Emperor Palpatine & Luke Skywalker vs Garou & Lord Boros

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Emperor Palpatine & Grandmaster Luke Skywalker (Canon & EU)

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Garou & Lord Boros

In character

Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death

Random encounter

Standard gear and abilities

Fight takes place on an unpopulated, indestructible Earth-like planet

Who'd win? For what reasons?

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Garou & Lord Boros ftw

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Bumperstickers

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Boros planet busts

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OPM team take this

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Luke space folds them in half.

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#9  Edited By Wewlad80

Sidious is literally Fodder here.

GM Luke has Massively Hypersonic+ Reaction speed and hax like teleportation/Instant Transmition aswell as the ability to teleport other objects places by folding space. So he could prove annoying to catch but the OPM team should still win every time.

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Since we are talking about EU-versions as well, Luke and Palp complete stomp.

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Don't see why Luke and Palp don't stomp this

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Force storm can give the star wars team the win

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EU versions should stomp

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@eredin12 said:

EU Luke and Palpatine solo stomp

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Probably team Force

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@eredin12 said:

EU Luke and Palpatine solo stomp

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@punyaamrit: Virtually faster and has notable planet level feats.

how fast are they and what planet level feats do they have?

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@punyaamrit: Fast enough to kick someone to the Moon and keep up with that same guy who made several after images.

Boros can destroy a planet.

the first one isn't a speed feat

scans or some proof?

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@punyaamrit: Fast enough to kick someone to the Moon and keep up with that same guy who made several after images.

Boros can destroy a planet.

Characters that are many, MANY tiers beneath GM Luke and DE Palps in power and speed can create over 10 after images. Those speed feats are fodder and the planet they're fighting on is indestructible.

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OT: GM Luke or Palps solo

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@void_reborn: And they can kick someone to the Moon?

Doesn’t limit Boros’ desturctiveness.

Kicking someone to the moon doesn't change anything. They won't even tag these two, who can easily TP Boros and Garou or win by other means.

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Depending on how fast you think EU Luke and Sidious are, this is either a stomp for OPM or a stomp for Star Wars.

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#34 killbilly  Moderator

@punyaamrit: Fast enough to kick someone to the Moon and keep up with that same guy who made several after images.

Boros can destroy a planet.

I mean, Obi Wan, somebody within blitz range of RotS Sidious/Yoda ( let alone DE Sidious or GM Luke who are much more powerful ) can block dodge thousands of lightspeed projectiles with the aid of precognition.

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@eliotte3344 said:

@punyaamrit: Fast enough to kick someone to the Moon and keep up with that same guy who made several after images.

Boros can destroy a planet.

I mean, Obi Wan, somebody within blitz range of RotS Sidious/Yoda ( let alone DE Sidious or GM Luke who are much more powerful ) can block dodge thousands of lightspeed projectiles with the aid of precognition.

really? when did kenobi do so?

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#36  Edited By killbilly  Moderator
@punyaamrit said:
@killbilly said:
@eliotte3344 said:

@punyaamrit: Fast enough to kick someone to the Moon and keep up with that same guy who made several after images.

Boros can destroy a planet.

I mean, Obi Wan, somebody within blitz range of RotS Sidious/Yoda ( let alone DE Sidious or GM Luke who are much more powerful ) can block dodge thousands of lightspeed projectiles with the aid of precognition.

really? when did kenobi do so?

Kenobi's blocking/dodging thousands of lightspeed projectiles with the aid of precognition:

Only ten thousand to go. Give or take. An instant later the Force had him hurtling through a storm of blasterfire as every combat droid in the control center opened up on him at once. Letting go of intention, letting go of desire, letting go of life, Obi-Wan fixed his entire attention on a thread of the Force that pulled him toward Grievous: not where Grievous was, but where Grievous would be when Obi-Wan got there... Leaping girder to girder, slashing cables on which to swing through swarms of ricocheting particle beams, blade flickering so fast it became a deflector shield that splattered blaster bolts in all directions, his presence alone became a weapon: as he spun and whirled through the control center's superstructure, the blasts of particle cannons from power droids destroyed equipment and shattered girders and unleashed a torrent of red-hot debris that crashed to the deck, crushing droids on all sides. By the time he flipped down through the air to land cat-footed on the deck once more, nearly half the droids between him and Grievous had been destroyed by their own not-so-friendly fire. He cut his way into the mob of remaining troops as smoothly as if it were no more than a canebrake near some sunlit beach; his steady pace left behind a trail of smoking slices of droid." - Revenge of the Sith.

