every Avenger in Endgame vs DCEU Justice League (with post-JL Supes)
Endgame Avengers Army vs DCEU Justice League
This has been done before and even then it is unfair for the justice league for them to fight an army of super powered individuals.
They do not murder stomp. One sweep of superman's heat vision kills the majority of the avengers immediately. Wonderwoman cuts down the rest by blitzing them the same as she did in her solo movie.
The biggest hitter here is Aquaman. He can literally flood the battlefield as there is a giant lake right next to them and kill almost all the mcu team.
The DC team has too many options to hit large numbers of the mcu team at once with lethal attacks
MCU. Carol could take on Diana and Thor could take on Superman. Hell if any of them get caught by Wanda they are done. Flash wouldn't be much of a problem because this battle would be causing a lot of shockwaves so he would get thrown off his feet a lot. Pretty sure Flash got hit at least once by the Jobbers known as Parademons. Also Strange and Thor can both BFR.
MCU. Carol could take on Diana completely and utterly murder Diana and Thor could take on Superman be so lucky if he even gets to touch Superman let alone beat him.
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OT: I can see MCU winning due to numbers, on the other side I can see DCEU winning because of the largely superior stats.
I'm leaning more to DCEU because there's really nobody on MCU that could rival Clark except maybe Carol.
on the other hand there is Scarlet Witch and Dr.Strange
Strange, Wanda, carol, and Thor gang up on Superman while Ironman, hulk, giant man, Valkyrie, worthy cap, and Spider-Man take care of the rest.
They do not murder stomp. One sweep of superman's heat vision kills the majority of the avengers immediately. Wonderwoman cuts down the rest by blitzing them the same as she did in her solo movie.
The biggest hitter here is Aquaman. He can literally flood the battlefield as there is a giant lake right next to them and kill almost all the mcu team.
The DC team has too many options to hit large numbers of the mcu team at once with lethal attacks
This. The MCU can surely win though.
They do not murder stomp. One sweep of superman's heat vision kills the majority of the avengers immediately. Wonderwoman cuts down the rest by blitzing them the same as she did in her solo movie.
The biggest hitter here is Aquaman. He can literally flood the battlefield as there is a giant lake right next to them and kill almost all the mcu team.
The DC team has too many options to hit large numbers of the mcu team at once with lethal attacks
In the event they dont murderstomp with sheer numbers, they still win comfortably.
outside of hawkeye gamora and starlod, one sweep of superman heat vision kill no one. The superpowered guys can either block it or tank it, and most humans have their own method of defense, either by blocking it (cap america, doc strange, iron man with his shield that blocked a beam from the power stone) or by deflecting the energy (black panther, Wanda)
If wonderwoman tries to bliz the weaker links theres plenty fo characters that can tag her, catch her and beat her up while protecting their teamates, I dont have enough fingers in oen hand to count the heroes of the MCU that could solo Diana, and on top of that she is badly outnumbered.
The scenario is completely devoid of any relevant feature, please, quote the part in which OP states that theres a lake nearby, because i honestly cant see it. The closest thing aquaman could do to what you said is try to spit on a MCU character. Excuse me if im not impressed.
Heck, a 6 cherry picked characters from MCU (cap marvel, thor, iron man, wanda maximov, worthy cap and doc strange) would have a very solid shot at defeating the justice league in equal numbers (6 vs 6). and in OP post they have them badly overnumbered.
Its true that there is a decent number of characters that are considerably weaker than the average JLA member, and those could be swept aside by area attacks, but theres also a decent number of characters that definitely ARE on JLA powerlevel, specially when batman as it appears in that picture is pretty much a non factor.
Carol could take to the air and fight Superman on relatively even ground her perception speed is around his though he still has better reactions and if Thor actually uses his lighting he can electrocute Aquaman if he tries to flood the arena, Flash would be hard but AOE attacks could kill him Thor and Carol could Duo Clark while Scarlet witch can take Diana and Fodder I mean Cyborg but really what did Cyborg even do he would be hard pressed to beat Black Panther. Worthy Cap could fight any of the league though Supes would be a one sided battle. The army is just to much I haven't even mentioned ant man who could take everyone except Diana and Clark or Hulk. Really Cyborg and Batman would be killed easily and Aquaman would get fried if he tried to pull anything Strange would absolutely stomp anyone not named Superman and Wonder woman. Supes and Diana would lose to Carol and Thor do to Diana not being able to fly. Really the Avengers win extremely comfortable The league has nothing on what the avengers was at the end of endgame Superman is good but he's not this good Avengers 9/10.
