@crunch5481:
Yikes, not only did you completely misrepresent what this passive force shield is, but you also entirely misunderstood my point about telekinesis not being the same thing as the force.
Lets see how i am prety sure you are not well knowledgable about star wars but lets see your arguments
And I said the passive shield was only effective against the force because this "passive shield" has never protected against anything other than the force.
But force is just one of the energies used to do TK if Eleven uses another type of energy, force energy would block like it blocks force energy
What is this nonsense? This is a literally baseless assumption.
Yes, its true that force never blocked other TK energies but that is because no other TK energy exist in star wars, in crossovers like this we assume that TK is same as Force TK, otherwise you could argue that since MCU Cap does not have Chakra Itachi cannot TP him, in crossovers we assume that all powers work, and that force energy and her TK energy work similarly, after all, they are same, both do same things, sure force can do more but that is not point
No, that assumption makes no sense at all. Eleven does not use the force, her TK is very different. Force TK is its own thing and is very different from most interpretations of TK. Your example with chakra makes no sense, 11's powers are completely different than Rey's. They are NOT the same!
And technically it hasn't even protected against the force, you'd have to show me a time where someone used the force and the other person was completely unaffected.
How about Fallen order when rage amped Cere uses force agisnt Vader, and after he gets up, she is using force against him yet he casually walks through it, and is completely unaffected, he is not gesturing or using force to block her attack, he just walks thrugh it
Vader is very clearly affected by it, he just overpowers it. She drops him to his knees and he overpowers through it because he is stronger, that is NOT a force barrier. Using the force does not require gesture, force users amp their physical strength all the time with no gestures or visual cues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg0rXa1WnZc&t=499s
And like i explained if force barrier did not exist, Cal would snap Vaders neck, but he clearly could not do that
That's only speculation. If he tried to do that he would be out-forced by Vader who is stronger than him in every way. This line of argument you're making is fallacious.
Lol ObiWan and Anakin not being thrown back is because they reacted and were bracing, that is not an example of a force barrier. I know exactly the scene, I literally watched that episode today and that's not what happened.
How do you mean bracing, Obi-Wan was not bracing, he just covered his face with his arms, he was not bracing at all
Dude they literally crouch down and cover themselves, this is a typical bracing position. This is literally exactly what Superman did when Doomsday caused that huge explosion from himself.
Also, Rey is pissed here, so she is going to kill Eleven, she will not hold back, and Rey is not Superman or Batman, she does kill, Jedi, in general, are only aginst killing of defenseless enemies, but they look in the fight all the time, Eleven is far from defenseless, so Rey will have no problems with killing her and since she is much faster, she is going go stomp her on the draw or blitz her
So Rey, a Jedi on the lightside, is going to brutally kill a CHILD because she is angry? What drugs are you on? Eleven is a child with no visual weapons, she is unarmed, she appears completely defenseless. What you said about Jedi isn't even true, I just watched a clone wars episode today and watched Mace Windu choose to fight without his lightsaber against many guards, choosing to not kill them and using their less deadly weapons against them. And you're here trying to tell me that Rey is going to use the force to kill a physically unarmed child, when Mace Windu and other Jedi have shown more restraint against adult guards with weapons actively trying to kill them.
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