Madara delivers an ass kicking of epic proportions. The only one that could probably be a hindrance is Itachi.
Edo Madara vs. Akatsuki
@killers10333: That's an assumption. We need feats before making such a statement. He's never shown Tsukyomi or Amaterasu, so he can't do either, simple as that. Just like Sasuke can't do Tsukyomi (his two techniques are Kagatsuchi and Amaterasu), Madara can't till proven. Madara's genjutsu is rarely used, he won't do it in character unless it's wide open. Also C4>>>>Madara's 25 clones.
How is C4 stronger than madaras clones? Assuming Deidara can hit Madara with it, they can just reshape since it is edo.. plus susanoo would block the c4, it has tanked hits from the kages which are more powerful than the c4. I forgot sasuke had a different technique with his right eye so i agree that we dont know which techniques madara has
C4 is the microscopic bombs. Susanoo shouldn't block anything microscopic. And the clones would keep getting destroyed or at least open up themselves to be sealed by Nagato/Itachi as they take time to reform.
How do we know susanoo wouldnt stop something microscopic?
@killers10333: That's an assumption. We need feats before making such a statement. He's never shown Tsukyomi or Amaterasu, so he can't do either, simple as that. Just like Sasuke can't do Tsukyomi (his two techniques are Kagatsuchi and Amaterasu), Madara can't till proven. Madara's genjutsu is rarely used, he won't do it in character unless it's wide open. Also C4>>>>Madara's 25 clones.
How is C4 stronger than madaras clones? Assuming Deidara can hit Madara with it, they can just reshape since it is edo.. plus susanoo would block the c4, it has tanked hits from the kages which are more powerful than the c4. I forgot sasuke had a different technique with his right eye so i agree that we dont know which techniques madara has
C4 is the microscopic bombs. Susanoo shouldn't block anything microscopic. And the clones would keep getting destroyed or at least open up themselves to be sealed by Nagato/Itachi as they take time to reform.
How do we know susanoo wouldnt stop something microscopic?
Gaara's sand got through it.
@killers10333: That's an assumption. We need feats before making such a statement. He's never shown Tsukyomi or Amaterasu, so he can't do either, simple as that. Just like Sasuke can't do Tsukyomi (his two techniques are Kagatsuchi and Amaterasu), Madara can't till proven. Madara's genjutsu is rarely used, he won't do it in character unless it's wide open. Also C4>>>>Madara's 25 clones.
How is C4 stronger than madaras clones? Assuming Deidara can hit Madara with it, they can just reshape since it is edo.. plus susanoo would block the c4, it has tanked hits from the kages which are more powerful than the c4. I forgot sasuke had a different technique with his right eye so i agree that we dont know which techniques madara has
C4 is the microscopic bombs. Susanoo shouldn't block anything microscopic. And the clones would keep getting destroyed or at least open up themselves to be sealed by Nagato/Itachi as they take time to reform.
How do we know susanoo wouldnt stop something microscopic?
Gaara's sand got through it.
It got underneath it. Deidara could plant bombs in the ground but just as sasuke could see and sense the bombs, so too could madara
@killers10333: Yeah I know that's what I am trying to tell them. He still has the sharingan so what's to stop him from using genjutsu? As if he's never used it before... And it's not valid to compare Sasuke to him and say, "Madara would be bad at it b/c he uses it just as much as Sasuke and we all know that means its cuz he sucks"
@killers10333: He doesn't have to use susano. He has sharingan, meaning he can see them as sasuke did. He can just get the hell out of it's range (like sasuke did lol)
@your_friendly_azn: No he doesn't stomp, but he wouldn't have a problem decapitating hidan either.
Madara stomps, he would just have a hard time figuring out how to put Hidan down
Even then, if Hidan is incinerated by Amaterasu, he can't do much.
@your_friendly_azn: No he doesn't stomp, but he wouldn't have a problem decapitating hidan either.
I don't think it would be close though. If he doesn't kill Kakuzu before he decapitates Hidan then it wouldn't matter. Madara stomped the 5 kages I'm sure the Akatsuki would be much different
Madara stomps, he would just have a hard time figuring out how to put Hidan down
Even then, if Hidan is incinerated by Amaterasu, he can't do much.
@comicstooge: Madara can't use amaterasu lol. Neither can't Obito
@josephgomes619: Majestic Flame Destroyer would do the job
Madara one-shots without Obito on Akatuski. Each Akatuski member gets a Susano'o clones. Everybody dies except Pain, Itachi and Kisame.
Then those 3 either get one-shotted by Perfect Susano'o, get put to sleep by poison pollen or Wood Dragon puts them down.
Or Madara can just decide to end them all at once by dropping Meteors on the entire Akatsuki.
@darkslumber: Madara can trap them with Chibaku Tensei (Madara's CT >>>>>>>>>>>> Pain's CT). This is a mismatch
@josephgomes619: This is Edo Madara he showed no feats of being able to use Chibaku Tensei in this form.
Well it doesn't really matter when Madara can drop a Meteor on all of them and Pain would be the only one capable of destroying it with his City busting Shinra Tensei.
Once Pain over exerts himself on that Madara just trolls them by dropping a Second Meteor killing everybody in the Akatuski.
@josephgomes619: This is Edo Madara he showed no feats of being able to use Chibaku Tensei in this form.
Well it doesn't really matter when Madara can drop a Meteor on all of them and Pain would be the only one capable of destroying it with his City busting Shinra Tensei.
Once Pain over exerts himself on that Madara just trolls them by dropping a Second Meteor killing everybody in the Akatuski.