Not a single person from the MCU team can ever hope to even see or tag Flash and Superman.
If Superman decides to go full blitz it's game over.
This battle is essentially full of tons of street levellers who have no business in this fight. They're pretty much irrelevant because people like Superman, WW and Aquaman won't even feel them if serious.
This is basically -
Flash, Superman, WW and Aquaman vs Thor, Carol, Hulk, Iron Man, Strange and Wanda.
MCU also has some other people like Valkyrie, Warmachine and Giant Man but they're not suited to fight against Justice League.
Iron Man, Strange and Wanda gets blitzed before they can make a single quip.
Thor, Carol and Hulk get beaten by Clark and Diana, both of whom are much faster than any one of these guys.
Aquaman can kill all the fodder. The only issue for him would be tagging Peter and T'Challa when I think about it. He might actually die if he gets too cocky. Diana could also die if she gets caught off guard but in a massive battle like this I don't think she would get caught off guard.
Flash can essentially chill and ensure Batman and Victor don't die.
Sups solos and clears them in seconds. They have no answer for this speed and reaction, everybody gets frozen to Sups. Most of them gets one shotted.
Speeeed.
And no, blocking energy weapons with help from the knowledge of their aim is not equivalent to being able to touch a speedster.
avengers curb stomp stop overrating superman and flash (Who was scared of fighting parademons) they get nuked here. imagine captain marvel skull digging supes with a vibranium spear. or wanda solo's by professor X'ng their brains out
MCU wins, Scarlett Witch tps the blitzing blur before it gets to her
She isn't going to perceive him in order to do that. She does not have hypersonic combat speed.
@kalkent: all she needs to do is catch him in her red mist and Superman would have no reason to avoid it, she tped people without even seeing them in AOU
all she needs to do is catch him in her red mist and Superman would have no reason to avoid it, she tped people without even seeing them in AOU
She only released that red mist after her brother was killed, she isn't going to do it randomly. Plus, that mist has no feats to say it could slow down Superman, Ultron bots are 1,000,000 times less durable than him. And it is far more likely she would get her head punched into another dimension first.
@kalkent: so she'll just watch as her team mates are blitzed by something she doesn't know? She tped people like that in sokovia
Thor solos Supes and Cap/Iron Man/Spider Man can take Diana.
The rest get murdered by Strange, Wanda, War Machine or Giant Man.
so she'll just watch as her team mates are blitzed by something she doesn't know? She tped people like that in sokovia
Cap, that doesn't even make any sense. Her using tp is extremely out of character in a heated combat situation. Didn't use it once during the battle with the Ultron bots, not once against Corvus and Proxima, not once against Thanos in Infinity War or Endgame, etc. She isn't going to just randomly tp Clark. It is far more likely that she tries to do what she did to Thanos, enrages him, has her tk broken by mach 600 flight, and then having a pissed off Clark punch her head off.
@kalkent: Okay, so I'm assuming you now understand that if she wanted to tp him she could
Wanda using tp is out of character but Superman being in full flash tier speed for the whole battle is?
Okay, so I'm assuming you now understand that is she wanted to tp him she could
Wanda using tp is out of character but Superman being in full flash tier speed for the whole battle is?
All it takes for Superman to go into that mode is to see the team he is fighting as a threat. That's why he took Steppenwolf extremely seriously and used his speed the entire time unlike against the league who he knew he could fodderize. Once a couple of his teammates go down, he's not taking any chances. Also, flash could just decimate all the street level fodder by plowing through them like parademons. Once that happens, he and Clark will literally have all the time in the world to deal with the statue high tiers. Also, Clark doesn't even need to be in statue mode for the whole fight, his regular combat speeds are way faster already than most MCU Characters.
@kalkent: so its fine for Superman to use all his abilities in battle even though it's out of character but it's not for Wanda when she'd clearly see its her only option?
@kalkent: I've also lost interest in this debate so good day
@kalkent: I'm not going to invest my time in a fruitless endeavour, just cause you want to doesn't mean that I should
You can take it as a concession if you want
Sups solos and clears them in seconds. They have no answer for this speed and reaction, everybody gets frozen to Sups. Most of them gets one shotted.
To be fair, his best speed feat is statuing someone who was falling that was a bullet timer, while avengers have guys who can react to tank shells that are 2x that speed. Plus she was falling so she couldnt really move on her own.
OT: Avengers win. Carol blitzs superman with a bullrush then restrains him for thor to chop off his head. Plus supes cant harm carol. The rest of the league are fodder
@captainsweatpan: You could just ignore him and debate someone else. I know it's difficult to get passed those kind of fans.
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