EG Cap vs IW Iron Man

Tony definitely.

This has been done.

And Tony.

Tony

Cap, bloodlust does Tony no good (he fights up close and personal) and Cap will smash that helmet open easily since he can hit harder than Thanos. Mark 85>mark 50, and even that suit cannot really handle serious Mjolnir strikes very well.

Tony Stark should win this.

Thanos had the gauntlet at his disposal when fighting Tony and taking hits with its power.

Iron Man wrecks.

Rogers destroys him

Tony easily.

Cap

Tony wins mid diff,

has been done many times, even EG IM wins

Tony Stark

I am pretty sure that EG Tony was stronger than IW Tony . Thanos in EG made Tony look like a fodder , but was having trouble with Cap . This should put cap significantly above Tony .

Also , Cap has all of Thor's powers , and it's generally accepted that Thor > Iron man .

Tony wins easily.

@trololololol: powers of Thor only includes lightning flight and mjolnr coming back to him. Tony gave a good fight to iw thanos who had infinity stones and was much more experienced

@darkthunder: I am pretty sure it includes everything . Cap would have died to Thanos if he didn't have Thor's durability , and he wouldn't have hurt Thanos with his physical attacks if he didn't have Thor's strength .

Thanos wasn't even serious in IW . We can't use him to gauge Thanos' true strength .

Steve stomps.

@trololololol: nope power of Thor doesn't mean physicals. Only lightning, flight and hammer coming back to him. Cap's attacks only staggered thanos and those were the attacks with mjolnr. If thanos failed to kill cap with a punch,then why would cap be dead

@darkthunder: It does mean his physicals too. Remember how Thor had human physicals after getting exiled to Earth? He got his stats after holding Mjolnir .

Cap staggered him with and without Mjolnir.

If Cap had his normal stats , then Thanos' punches would have killed him . What's so hard to understand ? Thanos bloodies Thor's face after 2-3 punches . Cap would have been dead meat with those punches unless he had Thor's durability .

Iron Man probably wins because he has Captain America's fighting style on file, Cap's lightning will only power Tony up and Tony has already shown that when fighting Cap he knows to deprive him of his weapons, like he directed Spider-Man to do in Civil War. Steve is never going to tag Tony physically due to his armor's skill and mobility and his only viable ranged attacks leave him vulnerable. Tony can predict Steve's thrown weapon's trajectories and deploy parts of his armor to carry his shield away or to use the hand restraining configuration he used against Thanos on Titan to open Steve's hand around Mjolnir, which will instantly deprive him of his Asgardian stats, as would Steve throwing it offensively. From there, Tony could kill Steve in an instant.

Tony will struggle to hurt Captain America though unless he uses his blade or foam seal to suffocate. Steve can take minority victories because of his Mjolnir/shield combo attacks, which should bypass Tony's record of Steve's fighting style and be unorthodox enough for Tony to fail predicting it.

Tony but it will be close

@darkthunder: explain Cap parrying Thanos's sword with his shield when previous hits to the shield sent Cap flying back. He also stood from the overhead strike that cut into the shield. The shield failed to deflect the attack but despite the downward force, Cap stood without putting as much effort as he did trying to keep Thanos's hand open. Cap also held off a giant alien easily with one arm without any worry about it biting close to his face while you see clearly more effort put into getting an outrider off of him in IW.

Still Tony.

@rebake: blah blah blah. Explain why superman didn't use his superspeed to blitz the black zero before it lands? Why Spiderman could easily beat Bucky and falcon at once while Steve,a guy who is Bucky level as established in ws easily beat Spiderman?

Tony

@darkthunder: Yes. Odin said " I now take from you your power " and Thor went down to human level in physicals . He again got the Thor stats back after holding Mjolnir which says "Whosoever is worthy shall possess the powers of Thor" . I think this is enough reason to accept that you can get Thor physicals by holding the hammer .

Thor had his normal stats in Ragnarok because Odin never took it from him , and Thor doesn't need the hammer to get them . But anyone else would .

Yeah Cap has peak human stats , but he is still nothing close to Thor . Thor was bloody after 3 hits from Thanos . Someone with Super soldier stats would have died if he got hit even once .

@darkthunder: How can lightening do something like put armour on somebody ? It was clearly Mjolnir's magic which restored his powers and healed him .

No , that's not a headcanon . Thor was a god before and after Mjolnir , Cap wasn't .

Every street leveller who survived him was back in IW , where he was pulling his punches and trying not to kill anyone unnecessarily . EG Thanos is more brutal than IW one .

Cap, he fights the serious Thanos and doing well while Tony was aganist holding back Thanos.

@darkthunder: The hammer didn't heal him . I already mentioned that the magic from the hammer did .

As for the healing part , the same could be asked about Thor. He was healed by both SB and Mjolnir in previous movies , but why didn't he use the ability ever again ? That is a plot device power with no explanation .

Thanos didn't K.O cap in EG .

It's not headcanon . The enchantment clearly says that whosoever is worthy will get the powers of Thor by holding the hammer. That clearly means anyone can get that power if he is worthy and holds the hammer .

Thanos didn't directly punch Cap before getting Mjolnir . He punched him once , but Cap managed to get the shield between them .

Captain America

@trololololol: exactly, Cap was fodder before using Mjolnir against Thanos. He went from flying from single strikes even when blocking to being able to stand and block and even parry a strike from the sword.

Tony

Captain America with mjolnir

Tony buries Cap.

It’s not a stomp but Tony. It’s a stomp if Cap loses the hammer at any point in the fight and doesn’t get it back.

Cap unless Iron Man utilizes his flight to the best of its ability.

@darkthunder: your last question literally killed your argument...

@rebake: no it didn't. I kept replying to him. But now I realize that MCU thanos has never killed àñyóñé just with a punch. This isn't DCEU. There is almost no evidence that he can kill people with a punch

@darkthunder: Kurse put a pretty bad beating on him in Thor 2. Thanos also bloodied his entire face and knocked him out . And the entire idea of him only getting healed after getting seriously injured is just a headcanon . We don't know how that works.

No , Cap didn't get knocked out by Thanos in EG .

Lmao , are you serious with the last question ? Thanos has superior strength than Hulk , has broken vibranium in two different instances , tore apart Iron Man's armour like it was nothing and bloodied Thor's (guy who survived the full force of a star) face with just a couple of punches.

This argument is over if you seriously want to use these kinds of logics .

@trololololol: really. Kurse but him near death? Or did thanos beat him near death? He has only two instances of healing and that's when he was at the brink of death. Yes he did. When Thor pins thanos with SB and mjolnr. And then he hits away Thor and then he rolls over and hits cap to KO him and tries to get the gauntlet.

And tell those feats to the sorcerer (not strange) in endgame who survived thanos punch

@darkthunder: Yeah , Thor was gonns die against Kurse and Thanos .

By your logic , the hammer heals you only when near death . So you provided an answer to your own question . Cap wasn't near death .

Yeah okay , I missed that part . Anyways , in the very same instance , Thanos knocked out Thor with a headbutt . Cap living after getting hit by Thanos just proves that he has Thor level stats . Can you really imagine Super Soldier Cap surviving a hit from a pissed off Thanos? A few of those put Thor and Hulk into the hospital .

Which sorceror ? Provide an image or a link .