Yes there's. He could use chibaku and shinra tensei based on game feats. Watch here
@darkslumber: Madara can use rinnegan better than Pain ever could with the borrowed eyes. Madara mastered rinnegan before dying. Borrowed eyes can only take you so far
Madara stomps. He is already in another league. Itachi doesn't really do much in this scenario. He is insaly over rated and Madara is much more powerful than Itachi. Pains mastery over the rinnengan is nowhere near Madaras. What are they going to do against Limbo? Meteors? He can just absorb all their attacks and best them in taijutsu?
He could stomp them while being mortal tbh. He took on all 9 tailed beasts without his eyes and survived. Like jesus.
Making him edo is just overkill.
Madara stomps. All he simply needs to do is summon a meteor for a complete wipe and he will be the only one left standing.
@tony_shark: Some people think Pain can use Madara's rinnegan better than Madara himself. ROFL
@josephgomes619: For real. It's ridiculous. Just as bad as the people who say Itachi wins automatically because of susanoo.
What did Madara do that Pain couldn't ? Also the Akatsuki win. Pain will pull Madara from his Susanoo and be put under a genjutsu by Itachi no one has better genjutsu prowess than him. Also pain could summon the Gedo statue to destroy Madara. The Akatsuki are stronger than the 5 Kage And without Hashirama's cells in his system it would not be the match most people think it to be. Could an edo get poisoned ?
What did Madara do that Pain couldn't ?
A better question would be what could Pain do that Madara couldn't considering Madara had all the Rinnegan techniques but also the Mangekyo Sharingan techniques and Wood Release. and he was also better at Taijutsu and Genjutsu.
What did Madara do that Pain couldn't ?
A better question would be what could Pain do that Madara couldn't considering Madara had all the Rinnegan techniques but also the Mangekyo Sharingan techniques and Wood Release. and he was also better at Taijutsu and Genjutsu.
It was about Rinnegan mastery not overall power, Edo Madara doesn't have the feats to compete with reviving thousands of people, and his fighting style almost didn't use the rinnegan at all, though by hype his rinnegan mastery should be at least on par with Nagato's.
The few possibilities i see for this Akatsuki's lineup are mainly:
The paths: Soul steal gg, may be hard to acomplish. Why wonder wether samehada can absorb/debilitate susano'o? Preta Path can, though there are loads of susano'os :S, Deva path, maybe just MAYBE it could get madara out of susanoo (i doubt it) with ST, the summons could help fight off the clones, and the most important summon, the Gedo Mazou, would probably incite a fight of wills between Madara and Nagato for its control (i imagine since madara would probably have a clone doing this the Gedo Mazou would probably be still/not help either side).
Totsuka: They need to seal him somehow or steal his soul, i don't remember another Akatsuki with sealing techniques.
Konan: What? Well if she can use her 600 billon shennanigan in this fight, that might keep Madara in check for enough time so that Itachi can stab him with totsuka or so that Nagato can control Gedo Mazou.
There a couple ways Akatsuki can pull this off, all are longshots:
1- Preta path to drain susano'o, ST to push madara to totsuka.
2- Madara summons meteor the 8 akatsuki die, the 6 paths are killed, and madara is turned to dust and reforming. Nagato, which is miles away, and still alive performs Rinne Tensei on the Akatsuki, and Itachi Seals with Totsuka while Madara is still reforming.
3- Zetsu one shots or takes over Madara's body.
With zetsu fighting at his best to seal madara (OP is ambiguous since IC zetsu wouldn't do this), he can oneshot susano'os (Zetsu's punch >>>> 7th gate Hirudora > base hirudora which ragdolled Edo Madara's PS) and attach to Madara's body effectively paralyzing him, making this much easier.
Akatsuki 9/10
If Zetsu is not trying his best to seal Madara, then Madara 9/10
Is this thread a joke? Madara was man handling Tobirama, EMS Sasuke, and Kyuubi-Naruto while he was fucking blind.
Lol....you guys can't be serious.
Godstomp in Akatsuki favor.
The will be simply too much coming at Madara for him to even see someone to attack.
He will be getting bombarded by:
Paper bombs
Flying/ground based Exploding clay projectiles
A-S rank Water,fire,wind,lighting and earth based attacks all at once (Kakuzu)
Amateratsu/ susanoo flying beads (forgot the name)
100 puppets, Iron sand and more elemental attacks
Water shark bombs
It's just too much.
Also can't kisame Super water shark bomb absorb chakra and get bigger? Bye bye susanoo. It's too easy for them too setup a totsuka sealing blade.
so lets see.
Pain > tsunade/kakashi(which ever you consider to be the hokage for the battle)
Diedara > gaara
there are two kages out.
that leaves mizukage, tsuchikage and the raikage. vs 7 other akatsuki members + 5 remaining pains while tendo path is fighting the hokage.
tsuchikage can do damage with with his atomic jutsu's.
the raikage speaks for himself and the mizu is obviously, outside her little fight with sasuke, kind of featless/lackluster. i feel members like kakuza/hidan/konan could team up and take her out with ease.
leaving kisame and itachi, all knowing zetsu, sassori, and the other pains to take out the remaining two.
but on track with the OP. edo madara would be a much bigger challenge, he himself can't match the power of the 5 kages and still being powerful enough to play around with them and be bored of the fight.
@gluestick: Pain with CT?
Akatsuki win. Kisame chakra sponge, Deidara distract with bombs, Konan distract with paper bomb valley, Sasori distract with army of puppets, Pain/Nagato CT to distract, and Itachi sealing for the win. If anyone goes down, Pain/Nagato revives them and they continue the assault until Madara gets sealed. Also if this is healthy Itachi and Nagato, then Madara isn't really sufficiently fast enough to blitz.
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