were nothing to the ship.

Wanda tries to use her magic she better be ready to move for he will spam it, and will just adapt.

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#49 Edited by JasonFriday (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr strange solo by use portal cut head off / Kryptonians in WoDC are vulnerable to magic.

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#50 Posted by DammeFavour (8495 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday stomps without bfr. They have no way to hurt him