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Poll Edo Itachi vs Jaygarcia Saturn (57 votes)

Solo King strikes again 44%
Saturn regens from whatever Itachi can dish out 4%
Genjutsu gg, Amaterasu oneshots, or Totsuka blitz your choice 7%
Saturn stares at him 44%
Kotoamatsukami or Izanami oneshots 0%
Looks like a stalemate to me 2%
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Itachi while he's in edo tensei corpse

He has sharingan, MS, and also shusui's eye

Saturn in his awakened zoan form

Straight up fight

No prep with basic knowledge

Who would win?

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Genjutsu

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@platinumchalice: needs chakra to work. so no genjutsu gg lol.
Saturn blitz one shots

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Mismatch.
Saturn obv stomps

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Itachi

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#6  Edited By Pizzagod342

Itachi insta wins by Genjutsu

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#7  Edited By Decaff

Once again an OP character is up against an Edo who they have no win condition against.

Itachi wins without Edo, he would outsmart and set Saturn up, with Edo, Saturn can't even do anything.

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Itachi takes this easily Genjutsu no diff.

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Genjutsu GG

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Genjutsu won't work on Saturn

Saturn just keeps on blinking his head off

They both have no win con so stalemate

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Saturn has no win con and is outmatched in speed/AP and hax. This is a mismatch.

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#13  Edited By Yray

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@yray: based on what?

Pre timeskip luffy has feats of being able to resist mind attacks from100 different people (shadows) simultaneously through sheer willpower. Naturally op top tiers like gorosie scale above this ..especially strong haki users.

Genjutsu has no feats of affecting characters with such level of mental resistance.

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#14  Edited By Decaff

@yray: Itachi can seal him with Totsuka Blade, only Saturn lacks a win condition.

Also Ino can connect her mind with the entire Shinobi alliance which is 80,000 people, and Obito shrugged this off. No reason Itachi wouldn't also.

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#15  Edited By Yray
@decaff said:

@yray: Itachi can seal him with Totsuka Blade, only Saturn lacks a win condition.

Also Ino can connect her mind with the entire Shinobi alliance which is 80,000 people, and Obito shrugged this off. No reason Itachi wouldn't also.

Scans of edo itachi using totsuka blade..

Iirc edos are weaker version of their human self..proof he can use totsuka blade in this form ...or this just headcanon ?

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#16  Edited By Yray

@decaff: ino feat is irrelevant here as the shinobis were her allies and not making any attempt to resist in the first place,and I'm aware genjutsu users have resistance to mind attacks ..so ?

Luffy has feats of mentally crippling 50,000 with 10x the mental resistance of a human which is equivalent to mentally crippling 500k humans ..and any relevant mid tier op characters and above can resist it

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#17  Edited By Omega7373663
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@platinumchalice: needs chakra to work. so no genjutsu gg lol.

Saturn blitz one shots

Regular Genjutsu isn't needed I'm afraid, He can use Tsukuyomi so it doesn't matter, I don't think I need to explain the same shit to you over and over again

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@yray said:
@decaff said:

@yray: Itachi can seal him with Totsuka Blade, only Saturn lacks a win condition.

Also Ino can connect her mind with the entire Shinobi alliance which is 80,000 people, and Obito shrugged this off. No reason Itachi wouldn't also.

Scans of edo itachi using totsuka blade..

Iirc edos are weaker version of their human self..proof he can use totsuka blade in this form ...or this just headcanon ?

No proof that edo somehow doesn't allow you to use some of your abilities so you're the one making the headcanon

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Itachi can either incapacitate him through genjutsu or seal him with Totsuka sword

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#20  Edited By PlagueDocter

@yray: Edo Itachi used Totsuka Blade to pierce and seal Nagato:

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OT: Saturn just glares and Edo Itachi cannot move incapacitating him. Genjutsu/etc doesn't work due to the mental resistances that One Piece characters have even without using haki. Also it won't that it requires them to have Chakra/etc wjich they don't.

