Godzilla is dumped several miles off the shore of Marineford, and all the Admirals gather to intercept with a large fleet of ships. Can they stop this Godzilla then and there?
Everyone is current.
Anime feats only.
Death, Incap, or KO
@sirfizzwhizz
Yay! I love to see what arguments for the Admirals can do to beat this version of GZ. Arguing pro GZ for this one hard.
First issue is can any of the Admirals tank megaton nukes blasts?
Godzilla atomic beams are stated to casually range int he three Terawatts range. Terrawatts are measured per hour of energy output, and once converted to kilotons is equivalent to 2.5 megatons nukes concentrated in a energy beam.
Godzilla is able to generate a Electromagnetic Atomic Wave like attack through his tail that levels the forest and mini mountain formations.
Earth Godzilla's atomic breath in Oscillatory Wave form, and measured as 900 Gigawatts of atomic back power. That is the sum energy of 900 Lightning Bolts combine. Gigawatts is measured per hour of energy output, and when converted to kilotons equals 774 Kilotons of TNT in energy in this blast wave attack, which is right under a megaton nuke.
@sirfizzwhizz
Yay! I love to see what arguments for the Admirals can do to beat this version of GZ. Arguing pro GZ for this one hard.
First issue is can any of the Admirals tank megaton nukes blasts?
Godzilla atomic beams are stated to casually range int he three Terawatts range. Terrawatts are measured per hour of energy output, and once converted to kilotons is equivalent to 2.5 megatons nukes concentrated in a energy beam.
Buddy, I explained this in the Kaiju Respect Thread, 3 terawatts is 0.72 kilotons a second ~ 3 000 gigajoules/s. The megaton result you're getting from those calculators is the result of total energy the lizard generates after letting out his beam continuously for a whole hour. Hence the term terawatt-hour.
Same thing goes for the 900 gigawatt estimate. That's just 215 tons of tnt/s.
3 terawatts ~ 717 tons of tnt/sec
900 gigawatts ~ 215 tons of tnt/sec
@sirfizzwhizz
Yay! I love to see what arguments for the Admirals can do to beat this version of GZ. Arguing pro GZ for this one hard.
First issue is can any of the Admirals tank megaton nukes blasts?
Godzilla atomic beams are stated to casually range int he three Terawatts range. Terrawatts are measured per hour of energy output, and once converted to kilotons is equivalent to 2.5 megatons nukes concentrated in a energy beam.
Buddy, I explained this in the Kaiju Respect Thread, 3 terawatts is 0.72 kilotons a second ~ 3 000 gigajoules/s. The megaton result you're getting from those calculators is the result of total energy the lizard generates after letting out his beam continuously for a whole hour. Hence the term terawatt-hour.
Same thing goes for the 900 gigawatt estimate. That's just 215 tons of tnt/s.
3 terawatts ~ 717 tons of tnt/sec
900 gigawatts ~ 215 tons of tnt/sec
Yes and no., As some on Spacebattles explain as well we dont use terms like Gigawatts or Terrawatts in per second, we use those in terms of per hour. They never mention per second either. So the energy sum is terrawatts per hours worth of energy in the blast. Which makes ALOT more sense as that matches the feats we do get and read about.
Also this helps for frame of reference.
3 terrawatts is stated as fact 51% the total energy consumption of electricity of the country of America at any given time.
2 Gigawatts alone power the entire states of Arizona, southern california, and Southern Nevada at the same time, much less 900 Gigawatts of energy.
Though this is comparing watts to watts-hours and most measurements always use watt-hours for measurements, not watts. So I prefer to use Watt-Hours that match the visual feats actually. Using normal Watts contradict the feats.
@sirfizzwhizz
Yay! I love to see what arguments for the Admirals can do to beat this version of GZ. Arguing pro GZ for this one hard.
First issue is can any of the Admirals tank megaton nukes blasts?
Godzilla atomic beams are stated to casually range int he three Terawatts range. Terrawatts are measured per hour of energy output, and once converted to kilotons is equivalent to 2.5 megatons nukes concentrated in a energy beam.
Buddy, I explained this in the Kaiju Respect Thread, 3 terawatts is 0.72 kilotons a second ~ 3 000 gigajoules/s. The megaton result you're getting from those calculators is the result of total energy the lizard generates after letting out his beam continuously for a whole hour. Hence the term terawatt-hour.
