Who Wins in a battle to the death between these two DARK LORDS???
Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) vs Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter)
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THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE vs THE DARK SIDE OF MAGIC... I have always wondered what would happen if these two met X )
Well, he can cast spells to accomplish almost any feat, including flight, pyrokenesis, really anything that Palpatine can, and since this is a battle to the death, Palpatine would have to go and destroy Voldemort's horcruxes, each of which contain parts of his soul, kind of like the ring in the LOTR. Read more here." Could I get some feats for Voldemort before I cast judgment? "
" @JediXMan said:Just read through his powers lists.Well, he can cast spells to accomplish almost any feat, including flight, pyrokenesis, really anything that Palpatine can, and since this is a battle to the death, Palpatine would have to go and destroy Voldemort's horcruxes, each of which contain parts of his soul, kind of like the ring in the LOTR. Read more here. "" Could I get some feats for Voldemort before I cast judgment? "
Nothing really impresses me, honestly. Palpatine was capable of draining an entire planet slowly over time. His greatest feat is probably the ability to create wormholes in space, which he could use to pluck someone off one planet and move them to another or destroy entire fleets.
Also, I just read up on the Horcrux. If he can have that, I see no reason why Palpatine does not get his awaiting clone bodies.
Voldemort's legilimency probably won't work on Palpatine. He does have the killing curse plus he can transfigure almost anything he wants to block; enchant things to attack Palpatine create magical fyendfire that is one of the few things that can destroy a horcrux, he can also fly. Technically if palpatine destroyed Voldemorts body he wouldn't have killed him as he'd need to destroy Voldemorts seven horcruxes first, but I would count that as a win for Palpatine.
I don't really know much about the emperor but from what I've read here he should be able to beat Voldemort.
If i remember correctly even Yoda could not defeat the Emperor as there fight was a stalemate in my eyes, oh and heres a quote from Star Wars Return of the Jedi, this is the words of Yoda himself... " LUKE... LUKE... DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWERS OF THE EMPEROR OR SUFFER YOUR FATHERS FATE YOU WILL "
" @Asok said:If he has clones, they should be limited. I don't think that Palpatine can really do anything to hurt Voldemort unless he gets close with his lightsaber, and that wouldn't happen. Riddle can paralyze Palpatine or kill him with at thought. If you want to know everything that he can do, here is a list of spells. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_spells" @JediXMan said:Just read through his powers lists. Nothing really impresses me, honestly. Palpatine was capable of draining an entire planet slowly over time. His greatest feat is probably the ability to create wormholes in space, which he could use to pluck someone off one planet and move them to another or destroy entire fleets. Also, I just read up on the Horcrux. If he can have that, I see no reason why Palpatine does not get his awaiting clone bodies. "Well, he can cast spells to accomplish almost any feat, including flight, pyrokenesis, really anything that Palpatine can, and since this is a battle to the death, Palpatine would have to go and destroy Voldemort's horcruxes, each of which contain parts of his soul, kind of like the ring in the LOTR. Read more here. "" Could I get some feats for Voldemort before I cast judgment? "
I don't expect you to read all of it, but it would be good to skim through it.
" @JediXMan said:" @Asok said:If he has clones, they should be limited. I don't think that Palpatine can really do anything to hurt Voldemort unless he gets close with his lightsaber, and that wouldn't happen. Riddle can paralyze Palpatine or kill him with at thought. If you want to know everything that he can do, here is a list of spells. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_spells I don't expect you to read all of it, but it would be good to skim through it. "" @JediXMan said:Just read through his powers lists. Nothing really impresses me, honestly. Palpatine was capable of draining an entire planet slowly over time. His greatest feat is probably the ability to create wormholes in space, which he could use to pluck someone off one planet and move them to another or destroy entire fleets. Also, I just read up on the Horcrux. If he can have that, I see no reason why Palpatine does not get his awaiting clone bodies. "Well, he can cast spells to accomplish almost any feat, including flight, pyrokenesis, really anything that Palpatine can, and since this is a battle to the death, Palpatine would have to go and destroy Voldemort's horcruxes, each of which contain parts of his soul, kind of like the ring in the LOTR. Read more here. "" Could I get some feats for Voldemort before I cast judgment? "
Force lightning, choke, push, storm and so many other ways the Emporer could get in Voldemorts @ss, this is a 1 sided battle.
He does indeed have clones.
I read through his list of powers. Didn't read through the list of spells, but I feel that'd be redundant. It would be like me asking you to read through the list of Force powers (Palpatine is supposed to be a master of all of them - not sure if he knows about things like Fold Space, though. Fold Space, Flow Walking, etc. are very mysterious Force powers that don't originate with the Jedi or the Sith).
You underestimate Palpatine's defenses. Jedi and Sith always have a field around themselves as a form of protection from mental assaults, TK, having their weapon destroyed with the Force, draining, etc.
This is Palpatine:
The only reason he lost control is because Luke and Leia cut him off from the Force using the Sever Force ability. And that can only be done by a Force user. That ship is the Eclipse, which is the size of a fleet in its own right, with the power to destroy other capital ships in a single blast.
Palpatine's body was destroyed. He entered another clone after that.