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Saturn is a clown who’s been wrecked by Kuma and durability so trash he loses arms and a horn from a collapsed building and stabbed by a fodder marine sword this isn’t close.

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Saturn is a clown who’s been wrecked by Kuma and durability so trash he loses arms and a horn from a collapsed building and stabbed by a fodder marine sword this isn’t close.

Saturn doesn't care what kind AP you can dish out to him, He can regenerate how much he wants and will blink to fodder itachi all day long,

His blinking power can damage juubi lvl durability like G5 luffy,

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While fodder itachi can only physically stalemate KCM nardo,

At best they stalemate.

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#23  Edited By DerTilt

Goroseis are once again confirmed frauds

Itachi solos all 5 at the same time

Ive never seens a manga where the villains getting clowned this hard

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#24  Edited By Supreme101

@monviez3: Saturn won’t regen from having his soul ripped and transported inside a gourd and lmao at Juubi lvl durability luffy

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@yray: Edo Itachi used Totsuka on Edo Nagato, this is common knowledge. And the Ino feat is relevant because TP is scaled using numbers and she can connect her mind with 80,000 people casually. Yet she can't influence the Uchiha this is a called a feat.

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Yeah ion see how Saturn wins if it’s Edo tbh. Itachi eventually seals him.

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@ecoblitz said:

Yeah ion see how Saturn wins if it’s Edo tbh. Itachi eventually seals him.

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@strawdiv said:

@supreme101: kuma>itachi btw

Not really even a building apparently proved stronger than Kuma since it took off Saturns limbs

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@supreme101: all you do is wank naruto and downplay one piece. Get a life smh.

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@supreme101: How does that downscale Kuma lol?
1 HP Kuma was able to survive against Akainu and escape.
This alone upscales 1 HP Kuma by a lot.
He should be able to blitz one shot.

🤣🤣By your logic Koby > Saturn and Kuma since he was able to do this:

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@ecoblitz said:

@supreme101: all you do is wank naruto and downplay one piece. Get a life smh.

Pointing out what happens in the manga s downplay quit yer cryin keep inhalin that copium tho. Argue with oda.

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@strawdiv:

How does that downscale Kuma lol?

because he can't take off limbs yet a collapsed building can

1 HP Kuma was able to survive against Akainu and escape.

Never fought him Akainu also wasn't serious in engaging.

This alone upscales 1 HP Kuma by a lot.

No lmao.

He should be able to blitz one shot.

His strikes can't even take off limbs from saturn a confirmed glass cannon

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Itachi glances and the fight is over.

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@strawdiv:

because he can't take off limbs yet a collapsed building can

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You do know, doing anything against Saturn is upscale for Kuma and Inflicting significant damage, even more so than a few of Gear 5 Luffy's attacks, WHILE BEING ON LITERALLY 1 HP is crazy upsacle.

1 HP Kuma got enough feats to one shot Itachi.

Never fought him Akainu also wasn't serious in engaging.

Akainu was quite serious hence he used attacks THAT HE ONLY USED AGAINST WHITEBEARD.

No lmao.

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His strikes can't even take off limbs from saturn a confirmed glass cannon

1. Saturn had pressed the self-destruct button on Kuma, so that punch can also be seen as kind of an off-guard feat. Saturn did not take significant damage from Gear 5 Luffy's attack when he knew it was coming. So, this feat upscales Kuma without actually downscaling Saturn.

He has shown a higher level of durability against Luffy, proving that it's something he can control. Kuma punching Saturn was more of an off-guard feat but a feat nonetheless.

2. Like I said doing anything against him is an upscale and sending him flying while being literally on 1 HP is godly upscale.

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@strawdiv said:

@platinumchalice: needs chakra to work. so no genjutsu gg lol.

Saturn blitz one shots

Regular Genjutsu isn't needed I'm afraid, He can use Tsukuyomi so it doesn't matter, I don't think I need to explain the same shit to you over and over again

Lets not make shit up.
Genjutsu needs chakra. Trying to emphasis on it only means he has no win cons at all.
Anyway, this shit is a mismatch. Saturn's glare scales to hybrid Kaido's strongest attacks since Saturn can draw blood from G5 Luffy.