Same thing goes for the 900 gigawatt estimate. That's just 215 tons of tnt/s.
3 terawatts ~ 717 tons of tnt/sec
900 gigawatts ~ 215 tons of tnt/sec
Yes and no., As some on Spacebattles explain as well we dont use terms like Gigawatts or Terrawatts in per second, we use those in terms of per hour. They never mention per second either. So the energy sum is terrawatts per hours worth of energy in the blast. Which makes ALOT more sense as that matches the feats we do get and read about.
Also this helps for frame of reference.
3 terrawatts is stated as fact 51% the total energy consumption of electricity of the country of America at any given time.
2 Gigawatts alone power the entire states of Arizona, southern california, and Southern Nevada at the same time, much less 900 Gigawatts of energy.
Though this is comparing watts to watts-hours and most measurements always use watt-hours for measurements, not watts. So I prefer to use Watt-Hours that match the visual feats actually. Using normal Watts contradict the feats.
That's fine, you can use whatever unit you like, all I'm saying it the results you're getting from terawatt or gigawatt or megawatt - hour is the total energy released after an hour of continuously pouring it out. As in the burst of Electromagnetic breath Godzilla lets out is not those results from those calculators unless he keeping shooting out his beam for a whole hour to build up that energy release.
Also that spacebattles user probably has the mind of a 10 year old because they have no idea what they're even talking about lol. Watt(s) is = joule(s) per second, that's the unit. It's the literal definition, a Google search away. This is like what 6th - 8th grade physics.
Watt-hour = total number of watts after an hour
Watt(s) = joule(s) every second
@sirfizzwhizz: I don't know how much you know about OP so if anything is unclear just lmk. The "anime only" thing is weird for this thread, especially since one of the Admirals has no anime feats yet, and I'll use manga panels but I won't use anything that wasn't shown in the anime, except for Greenbull.
First off, 4/7 Admirals have a form of intangibility. Akainu is magma, Aokiji is ice, Kizaru is light and Greenbull is a forest. Don't know if Godzilla is supposed to be able to hit them, but if he's not directly allowed in this thread, it would need to be explained how he could get past their varying forms of intangibility, with Kizaru's probably being the hardest since he's literally light.
For megatons blasts, Franky took this explosion before the timeskip:
Pre-Timeskip Franky is less than fodder to the Admirals.
Fujitora, arguably the weakest Admiral (besides Z who is non-canon, and I didn't watch that movie) effectively no sold a hit from Gear 3rd Luffy. Luffy without Gears breaks cliffs by accident. If you specifically want energy feats, it took Akainu ten days to defeat Aokiji despite his magma, and Greenbull's (also arguably the weakest Admiral) regeneration allows him to come back from the Boro Breath. Here's Kaido's first on-screen Boro Breath, for reference. There's a lot further you could take this, but I understand you probably want some more concrete things to work off of, and this should be at least enough for megatons.
Even with the higher-end results, assuming the information included is Godzilla’s best or limit even, any of the Admirals solo.
Proof? You literally brought jack shit as proof.
Easiest way to win is for Fujitora to levitate Godzilla in the sky and win by incap. Interesting trying to nerf the Admirals with anime only feats but with Z being here I'm assuming film feats are allowed to? In which case, Kizaru and Z no sold an island level blast, not that atomic breath is ever tagging the Admirals anyway.
Why wont it tag them? Unless they love jumping miles away distances? GZ wipes out whole cities with a single beam attack.
Not to mention the Radioactivity fallout of every attack and the nuclear fires.
Earth Godzilla is stated to put off so much radiation that the entire planet earth's ecosystem was mutated, and that the very atmosphere and water was toxic to humans. So massive proof is needed of Radiation resistance.
Their is also the Nuclear heat shield to deal with.
Godzilla is able to generate a heat shield like attack that manipulates the molecules around him for the super heat effect. The heat shield is so hot that city block busting rail guns melted and disintegrated as soon as they touch the shield.
Plus they have no way to harm Godzilla in turn thanks to his forcefield.
Earth Godzilla is stated able to generate a Electromagnetic shield that acts like a force field to all forms of damage.
