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Posted by Token1300 (299 posts) 1 month, 19 days ago

Poll: Endgame Captain Marvel VS IW Thor VS Scarlet Witch VS Captain America VS Fat Thor (95 votes)

Captain Marvel 29%
Stormbreaker IW Thor 53%
Scarlet Witch 8%
Captain America W. Hammer 2%
Fat Thor W. 2 Hammers 7%

Who wins ?

Battle:

Endgame Captain Marvel VS IW StormBreaker Thor VS Endgame Scarlet Witch VS Endgame Captain America W. Hammer VS Endgame Fat Thor W. 2 Hammers

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#1 Edited by Mad_Jim (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

SB>>>2 Mjolnirs

Fit IW Thor>>>Fat EG Thor

What's EG Thor doing here?

Anyway, EG Wanda>IW Thor with SB>EG Binary CM..

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#2 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18477 posts) - - Show Bio

I think stormbreaker IW Thor can take a slight majority over Captain Marvel, but it would be a good fight. Next comes Scarlet Witch, then endgame Thor with stormbreaker and his hammer, then finally Captain America, but he would give endgame Thor a run for his money.

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#3 Posted by ANTHP2000 (28524 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel > Scarlet Witch > Thor(s) > Cap

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#4 Posted by Token1300 (299 posts) - - Show Bio

From watching the movie i honestly think it’s

1- Prime SB Thor (Infinity War)

2- Scarlet Witch

3- Captain Marvel

4- Cap with Hammer

5- Fat Thor

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#5 Posted by destinyman75 (15139 posts) - - Show Bio

SB Thor

Carol

Wanda

Fat Thor

Cap

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#6 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

For the last time, there is no difference between Endgame Thor and IW Thor at all. Same feats and weaknesses. So Thor wins, period.

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#7 Posted by XLR87T3 (10201 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is more durable than Thor in Endgame, and his strikes are more powerful as well

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#8 Posted by Token1300 (299 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: But there is a gap between Fat Thor and IW Thor. Fat Thor is sort of rusty and not as fit as his self from IW. In fact Fat Thor lost so much power in the 5 years post IW that he could barely keep up with Infinity Blade Thanos who is much weaker than IG Thanos which Prime SB Thor was besting, also his SB went through Thanos IG Beam. So if Fat Thor was still as powerful he would have no problem with Infinity Blade Thanos. But he did.

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#9 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@token1300: What proof is there that he was rusty?

Um no, IW Thor didn't once "best" Thanos. That scene at the end of IW was all Stormbreaker, not Thor. And that IG beam is unquantifiable.

Nope since IW Thor didn't beat IW Thanos.

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#10 Edited by TheWatcherKing (18581 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor or carol

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#11 Posted by FirstFirmament (416 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime Thor no doubt. Doctor Strange should be here instead of EG Thor.

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#12 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (3085 posts) - - Show Bio

If Captain Marvel doesn’t speed blitz Wanda immediately:

Wanda

Captain Marvel

Thor IW

Cap EG

Thor EG

If Carol Speed blitzes Wanda immediately:

Captain Marvel

Thor IW

Cap EG

Thor EG

Wanda

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#13 Posted by Batvibe12 (5762 posts) - - Show Bio

Wanda.

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#14 Posted by Namebk (843 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor wins. Fat Thor just sits on the sidelines and watches his prime self win the FFA.

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#15 Posted by TheTruthIII (3316 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor wins after a grueling battle, only to be sniped by Noobmaster69 who ends up getting the Victory Royale

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#16 Posted by EternalDarkFury (2580 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Edited by JDogg (1100 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor >= CM > Wanda > Fat Thor >> Worthy Cap

Wanda's durability is a huge weakness. She's a glass canon.

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#18 Posted by APEX_pretador (21292 posts) - - Show Bio

How does that make sense? So if Thor throws stormbreaker, then either of the two Thor's or cap can call it back to them?

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#19 Posted by bleidd (340 posts) - - Show Bio

@token1300: What proof is there that he was rusty?

Um no, IW Thor didn't once "best" Thanos. That scene at the end of IW was all Stormbreaker, not Thor. And that IG beam is unquantifiable.