Saturn casually looks at him and its GG.

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@strawdiv said:
@omega7373663 said:
@strawdiv said:

@platinumchalice: needs chakra to work. so no genjutsu gg lol.

Saturn blitz one shots

Regular Genjutsu isn't needed I'm afraid, He can use Tsukuyomi so it doesn't matter, I don't think I need to explain the same shit to you over and over again

Lets not make shit up.

Genjutsu needs chakra. Trying to emphasis on it only means he has no win cons at all.

Anyway, this shit is a mismatch. Saturn's glare scales to hybrid Kaido's strongest attacks since Saturn can draw blood from G5 Luffy.

Saturn casually looks at him and its GG.

Tsukuyomi does not require chakra. Repeating the same debunked claim won't magically make you correct.

Consider yourself educated and clapped once again.

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@strawdiv:

You do know, doing anything against Saturn is upscale for Kuma and Inflicting significant damage, even more so than a few of Gear 5 Luffy's attacks, WHILE BEING ON LITERALLY 1 HP is crazy upsacle.

Not really as he's a glass cannon.

1 HP Kuma got enough feats to one shot Itachi.

he struggled to beat a glass cannon who lost limbs to a collapsed building.

Akainu was quite serious hence he used attacks THAT HE ONLY USED AGAINST WHITEBEARD.

Which attack was that oh right he used his Df on an enemy guess Luffy's WB tier since he attacked him with lava

1. Saturn had pressed the self-destruct button on Kuma, so that punch can also be seen as kind of an off-guard feat. Saturn did not take significant damage from Gear 5 Luffy's attack when he knew it was coming. So, this feat upscales Kuma without actually downscaling Saturn.

Nothing is off guard about that he was even pushing back against him when Kuma punched him.

He has shown a higher level of durability against Luffy, proving that it's something he can control. Kuma punching Saturn was more of an off-guard feat but a feat nonetheless.

Luffy just like kuma sent him flying with casual punches at that leaving him a mess who could only return to gight minutes later.

2. Like I said doing anything against him is an upscale and sending him flying while being literally on 1 HP is godly upscale.

yet that punch can't take off limbs unlike a collapsed building lol

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Itachi or stalemate

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itachi seals

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Itachi or stalemate. Saturn Can immobilize Itachi like he did Sanji but can't actually put him down while itachi has the seal option

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Tosuka blade gg

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@decaff said:

@yray: Edo Itachi used Totsuka on Edo Nagato, this is common knowledge. And the Ino feat is relevant because TP is scaled using numbers and she can connect her mind with 80,000 people casually. Yet she can't influence the Uchiha this is a called a feat.

It is irrelevant because like I said luffy practically could mentally cripple 500k humans with coC haki from his feat of knocking out 50k fishmen ...heck shanks who is confirmed to be able to knock out 100k fishmen can't even mentally cripple an admiral or a gorosie in the first place.

And I fail to see how obito being able to resist ino's fodder tp attack changes anything here its not like itachi did put obito in a Genjutsu from what I can remember..so it's irrelevant

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@yray: Yeah idc about opinions that are formed solely so you can ignore feats.

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@strawdiv:

Not really as he's a glass cannon.

no lol

he struggled to beat a glass cannon who lost limbs to a collapsed building.

Off guard feat.

Saturn got knocked out for split second and then the buildings fell on him.

Saturn has shown to s tank Gear 5 Luffy's punches when he knew they were coming.

Plus being able to amp your durability is very much possible since armament haki exists and even Robin can use it 🤣

Which attack was that oh right he used his Df on an enemy guess Luffy's WB tier since he attacked him with lava

Bu your logic named attacks = normal attacks?🤣🤣

and Akainu didn't use any named attacks and Luffy did not fight Akainu or tanked his hits? Have you even read OP?

Nothing is off guard about that he was even pushing back against him when Kuma punched him.

