Emma Frost & Teen Jean vs Rachel Grey & Stepford Cuckoos

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telepathy only

morals off

good teamwork for all

no phoenix and psi-leeching

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@marvelfan1992: What in the hell???

Anyway idk.

On a regular day i think Emma still beats Rachel. And the Cuckoos are still slightly above Jeen.

But when you put those together here....idk

Basically it depends on who is more warn out after their tough wins, Emma or the Cuckoos. And seeing as Jeen and the Cuckoos are so close a match I'd argue that the Cuckoos would lose this.

On the other hand if Rachel can damage Emma enough or tax her power levels, then it's possible the Cuckoos could pull her into the hivemind or engage her directly and pull out a win.

Still its Emma an Jeen, 7/10

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@marvelfan1992: LOL, that edit.

I think Emma & Jeen can pull off a win with very high difficulty.

I’d say that Emma is slightly above Rachel and Jeen is slightly above the Cuckoos, but the gap is quite small. Whoever wins their fight first would likely be quite exhausted but they should have enough strength to aid their teammate and pull a win.

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@marvelfan1992: I am Dead after that edit.

I give the win to Emma and Jean. It’s mostly due to Emma than Jean. Like @koays said, Teen Jean vs the Cuckoos is a close one. That typically leads to a long, drawn-out fight. If that happens, Emma will eventually step in and make this a near stomp.

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Emma and Jean in a close fight

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@marvelfan1992: Dude I almost died laughing from your edit lol. Anyway depending on wether or not Jeen could stall long enough for Emma to beat Rachel, im going with team 1 but it’s really close.

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Emma and Jean in a really brutal fight. I actually think Rachel is really close to Emma now and at the very least their fight will be really drawn out and long, so the deciding factor for this battle is Jeen vs the Cuckoos, and I believe the Cuckoos should be able to deal with her before Rachel ends up losing to Emma. Emma and Rachel are close enough that Emma would be just as exhausted as Rachel, so even if the Cuckoos come in really tired, it should tip the fight in their favor.

@koays "And seeing as Jeen and the Cuckoos are so close a match I'd argue that the Cuckoos would lose this." You don't mean the Cuckoos would lose to Jeen right?

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Emma and Jean take a minor majority

Emma > Rachel > Cuckoos > Teen Jean

Cuckoos stomp Jean just like they have done pretty recently, and Emma stomps Rachel again. Then it’s just Emma Vs The Cuckoos And we all know who wins that fight

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Emma and Jean take a minor majority

Emma > Rachel > Cuckoos > Teen Jean

Cuckoos stomp Jean just like they have done pretty recently, and Emma stomps Rachel again. Then it’s just Emma Vs The Cuckoos And we all know who wins that fight

where did the Cuckoos stomp jeen recently? Also, current Rachel is a lot more powerful and experienced than the one Emma defeated before. Emma is still superior, but only by a slight margin. Rachel would give her a hell of a fight now

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@onsipin: Nah, but I think that Jeen gives them a problem in a 1v1. Her higher ends for TP are debatably over them, but her average is firmly below them.

I say Cuckoos beat her but it's an awkward fight that takes time.

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I feel like this one goes to Emma Frost/Teen Jean due to Jean's potency and Emma's experience.

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@emmafrostxmen: @onsipin: The Cuckoos haven’t stomped Jean recently. I think they are referring to All-New X-Men #11.

While I agree that the Cuckoos probably take a majority off of skill, they most certainly aren’t stomping. Jean has come way too far to end up like how she did in issue 11.

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@koays@onsipin so who wins first between Emma vs Rachel and Cuckoos vs Teen Jean?

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@kenshiro3051996: If I were to guess, I’d say Emma vs Rachel would decide a winner before Jean and the Cuckoos do.

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@kenshiro3051996: Honestly Emma probably wins first. But it's up in the air.

The Cuckoos have to contend with Jeens power level, and either trap her or shut her down thoroughly.

Emma has the easier fight in that shes a bad match up for Rachel since Rachel's raw power mind blast arent necessarily going to help her if this goes astral and Emma gets access to her more complex arsenal.

Emma should finish first, but its dependent on the amount of fight Teen Jean puts up.

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@koays said:

@marvelfan1992: What in the hell???

Anyway idk.

On a regular day i think Emma still beats Rachel. And the Cuckoos are still slightly above Jeen.

But when you put those together here....idk

Basically it depends on who is more warn out after their tough wins, Emma or the Cuckoos. And seeing as Jeen and the Cuckoos are so close a match I'd argue that the Cuckoos would lose this.

On the other hand if Rachel can damage Emma enough or tax her power levels, then it's possible the Cuckoos could pull her into the hivemind or engage her directly and pull out a win.

Still its Emma an Jeen, 7/10

Still this..... I feel like the Cuckoos do better now against Jeen, but I don't feel like they are changing things that much

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@koays said:
@koays said:

@marvelfan1992: What in the hell???

Anyway idk.

On a regular day i think Emma still beats Rachel. And the Cuckoos are still slightly above Jeen.

But when you put those together here....idk

Basically it depends on who is more warn out after their tough wins, Emma or the Cuckoos. And seeing as Jeen and the Cuckoos are so close a match I'd argue that the Cuckoos would lose this.

On the other hand if Rachel can damage Emma enough or tax her power levels, then it's possible the Cuckoos could pull her into the hivemind or engage her directly and pull out a win.

Still its Emma an Jeen, 7/10

Still this..... I feel like the Cuckoos do better now against Jeen, but I don't feel like they are changing things that much

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pretty even actually now that i’m really thinking about it

emma is better than rachel, but they’re close. what rachel lacks in skill she makes up for in raw power. don’t get me wrong emma will beat her, but it won’t be easy. on the other hand i can see the cuckoo’s potentially taking out jeen with roughly the same amount of difficulty. so it’s really a coin toss to see which fight finishes first.

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Emma carry but can go either way