The only weakness of the shield was using a special counter interference wave that amplify the noise wavelength of the organ that generates the shield. This causes a fracture in the shield, and focusing on this fracture allows you to drop the shield for a very short time before it comes back up.
The shield is strong enough to withstand 150 nuclear missiles in a single attack. America's landscape was reshape with visible craters that can be seen from space from the attack. Also stated that far weaker in power 50m in size Godzilla in the 20th Century tank a 40 Megaton Nuclear Plasma shot without damage.
@sirfizzwhizz: @cocacolaman: I'm no calc guy but it should be mentioned that Kuzan's ice is at least as durable as steel and Akainu vaporized a small mountain of said ice instantly upon contact.
His magma also matched Whitebeard's quake, which are powerful enough to shatter full mountain sized volumes of Kuzan's ice, split islands in half and tilt and section the sea, sending tsunamis many kilometres away to other islands.
All of this DC/AP talk doesn't really matter though as Godzilla has no defence against being levitated in the sky by Fujitora, either being kept their for incap or bombarded until he dies.
Yeah those are good, but...
Godzilla collapses the mini black hole singularity, and his beam, and it still had energy to travel far out into space after that. look at the size of the energy beam to the earth itself!
@sirfizzwhizz: I don't know how much you know about OP so if anything is unclear just lmk. The "anime only" thing is weird for this thread, especially since one of the Admirals has no anime feats yet, and I'll use manga panels but I won't use anything that wasn't shown in the anime, except for Greenbull.
First off, 4/7 Admirals have a form of intangibility. Akainu is magma, Aokiji is ice, Kizaru is light and Greenbull is a forest. Don't know if Godzilla is supposed to be able to hit them, but if he's not directly allowed in this thread, it would need to be explained how he could get past their varying forms of intangibility, with Kizaru's probably being the hardest since he's literally light.
For megatons blasts, Franky took this explosion before the timeskip:
Pre-Timeskip Franky is less than fodder to the Admirals.
Fujitora, arguably the weakest Admiral (besides Z who is non-canon, and I didn't watch that movie) effectively no sold a hit from Gear 3rd Luffy. Luffy without Gears breaks cliffs by accident. If you specifically want energy feats, it took Akainu ten days to defeat Aokiji despite his magma, and Greenbull's (also arguably the weakest Admiral) regeneration allows him to come back from the Boro Breath. Here's Kaido's first on-screen Boro Breath, for reference. There's a lot further you could take this, but I understand you probably want some more concrete things to work off of, and this should be at least enough for megatons.
Megatons is like average regular blasts, as GZ can charge up for casual island to above blasts.
As for intangibility I need to see proof it works on energy attacks, as last i check energy attacks still affect Logia, and I really need to see these Logia tanking nuclear level heats (20,000 degree area) and tanking radiation energy since Logia or not they are living beings.
Radiation won't kill a character made of photons. You're arguing Godzilla is mountain level in power. That's fodder to the weakest among the Admirals.
Mountain level is a fraking lie and you know it. I posted better than mountain in my last post already. Secondly, prove Kizaru who eats, sleeps, and has biological functions like seeing and talking, ect is immune to radiation. prove it. Photons cannot see, hear, talk, eat, sleep, or have a physical body when not in Logia form. Prove it.
@ryuko_matoi77: My reply was to sirfizz who is making the argument that 2.5 megatons nukes leveling mini mountain formations is impressive. Both of which would be unimpressive for an Admiral. The feats you are citing isn't what he's arguing.
I posted better feats than 2 megaton since then though. Thats his casual blasts, not even better ones. His casual blasts are akin to One Piece better attacks. GZ Earth best attacks exceed anything in One Piece.
Godzilla collapses the mini black hole singularity, and his beam travels far out into space after that. These are also stated confirm space and time bending blackholes.
Ghidorah generates a stated a real world naturally occurring singularity that bends time and space with its very gravitational presence.
Stated that the Singularities have Ergospheres. Ergospheres is the region outside of rotating black holes.
Ghidorah generates singularities on earth to attack Godzilla via its dimension. so already we have a feat Far superior to ANYTHING in One Piece. I can add more too like these.