The speed of a blaster bolt is stated by multiple sources to be "lightspeed" or "the speed of light."

"Though the transparisteel in the doors at the end of the main hall he could see distant flashes, narrow red bolts heading one way at the speed of light." - The New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines II - Rebel Stand.

"The wave of charged particles blew over her at lightspeed, nearly - but not quite - generating enough static to drown out Gavin's fierce cry of exultation." - The New Jedi Order: Edge of Victory - Book II.

You might point out that blaster bolts don't appear to be lightspeed in visual depictions. ICS addresses this point however, stating that the "visible bolt" travels at less then lightspeed with the actual energy travelling AT lightspeed.

"Energy weapons fire invisible energy beams at lightspeed. The visible "bolt" is a glowing pulse that travels along the beam at less than lightspeed. The light given off by visible bolts depletes the overall energy content of a beam, limiting its range. Turbolasers gain a longer range by spinning the energy beam, which reduces waste glow." - Star Wars: Attack of the Clones Incredible Cross-Sections.

Other feats of high tiers like GM Luke and Sarasu Taalon having nanosecond reaction time:

"He had no time to be astonished, barely even the nanosecond required to realize Abeloth had survived her fall into the cleft. He merely felt his feet shoot away and found himself dropping face-first. Luke tucked his chin and managed to flip to his back before he hit the stone floor. Abeloth was on top of him, her flesh blistered and smoking, her remaining leg entwining both of his, her remaining arm wrapped around the back of his neck." - Fate of the Jedi: Vortex.

"Luke pressed the trigger and held it down—then felt his jaw drop as bolts began to ricochet off the High Lord’s palm. It wasn’t the deflection of blasterfire with a bare hand that shocked him—he had fought plenty of Sith capable of that trick. What amazed Luke was the speed with which Taalon had moved. In the nanosecond it had taken the first bolt to cross the distance between them, the High Lord’s hand had risen to deflect it, traveling so fast that the appendage had literally seemed to disappear from one place and reappear in another." - Vortex.

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#37  Edited By Nomar

Starwars EU fans and taking written text to hyperbolic limits, name a more iconic duo. Such a delusional fanbase that they cling to material that was never aligned with GL vision. It's the worst kind of fan fiction, the type that bastardizes the source material.

Also trying to make blocking blaster fire light speed feats. I guess that makes every precog a light speeder, a plethora of street level comic book heroes can replicate blocking blaster fire, it is incredibly unimpressive. Trying to make them out to be light speed fighters, I can't even with this fanbase.

9/10 "impressive" feats are just written word taken to its most hyperbolic level. Almost never anything actually impressive happening.

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#38  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

@nomar: I don't believe I ever commented on Obi Wan's speed. I only pointed out that he dodged and blocked thousands of blaster bolts with the aid of precognition. Do you disagree with this statement?

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Garou and Boros blitz. If they can't for some reason, Luke and Sidious stomp.

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@killbilly: I think that's rather hyperbolic, because then even street levelers and most fodders in star wars would be lightspeed

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#41  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

@punyaamrit: It's literally an event that occurs in the story. It's not some vague metaphorical statement.

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@punyaamrit: It's literally an event that occurs in the story. It's not some vague metaphorical statement.

yes I get that, but then that would mean that most fodders in EU are lightspeed

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#44 killbilly  Moderator

@killbilly said:

@punyaamrit: It's literally an event that occurs in the story. It's not some vague metaphorical statement.

yes I get that, but then that would mean that most fodders in EU are lightspeed

I mean, it is what it is.

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@punyaamrit said:
@killbilly said:

@punyaamrit: It's literally an event that occurs in the story. It's not some vague metaphorical statement.

yes I get that, but then that would mean that most fodders in EU are lightspeed

I mean, it is what it is.

By fodders, do you mean B1 battle droids or just low tier Jedi?

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@killbilly said:
@punyaamrit said:
@killbilly said:

@punyaamrit: It's literally an event that occurs in the story. It's not some vague metaphorical statement.

yes I get that, but then that would mean that most fodders in EU are lightspeed

I mean, it is what it is.

By fodders, do you mean B1 battle droids or just low tier Jedi?

kinda both

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Either force user stomp

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Palps solos and stomps