Nope since IW Thor didn't beat IW Thanos.

Please watch the movie ffs. Tony literally said that Thor was too weak and in no condition to wield the Stark gauntlet. I don't remember the exact line but it was clearly implied that prime Thor would've been able to wield it. Also, not once did we see Thor fly or wreak havoc in the whole movie like he he was in IW. This is the weakest Thor has ever been in the MCU (not counting de-powered Thor).

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#20 Posted by bleidd (340 posts) - - Show Bio

How does that make sense? So if Thor throws stormbreaker, then either of the two Thor's or cap can call it back to them?

Yes, because at this point both of them are Thor. Thor is Thor because well, he is Thor. And Cap is Thor because he possesses his exact powers.

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#21 Posted by HellionVulcan (7280 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor or Scarlet win.

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#22 Posted by BrownZeus (980 posts) - - Show Bio

Regardless of reasoning I cant see anything besting IW Thor's SB feat. IG with all stones made thanos the closest being to god so far in the movieverse and Thor bested the primordial power essesces of the past.

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#23 Posted by josephgomes619 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor solos all of them, he tanked a blast from 6 infinity stones.

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#24 Posted by The_Red_Devil (5069 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor should win.

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#25 Posted by Rebake (4561 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see how anyone could say IW Thor = EG Thor when the makers of the film went out of their way to show EG Thor was out of shape and in a bad state mentally.

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#26 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@bleidd: Iron Man never said Thor was "too weak". Great job of pulling that one out of your ass. He only said you're no in condition to use the Gauntlet which doesn't mean anything as Thor 100% believed he could wield it. So basically character statements mean jack sh!t.

Thor did fly in Endgame we just didn't see it. After Cap tossed Stormbreaker back to him he jumped in the air with lighting all around him.

This is actually one of the strongest as Thor one shot Iron Man.

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#27 Posted by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: eg Thor was so far off from iw Thor it was clear to see, even the best and strongest fighters get rusty and weak after a while, Thor did nothing but drink and play games, u saw where he dumped SB meaning he hadn't even used it in years

Thor one shotting ironman is no new thing,as of ragnarok and iw it was clear

Lemme ask u a question in all ur time watching Thor and avengers movies Hav u ever seen Thor not fly or shoot lightings at d enemy ,not once did he shoot lighting or even think to fly against thanos either with SB or d hammer dats speak to his out off battle shape

There was a scene where he grappled with thanos even a normal Thor would Hav called down lighting on thanos but he didn't , he didn't even hit thanos with enough force to cause shockwaves dats something Thor does on his day every time

And yes I do agree with u saying iw Thor is endgame Thor ,but his just rusty , way less skilled, and no more versatile, which would Hav help end d fight a lot quicker ,

Prime Thor>>carol=>wanda(glass)=strange>cap with the hammer

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#28 Posted by TheVVitchKing (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain marvel

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#29 Posted by Lan_Fan (15942 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor wins.

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#30 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@el-kun: Not fighting for 5 years when you've fought for the past 1,500 years does not make you rusty. You know how insignificant those 5 years are compared to Thor's life span of fighting?

Uh yeah, it is a new thing. Thanos couldn't even one shot Iron Man and Thor did it when he wasn't trying to hurt him.

Thor did fly and did shoot lighting in Endgame. He flew after Cap tossed him Stormbreaker and he shot lighting when he was powering up Iron Man's suit and when he destroyed Outriders.

Thor has never called down lighting when he's in H2H combat. Have you people like actually watched any of Thor's fight scenes before because these claims are just dead wrong. Thor never caused shockwaves because he never touched Thanos.

When was Thor ever skilled or versatile in CQC? Thor in Endgame fought how he always fights.

