Edo Hashirama vs Transcendent Aizen

RC and invisibility restricted.

Speed equalized.

sigh, Island tier hashirama vs the 3rd strongest character in the bleach verse.

Spite match.

What is this? Many threads have been made about Madara vs Aizen and the outcome still the same, Madara wins.

• Hashirama>Madara in any aspect.

Hashirama wins low diff.

Hashirama:

• Speed
• Strength
• Durability
• Skill
• Precog
• Versatility
• Regen

Aizen:

• Regen
• Power

Which version of Transcendent Aizen? There are like 5 of them.

Aizen KS GG

@ovy7: butterfly aizen

@marplay: how strong would u say transcendent Aizen is? Cuz if he isn't above large country lvl, Hashi stomps with ease.

@whatamiseeing: this aizen doesnt have ks

@marplay: hasirama doesnt have precog. where are you getting your info from

@ob1toe: butterfly aizen does

@whatamiseeing: maybe im wrong but i swear that once he became his butterfly state/monster aizen his zanpakuto stopped working and was only back to normal after the hokgyku was removed

@ob1toe: Thats what some people guess because he didnt use KS on Ichigo but thats speculation. The zanpaktou is in his hand dont see why he cant use it

Butterfly Aizen wins this low/mid diff at worst. Tnx to CFYOW we know that base Aizen is still stronger than EoS characters like Shunsui, Yoruichi, and Byakuya, which gives credence to the statement from FKT about base Aizen being stronger than all of the Espada combined. This also means that the likes of SE Ulquiorra and VL Ichigo are also weaker than base Aizen (so this already puts base Aizen at like island/large-island lvl AP). Then you got his Chrysalis state which made him able to stomps characters who were somewhat similar on his base lvl, then is his 2nd form which made him able to destroy Captain lvl characters with just Reiatsu/touching them (like he did to Gin's arm when he stoled the Houkyokyu), and then is his Butterfly form which is even stronger than that.

I could see this Aizen being in the country lvl range because of the scaling chain, and even without that, he should be in a similar ballpark to Shikai Kenpachi tnx to him being transcendent.

Hashi claps...with his Senpō Mokuton: Shin Sūsenju

Aizen stomps.

As far as my knowledge goes about Aizen

• Aizen in DC vape a large mountain with fragor.
• Aizen in AP, I'm not quite sure.

Sage Mode

Hashi stomps. (going with feats)

Physical Strength of Hashirama scales above Madara.

Vaporizing millions of steels from millions of snakes.

Note:

• 1 casual swing.
• No sweat.
• No heavy breathing.
• With ease.
• Didn't bother to any recoil.

Below the crater.

Look the pinewoods are drawfs compared to the height of the crater. Pinewood has an average of 60m in height and the crater are dwarfing these trees. Plus Naruto trees are huge compared to real-life trees so this is with super lowball.

• Now a DC of mountain height and DC of town to small citywide is this feat, imagine its AP.
• Vaporizing millions of steel from the casual swing.
• Hashirama captured and pet 8 Mountain like Bijuus.

Madara limbo which is him in another dimension punches 9 Mountain like Bijuus with utter ease and sends them flying off the ground and never fought again.

Whose sizes is something like this

Kurama easily breaks the mass of large multi-mountain by merely transforming into an incomplete Kyubi. He did not even try to break it with a punch or anything it's just his body merely growing and broke the CT. Full Kurama has physical AP of Multi Large Island considering his size that can destroy 20x bigger than him.

That mountain range is similar to or > Konoha where its diameter is larger than 20km Forest of Death and Konoha is bigger and is around 70km to 80km in diameter.

And Kurama broke the Gravitational Compressive force of CT that pulled 70 to 80km in diameter of a mass of mountain range.

• Kurama going against the Gravitational Compressive Force of CT
• 6 tails tanking a barrage of landmass several kilometers at high speed is impressive.
• Madara knocked out and send 50% of Kurama flying off the ground by a mere punch and never fought again not just Kurama but another 8 just like him who have the same physicals.

Hashirama doesn't have transcendent reiatsu, so he can't touch Aizen.

The "mountains" in Naruto are 17 meter hills. Gamabunta dwarfs the hills and he is 1700 cm high in Shipudden according to the OFFICIAL databook.

People forget that camera angles in panels make things look bigger from a distance. Naruto and Byakuya have the same high in these panels. Gerard is bigger but people like to wank Naruto to heaven and beyond god.

Yeah small mountains lmao 😂😂😂

yeah theres more

Relative to their normal Trees.

Official manga hills + canon 1700cm height > filler mountains

@epichotflame: I consider them both Multi-continental level

@ovy7: I’m also leaning towards Aizen in a mid-diff fight (maybe high diff)

I'm pretty sure the Author and Artists know what hills and mountains look like.

• Knows how to draw big and small mountains.
• Knows what hills are.