The weaker 50 meter Godzilla was able to use his atomic beam to melt part of the Himalaya mountains and same attack after that also wipe out the Bay of Bengal as well. Thats country busting stuff right there. All this after 2000 Megatons, aka 2 Teratons mind ya, were detonated on Godzilla to begin with to bury him at the mountains tectonic plate fault.
Godzilla with two casual blasts wipes out the Nanometal made Mechagodzilla City. Nanometal is more durable than anything on earth, and able to withstand lava temperature heats with little issue. How durable is this city made of nano metal? This nano metal is impossible by physics strength, and again diffuses heat energy, yet for all its strength and heat diffusing a single charge blast wrecks it.
In the Godzilla prequel canon novels for the Anime, Gorath was a 30km in diameter asteroid with the same mass and weight of the moon in its tiny form. The weaker 50m Godzilla after two years of charging use a beam that flew 300km into space blowing up Gorath denser moon mass, and wrecked half the surface of Earth in the blow back of the beam. Current version Godzilla Earth is stated as in fact six times stronger than the Godzilla that was able to pull this off. Godzilla Earth has 1000 years of charging at this point of the events of Godzilla anime and is stated 6 times stronger than his 50m size self in 20th contrary.
There is also the heat damage factor and radiation.Which One Piece has no answer for.
Fujitora exceeds the speed of the light quite easily and
Who cares about speed when the battlefield is covered in gamma rays and nuclear fire in seconds?
those weak attacks aren't much compared to the Admirals as you've been told multiple times.
Prove it. Not one of you OP fans showed a feat comparable to what i shown. Or any feat for that matter. You know how this game works.
As for moving while using his powers: yes, he's had an extended fight with Luffy whilst floating a city in the air.
Doesnt change much, he is running through miles of radiation fallout and nuclear fire. Still dead. Also has his power work on electromagnetic fields?
Kizaru has indeed jumped miles away at the speed of light in a fight lol
Then he is not contributing to the fight. His best attacks are close range and he is not doing shit for damage on the EM field now is he? So....
This isn't impressive. Z and Kizaru took no damage from an island level attack.
Thats not the point though lol. The point was to show Godzilla has large AOE of effect with a single attack and how the battle field be a nuclear gamma ray radiation fire death zone in the first attack. Admirals cannot swim in the ocean and on the land they are on is now deadly to them.
Mountain level is a fraking lie and you know it.
Did your first post in this thread not have mountain level feats?
I posted better than mountain in my last post already.
I didn't pay it any attention, mountain level is such a low starting point I didn't bother.
Secondly, prove Kizaru who eats, sleeps, and has biological functions like seeing and talking, ect is immune to radiation. prove it. Photons cannot see, hear, talk, eat, sleep, or have a physical body when not in Logia form. Prove it.
Logia are passively their element Rayleigh was only able to touch Kizaru because he had Haki.
Also it isn't an ability they have to turn on as it has shown to work during sleep.
So in short Logia's will be their element no matter what Gozilla can do to them. However their are ways around this as stated in the above scan. Such as elemental weaknesses e.g. Crocodile being wet.
And electromagnetic does not affect Photons? You need to go back to six grade science, its does.
Not enough to suggest it could harm a character made of photons that moves at speeds faster than light. See now you're having a proper back and forth.
I admitted defeat when logia users have no proof to tank radiation, energy attacks that destroy space time singularities in impossible fashion, or burning the air that clearly Logia users need to breath? Riiiight.
You opted to argue a NLF instead of making arguments on why that wouldn't work. That's the thing I'd expect from someone who lacks proper argumentation.
Now seeing you make arguments instead of spouting NLF there are things I disagree with, agree with and questions I have.
Radiation wouldn't harm a logia. As you probably know radiation does harm to life by damaging dna, cells and other natural processes. Logia's elemental bodies aren't cells. What more proof do you need that these character are elements?
Are you arguing that Godzilla energy attacks have some esoteric ability to damage spacetime? In that case I would agree it the beam could harm or kill a logia. But it becomes a case of can Godzilla tag them. If not then I would argue that some Admirals being casually continental would over power this energy attack. The attack that you placed at country busting.
I don't think their is definitive proof logia's need to breath. They have devil fruit weakness so drowning any of them would work. However Enel flew to the moon, traveling through the vacuum shows air isn't necessary even though they breath.
I already did. Your just using NLF from my perspective here.
I'm only now seeing them.
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