No it was def off guard since he didn't bother to move and can hang with much faster guys like Sanji and Gear 5 Luffy.

I mean why would he be on guard when he knows he can just blow Kuma to bits by just pushing a button??

Def an off guard feat.

Luffy just like kuma sent him flying with casual punches at that leaving him a mess who could only return to gight minutes later.

Your concept of normal and named attacks is very messed up, lol. Luffy used a full-powered named attack on Saturn, and it only managed to send him flying across a few buildings. In this scenario, Saturn very well knew or could literally see Luffy's attack coming. It's not like there is no way for Saturn to amp his durability. Armament Haki is a thing in One Piece, and even Robin has it. Plus, Saturn could have used his glare on Kuma if he was actually on guard; it's his go-to move. This confirms that Saturn getting punched by Kuma and getting half knocked out was an off-guard feat for Kuma which still upscales him.

yet that punch can't take off limbs unlike a collapsed building lol

Again, Saturn was clearly shown to be knocked out for a split second, which is also what upscales Kuma.

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Itachi win

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@strawdiv:

no lol

Stabbed by a fodder sword and lost limbs to a collapsed buildings

Off guard feat.

Not off guard he pushed back

Saturn got knocked out for split second and then the buildings fell on him.

Sill a glass cannon and still knocked out

Saturn has shown to s tank Gear 5 Luffy's punches when he knew they were coming.

never tanked any punches

Plus being able to amp your durability is very much possible since armament haki exists and even Robin can use it 🤣

No feats

Bu your logic named attacks = normal attacks?🤣🤣

And guess what even normal attacks have damaged him.

and Akainu didn't use any named attacks and Luffy did not fight Akainu or tanked his hits? Have you even read OP?

Luffy never fought Akainu or tanked anything. He was attacked, statued and hit by lava in which could have killed him even when the damage was lessened.

No it was def off guard since he didn't bother to move and can hang with much faster guys like Sanji and Gear 5 Luffy.

he knew bonney was coming at him yet didn't dodge also it clearly shows him pshing back against kumas punch your denying the manga

I mean why would he be on guard when he knows he can just blow Kuma to bits by just pushing a button??

Because Kuma is attacking him????

Def an off guard feat.

Copium

Your concept of normal and named attacks is very messed up, lol. Luffy used a full-powerednamed attackon Saturn, and it only managed to send him flying across a few buildings.

Those were casual strikes

In this scenario, Saturn very well knew or could literally see Luffy's attack coming.It's not like there is no way for Saturn to amp his durability. Armament Haki is a thing in One Piece, and even Robin has it.

Still lost his limbs to a collapsed building

Plus, Saturn could have used his glare on Kuma if he was actually on guard; it's his go-to move. This confirms that Saturn getting punched by Kuma and getting half knocked out was an off-guard feat for Kuma which still upscales him.

More copium

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@strawdiv: Before I debunk your assumptions, it has been confirmed that the Gorosei are immortals in Chapter 1111. And one of them even has Conqueror's Haki. So your claim that they can't even use basic armament to enhance their durability is laughable.

Stabbed by a fodder sword and lost limbs to a collapsed buildings

Getting stabbed is not an anti-feat in any way. Fused Momoshiki got stabbed, Naruto got stabbed, Sasuke got stabbed, and hell, even Jigen was afraid to get stabbed.

Not off guard he pushed back

Nope, he clearly did not give a fk about Kuma, and rightfully so. You don't expect a battered dude who's also missing a foot to do any significant damage to you. Plus he had that self destruct assurance s well.

Sill a glass cannon and still knocked out

Again, it was very clearly an off-guard feat, so any damage taken after that attack does not affect Saturn's scale.

never tanked any punches

He has done it twice already. The first time he got sent back but took no visible damage, and the second time he wasn't even affected by it.

No feats

He has clear feats, and on numerous occasions, their Haki has been complimented. Hell, the boar dude has Conqueror's Haki; he knocked people out in the recent chapter using it.
One piece chapter 1111

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As a matter of fact, their strong Haki has been pointed out by all top tiers. Here's when Saturn pulled up to Egghead.