The Words of Palpatine: " I CAN FEEL YOUR ANGER, IT GIVES YOU FOCUS, MAKES YOU STRONGER ". " ONLY THROUGH ME CAN YOU ACHIEVE A POWER GREATER THEN ANY JEDI ". " BECOME MY APPRENTICE LEARN TO USE THE DARKSIDE OF THE FORCE ". " A POWERFUL SITH YOU WILL BECOME "
" Me with a pistol could kill Voldemort. "That is untrue. You would be dead before you pulled the trigger.
@JediXMan: Magic and the force are two completely different things. If Voldemort said, Accio lightsaber, Palpatine's lightsaber would be pulled to Voldemort, although the force may be able to counter that. I highly doubt that Palpatine has any defense against transfiguration. If he was turned into, say, a newt, his mind would be a newt mind, and he wouldn't have the intelligence to inhabit a cloned body.
" Voldemort. Avada Kedavra. /Thread "not sure if that would work since Sidious can use the force to resurrect himself.
" @ComicStooge said:Actually, there's a technique called Sith Alchemy, which involves transfiguration. So I have no doubt that Palpatine has defenses against that." Me with a pistol could kill Voldemort. "That is untrue. You would be dead before you pulled the trigger.
@JediXMan: Magic and the force are two completely different things. If Voldemort said, Accio lightsaber, Palpatine's lightsaber would be pulled to Voldemort, although the force may be able to counter that. I highly doubt that Palpatine has any defense against transfiguration. If he was turned into, say, a newt, his mind would be a newt mind, and he wouldn't have the intelligence to inhabit a cloned body. "
" @Asok said:Proof?" @ComicStooge said:Actually, there's a technique called Sith Alchemy, which involves transfiguration. So I have no doubt that Palpatine has defenses against that. "" Me with a pistol could kill Voldemort. "That is untrue. You would be dead before you pulled the trigger.
@JediXMan: Magic and the force are two completely different things. If Voldemort said, Accio lightsaber, Palpatine's lightsaber would be pulled to Voldemort, although the force may be able to counter that. I highly doubt that Palpatine has any defense against transfiguration. If he was turned into, say, a newt, his mind would be a newt mind, and he wouldn't have the intelligence to inhabit a cloned body. "
Here ya go: Sith Alchemy.
Also, the use of spells are included in Sith Alchemy. It's a bit similar to magic (or at least more similar than the Force in general)
Jk, Rowlling say once, a guy with a gun could kill any Harry Potterverse wizard, since Paplatine could kill any one that have a gun, Palpatine wins.
" Jk, Rowlling say once, a guy with a gun could kill any Harry Potterverse wizard, since Paplatine could kill any one that have a gun, Palpatine wins. "And if I had a gun, I could kill Voldemort!
" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:Yea, the whole point is that the Pottervese wizards are pretty weak." Jk, Rowlling say once, a guy with a gun could kill any Harry Potterverse wizard, since Paplatine could kill any one that have a gun, Palpatine wins. "And if I had a gun, I could kill Voldemort! "
Partially correct, partially incorrect. The Force does not work on vocal commands. Sith Alchemy isn't simply the Light or Dark side of the Force. It is a corrupt, twisted, dark art. It's referred to as Sith Magic. Darth Bane, I believed, used a spell from ancient texts (from Darth Andeddu) to transfer his soul. It works off of the Force, but it isn't the same thing. It's a lot more complicated." @JediXMan: But it is still part of the force, and doesn't run on the same wavelength as magic, like how a radio wave is still EM, but not the same as an EMP.
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What I am saying is that Palpatine, a practitioner of Sith Alchemy and practically ever single Force form, might have defenses against magic.
" @Asok said:I don't understand how being nonverbal matters. Voldemort has shown that he can do any spell, verbally or nonverbally. And even if he does have a defense, which I doubt, there is no defense against the killing curse, (the only thing that can block it is Harry Potter because he was connected with Voldemort on a very high level) and Voldemort uses that a lot.Partially correct, partially incorrect. The Force does not work on vocal commands. Sith Alchemy isn't simply the Light or Dark side of the Force. It is a corrupt, twisted, dark art. It's referred to as Sith Magic. Darth Bane, I believed, used a spell from ancient texts (from Darth Andeddu) to transfer his soul. It works off of the Force, but it isn't the same thing. It's a lot more complicated. What I am saying is that Palpatine, a practitioner of Sith Alchemy and practically ever single Force form, might have defenses against magic. "" @JediXMan: But it is still part of the force, and doesn't run on the same wavelength as magic, like how a radio wave is still EM, but not the same as an EMP.
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@deathpoolthet1000: It was a normal wizard vs a normal human with a gun, JK rowling has no concept of firearms at all, nor does she have any concept of wizards vs muggles, she is pretty silly to be honest and her books aren't very well written and have plotholes galore. A wizard vs a gunman wizard wins 9/10 he can just make a shield to protect himself or turn the gun into a water pistol, Voldermort is one of the most powerful wizards of all time so killing him with a gun is not going to happen. Palpatine would kill voldermort as we haven't seen much of his power, and already he is pretty unstoppable.
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