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#31 Edited by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: why u talking like u know nothing about Thor

He called down lighting or shot it against Loki,against hela twice , against thanos in iw, against ultron , against iron man in a1 , against hulk in d arena, ,not once against thanos in end game

Oh skill , against hulk , against hela twice ,against iron man in a1

Thor never needed to touch his opponents , malekith block it just fine yet it still caused shockwaves ,against cap in a1 cap blocked it yet it still caused,

As to one shotting iron man he did dat fine in avengers 1 when stark pissed him off he swatted stark and. Dude was out for seconds, even stark made a comment "u Hav got a mean swing"

So I suggest u go watch Thor fight again d only time fought like he did against thanos was against kurse and he was decimated

Thor didn't just only stop training he was also drinking every single day ,which will wear ur body down, u could even see his body and d dude was always sleeping when not playing games or drinking

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#32 Edited by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@el-kun: You are the one who knows nothing about Thor. Maybe in your head you think you do, but in reality you don't.

Thor has never shot lighting at Loki.

The only time he called down lighting on Hela was when he just found out he didn't need a weapon.

He he shot lighting at Thanos when Thanos wasn't even focused on him and Thanos still no-sold it.

Thor only used lighting on Ultron because Vision used the Infinity Stone beam on him. He didn't use it when they were fighting one on one.

Yes one time against Iron Man.

He didn't even call down lighting on Hulk in the arena the way you're describing it.

Probably because he already saw Thanos no-sell his lighting in IW.

Yeah he never displayed skill against Hulk or Iron Man. And Hela mopped the floor with him.

So is Malekeith the only one he's done that to which happened how many years ago?

He didn't one shot him in Avengers. Thor was already fighting him then he hit him. One shot is when you just need one hit to kill or KO someone. If you're fighting someone then end up KO or killing them you didn't one shot them.

Actually no, Thor fights the same way he always does against Thanos which is to get up close and only use lighting when there's an opening. He didn't have that opening against Thanos in Endgame because Thanos was destroying him.

Can't prove it wore Thor's body down. You're trying to use real world fat people as an example when Thor is a freakin' God. His biology is not the same as regular people.

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#33 Posted by JDogg (1100 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor =/= Fat Thor. It was pretty clear in the movie.

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#34 Edited by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: first of he did an aoe against Loki when Loki stabbed him and went multiple he called down lighting

He called lighting twice against hela d first u just said and d second was after Valkyrie stabbed her he called down lighting and broke d bifrost ,

D dude was evading and countering iron man and hulk in cqc , if dats not skill against d hulk and stark den I dont know wat else to tell u, even in d throne room fight against hela he showed skill

My point is lighting has always been Thor go2 move and against thanos he did nothing of sort , d last time Thor brawled was during his pre ragnarok days ever since ragnarok he showed great skills

One shot is when u knock out a opponent with one hit which is exactly wat Thor did, after cap interrupted d fight stark made a joke about how much Thor loves his hammer, den just before Thor strikes cap shield he swats stark away and d dude was lying out cold on d floor

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#35 Posted by bleidd (340 posts) - - Show Bio

@bleidd: Iron Man never said Thor was "too weak". Great job of pulling that one out of your ass. He only said you're no in condition to use the Gauntlet which doesn't mean anything as Thor 100% believed he could wield it. So basically character statements mean jack sh!t.

Thor did fly in Endgame we just didn't see it. After Cap tossed Stormbreaker back to him he jumped in the air with lighting all around him.

This is actually one of the strongest as Thor one shot Iron Man.

I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. You're using your ass instead of your brain which is what happens when someone has their own headcanon. You are only ignoring the fact that all the Avengers unanimously agreed that Thor in his current condition couldn't wield the gauntlet and taking a drunkard's statement over everyone else's because it fits your own headcanon. Heck, the Russos themselves said in an interview that Thor in this movie couldn't wield the gauntlet which implies that Thor in the previous movies could. So now you have other character's statements and the director's statement. But of course, everyone's statements except Thor's means jack sh!t to you, so there's no point in arguing any further. Bye.

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#36 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@bleidd: And Thor thought he could, so you can't trust any of them which was my point. Character statements mean nothing inculding Thor's.

And yet they never specified why they thought Thor couldn't do it, so come back to me when they explain why.

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#37 Posted by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: I take it u keeping silent is d fact dat u got something wrong , am a huge Thor fan but d fact is he was reduced a lot

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#38 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@el-kun: No, I just didn't get your message, but let me respond since I now see it.

Thor only used the AOE because Loki started duplicating himself. That's the only time Thor has ever used lighting on Loki and it's because he was trying to find the real Loki. Similar to what Thanos did against Strange.