Seriously? Is that how you perceive every geographical terrain in Naruto? Hills?

Now you acknowledge some things in the databook?

• 17m Gamabunta
• Light Speed Jutsu of Haku
• Omnipotence Kakashi
• Universal Temari
• Light Speed Samurai Slash

The thing my dude is when we put it in context is this really possible? Does it really apply relative to other things around the area? Does it fit the idea of what is really shown in the manga and anime?

I'm curious if it's really shown in the manga and anime that Gamabunta is 17m tall.

• Could you show us?

Now if you are gonna say its from official databook then this must be true:

• 17m Gamabunta
• Light Speed Jutsu of Haku
• Omnipotence Kakashi
• Universal Temari
• Light Speed Samurai Slash

Despite what is shown in the manga and anime these has to be true.

Thank god, author and artist don't care about size. If they do thank god he remeber that Gamabunta and the tail beast are 1700cm.

@marplay said:

@naruto_buster said:

Official manga hills + canon 1700cm height > filler mountains

Seriously? Is that how you perceive every geographical terrain in Naruto? Hills?

Kishimoto does.

Now you acknowledge some things in the databook?

When did I not? Are you going to compare to the whole fan base?

• · 17m Gamabunta

• · Yes.

• · Light Speed Jutsu of Haku

• · Nowhere its stated to be light speed in the databook.

• · Omnipotence Kakashi

• · OMNIPOTENCE YHWACH, ICHIGO, AND SOUL KING CONFIRMED!

• · Universal Temari

• · UNIVERSAL SUSANO'O!

• · Light Speed Samurai Slash

• · SHOW ME!

The thing my dude is when we put it in context is this really possible? Does it really apply relative to other things around the area? Does it fit the idea of what is really shown in the manga and anime?

YES! anime is filler

I'm curious if it's really shown in the manga and anime that Gamabunta is 17m tall.

• · Could you show us?

Post #22

Now if you are gonna say its from official databook then this must be true:

• · 17m Gamabunta

• · Light Speed Jutsu of Haku

• · Omnipotence Kakashi

• · Universal Temari

• · Light Speed Samurai Slash

LMAO

Despite what is shown in the manga and anime this has to be true.

You are very brilliant. Can't even distinguish reality from flavory language. Kudos.

@naruto_buster:

Seriously? Is that how you perceive every geographical terrain in Naruto? Hills?

^This is for you mate.

Post #23

• Do they look like hills?
• 17m?

For reference, this is what 20m looks like.

@naruto_buster:

"You are very brilliant. Can't even distinguish reality from flavory language. Kudos."

I could say the same thought.

You are so genius. Can't even distinguish mountains from hills and can't even tell what 17m looks like relative to large trees.

Hashirama

Except those mountains you are comparing to official databook info are anime filler. 1700cm hills is the canon. Flavory language isn't. You are correct if Naruto and Sasuke inside their avatars are GIANTS compared to those "mountains".

@naruto_buster: lol ok 😂😂😂

I surrender.

I hope you convinced some users here with enough comprehension of what their sizes really are.

After all, it's your opinion and perception gotta respect that.

Honestly I won't even bother arguing that at all. It's clear as day that 20m is tree size, trees in Naruto are bigger than irl trees and Gama dwarfs it massively

Thank God someone with a fully grown brain can comprehend a simple panel and scenes in manga and anime.

• My mistake is to argue with him in the first place.

@marplay: lmao not ur fault, I also fell victim and argued that for 3 pages trying to see if I can reason with him but it seemed impossible.

@drax5343: how tf did u get both of them to those lvls???

KS gg

WOAAH 3 PAGES? LOL 😂😂😂

Let's not waste our time on people like this.

We could argue with some people for 3 pages or more and it's worth of time and effort but people like this? Nah Nah, I'm out.

ofc lol

@epichotflame: Do they really think aizens fodder self can defeat hashriama?

Aizen isnt fodder but i wonder what AP his fragor has cuz it's DC is trash, if it's AP isnt above large country lvl then wood sage mode Hashi casual stomps since speed is equalised.

@epichotflame: Even if speed wasnt equalized hashi still stomps

@rmanao: lol no, Hashi isn't fast enough for Aizen. Hashi is sub rel at max, Aizen is rel+

Who is above Aizen? just curious, i was thinking Ywach and Ichigo but isnt Aizen technically stronger than Ywach? its been ahwile since ive looked into bleach much so im pretty curious how the tier lists are rn

@lonelysloth: Yhwach is stronger than both Aizen and Ichigo overall though Ichigo has more raw AP. SK probably has more raw AP than Ichigo. If Yamamoto really did beat Yhwach then he should be up there too. Full potential Uryu too. Though even TYBW Uryu could probably beat Ichigo and Aizen due to had despite being significantly weaker than them. Actually with hax Lille and Gerard are also threats to Ichigo and Aizen. Maybe even Nanao with her sword.

Aizen stomps.