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Again in the recent chapter when others pulled up,

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Here's another confirmation from Jinbei

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And guess what even normal attacks have damaged him.

off guard feat plus they are confirmed immortals in chapter 1111,

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Luffy never fought Akainu or tanked anything. He was attacked, statued and hit by lava in which could have killed him even when the damage was lessened.

do you not understand the concept of named attacks?
Kuma took attacks that were arguably STRONNGER VERSION of the attacks WB faced as AKAINU HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TOO BE STRONGER after the TIMESKIP.

he knew bonney was coming at him yet didn't dodge also it clearly shows him pshing back against kumas punch your denying the manga

Not really, it's an off-guard situation, and I've already explained why. Bonny has the Distorted Future Ability, which is hax of the highest level, far higher than Tsukuyomi. She shouldn't even be in this conversation. At the age of 5 or something, Bonny copied the abilities of a GOD just by hearing stories about him.

Because Kuma is attacking him????

already explained why,
god complex + no need + assurance

Copium

lol this is coming from someone who claimed 5 elders can't amp their durability 🤣🤣

Those were casual strikes

Sure bud.

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Still lost his limbs to a collapsed building

Off guard feat

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Itachi glances and the fight is over.

That’s literally what Saturn does….

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#50  Edited By Supreme101

@strawdiv:

Before I debunk your assumptions, it has been confirmed that theGorosei are immortals in Chapter 1111.And one of them even hasConqueror's Haki. So your claim that they can't even use basic armament to enhance their durability is laughable.

Guess he has haki so terrible fodder marine sword can slash him. Also that wasn't saturn so no proof for him. Also theres no confirmation they're immortal thats a question wondered by one of the giants as well as a statement from luffy who also lacks knowlege

Getting stabbed is not an anti-feat in any way. Fused Momoshiki got stabbed, Naruto got stabbed, Sasuke got stabbed, and hell, even Jigen was afraid to get stabbed.

From a fodder marine sword hell yeah it is. At least weapons in naruto are said to be stronger based on the user and infused with chakra.

Nope, he clearly did not give a fk about Kuma, and rightfully so. You don't expect a battered dude who's also missing a foot to do any significant damage to you. Plus he had that self destruct assurance s well.

More copium.

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Again, it was very clearly an off-guard feat, so any damage taken after that attack does not affect Saturn's scale.

You have yet to prove it;s off guard non of the context even so much as imply it.

He has done it twice already. The first time he got sent back but took no visible damage, and the second time he wasn't even affected by it.

Punches from a 1hp kuma and a casual luffy lol he even still needed pages to recover that's the sad part too.

He has clear feats, and on numerous occasions, their Haki has been complimented. Hell, t

he boar dude has Conqueror's Haki; he knocked people out in the recent chapter using it.

Didn't know Saturn was a boar. And that feat didn't even take out admirals or dory and Broggy

As a matter of fact, their strong Haki has been pointed out by all top tiers. Here's when Saturn pulled up to Egghead.

And?

off guard feat plus they are confirmed immortals in chapter 1111,

Not off guard and that was a statement from Luffy who lacked knowledge. Panels later he contradicts himself.

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do you not understand the concept of named attacks?

Kuma took attacks that were arguably STRONNGER VERSION of the attacks WB faced as AKAINU HAS BEEN CONFIRMED TOO BE STRONGER after the TIMESKIP.

Kuma>WB hell nah💀That was an Akainu who's very life was put on the line and was getting ragdolled. Akainu was easily ragdolling him

Not really, it's an off-guard situation, and I've already explained why. Bonny has the Distorted Future Ability, which is hax of the highest level, far higher than Tsukuyomi. She shouldn't even be in this conversation. At the age of 5 or something, Bonny copied the abilities of a GOD just by hearing stories about him.

More lies. He could have doged if he wanted too. he wasn't off guard from anything.

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