You are right about Hela but again I'm talking one on one. Not 2 vs 1. Thor does call lighting down when he has multiple people with him like he did in Endgame.

Evading isn't skill since Hulk isn't skilled to begin with. All he does is swing his arms around until he hits something. Iron Man isn't skilled either. Against Hela he was getting stomped.

Thor doesn't have a go to move. He simply does whatever he thinks of first. He didn't call lighting down when he fought Loki in the beginning of their fights (didn't use it against him in Avengers), Hulk, Iron Man, Ultron, or Hela. Thor doesn't fight the way you think he does.

That's not a one shot. One shot is when you're about to fight someone and all you need is one punch and the fights over. Thor and Iron Man were already fighting before Thor hit him with Mjnoir again. He also didn't even knock Iron Man out since he was up within 15 seconds. So no one shot no matter which way you slice it.

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#39 Edited by Namebk (843 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks said:

@bleidd: And Thor thought he could, so you can't trust any of them which was my point. Character statements mean nothing inculding Thor's.

And yet they never specified why they thought Thor couldn't do it, so come back to me when they explain why.

A drunk Thor suffering from depression thought he could you mean. He even begs them to let him do something right because he feels guilty for failing.

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#40 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk: That doesn't change anything about what I said. If it anything it even proves my point Thor wanted and knew he could do it because of his depression. In fact, when Thor moved the rings and survived the beam from the Star that was him dealing with his grief through physical means.

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@darthvaderrocks said:

@namebk: That doesn't change anything about what I said. If it anything it even proves my point Thor wanted and knew he could do it because of his depression. In fact, when Thor moved the rings and survived the beam from the Star that was him dealing with his grief through physical means.

It doesn't prove your point. When people are going through mental issues while being drunk they say all sorts of things.

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#42 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk: Except Thor wasn't drunk when he said that. Try again.

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#43 Posted by Soratoumiga (3656 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at IW Thor soloing all of them. Hm, this is a toss up between Wanda, Carol and IW Thor. Depends on who hits first and whether it's in or out of character.

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#44 Posted by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: wat an saying is in every of his movie he shoots lighting and he didn't fire a single one against Thor,

One shot means u Hav d power to take out ur enemy in one hit it doesn't Hav to be ur first hit because for all we know Thor could Hav been holding back

D fact is Thor was depressed , drunk , rusty and less powerful

He didn't even want to come help, he only came cause rocket said Dere was drinks on d plane , even when he was back in time to Asgard all he could think about was drink ,does dat sound like a man in his right frame of mind

In iw when he was talking to rocket he talked about anger, grief, hate and all as motivation he had something to prove, he even talked about thanos not fighting him twice, while in endgame all he knew was to drink, play game, sleep, he even grew fat and his muscles were worn out

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#45 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@el-kun: Nor did he fire one at Ultron, Hulk, or even Thanos in the beginning of IW.

And that's not a one shot. Thor was already hitting Iron Man with Mjnoir and his fist. One shot is one shot. It's you hitting somebody once and they go down. What is difficult to understand?

Can't prove he's less powerful.

And yet he still ended up helping so moot point.

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#46 Edited by dark_globe (682 posts) - - Show Bio

SB IW thor takes majority here .

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#47 Edited by BreakOfDawn (2486 posts) - - Show Bio

IW Thor > CM > SW >> fat Thor >> Cap w/ Mjolnir.

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#48 Posted by supersomething (42 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: what proof? he was a fat alchoholic who seemed drunk the whole movie, do you have eyes?, is this really something the movie allready didnt explain to you? a 12 year old could notice this? just like a normal person ofcourse he is effected by getting fat and drunk, and most off all he was cleary deppressed, this was not the same thor from infinty war, and that was probably becouse he was far to powerfull in that movie

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#49 Edited by darthvaderrocks (1748 posts) - - Show Bio

@supersomething: Thor was never drunk once they went on their mission.

It was the same Thor only bigger.

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#50 Posted by el-kun (765 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: @supersomething: just dont bother with him ,I think he is d only one who didn't see Thor as a depressed alcoholic nd how significantly weak Thor was