Dying Itachi vs Endgame Thanos and his Army

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Poll Dying Itachi vs Endgame Thanos and his Army (70 votes)

Itachi solos Thanos and his Army 56%
Thanos and his army decimated him 7%
Thanos solos comfortably 16%
Genjutsu GG 17%
Totsuka blitz GG 4%

This is Itachi when he fought Sasuke (before he dies)

Tsukuyomi is restricted but other abilities, ninja tools are permitted

Itachi has knowledge

Thanos has IG, blade, the Black Order, hundred Outriders, Chitauris and dozen leviathans

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Love thanos, but itachi solos

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Solo king Solo's

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Itachi solos. This might even be a stomp (I'm pretty sure it's a stomp).

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It's a shitstomp.

Itachi neg diffs the entire verse.

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Itachi takes them to school.

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Honestly I'm not sure Itachi has the stamina. He'll have to amaterasu Thanos and the Leviathans and there's no way he can do that 13 times.

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Statues get gg’d

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Itachi wins casually.

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Itachi scales off batgod so this is a mismatch.

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This wank...

Dying Itachi has no chance here against all of that.

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#13  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

WOWOWOW I messed up.

If Thanos has the IG then Thanos Team wins comfortable.

But I voted without realizing that Thanos had the IG (I assumed you would restrict it for obvious reasons), and in THAT scenario, the MCU team gets Blitzed and can't penetrate Susano'o.

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Itachi.

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Itachi has knowledge

Thanos has IG

Itachi uses genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself and his army away.

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WOWOWOW I messed up.

If Thanos has the IG then Thanos Team wins comfortable.

But I voted without realizing that Thanos had the IG (I assumed you would restrict it for obvious reasons), and in THAT scenario, the MCU team gets Blitzed and can't penetrate Susano'o.

But Itachi has knowledge, so he just uses genjutsu and makes Thanos use the gauntlet against his own team.

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Itachi has knowledge

Thanos has IG

Itachi uses genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself and his army away.

This. Thanos team have zero chance.

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Mismatch in our Lord favor

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Itachi makes thanos snap his army out of existence.

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#22  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@alextheboss: Thats not how Genjutsu and the Gauntlet work. Its hard to explain, but I think that having all 6 stones, Specifically the Reality, Mind, and Soul stones, would allow Thanos to heavily Resist Genjutsu and see through any illusions, especially when you exclude Tsukuyomi. Thats mostly heresay but other characters have attempted to use Illusions against IG wielders before and it fails every time, notably, Dr Strange comes to mind from IW.

Beyond that, For thr Gauntlet to work relies on the Reality Stone, which is an incredibly difficult power to control and actually utilize to your advantage.

Im on mobile so ill just use this Copy-Paste from Reddit to explain the Reality Stone alone, in tandem with the Gauntlet:

“Thanos says it requires great intellect and imagination to even grasp its power, let alone operate it. You want to create chocolate - but did you really? What is that chocolate you want? Milk or dark? Can you envision the subtleties of its flavor? The chemical composition? Can you divorce the physicality of your envisioned chocolate from the emotionally charged experience of your girlfriend feeding you a piece five years ago? If you apply heat, does it boil or freeze? What temperature? What is its viscosity?

Or is all that 'chocolate' just a mere memory of a taste riding on a tide of dim recollection?

As an average person, all that stuff seems 'obvious' until you actually try to pin it down - then you see how many misconceptions and missing facts you had. It's a problem that pops up often in the gulf between layman perception and computer science:

https://xkcd.com/1425/

I believe the Reality gem requires you to very, very thoroughly envision what you are trying to bring into reality. Reed-98570 here surely thought, at least a few times, 'I wish all the heroes attacking me would disappear:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3040905-f-18.jpg

But even he couldn't just poof them out of existence. He had to kill them one by one. Even the Infinity Gauntlet is not a sentient wishing lamp. It can't parse vaguely expressed desires in a language intended more for distributing fruit among monkeys than describing the nature of the universe. Instead, in the end all he got was something that he already understood the properties of - a shitload of energy

The Hood had the same problem when he got his hands on the Power and Reality gems. He should have been unstoppable, right?

Nope: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1527857-power001.jpg

He expressly states that it's much more involved than just wishing for something. In the end, he never figured out how to use them to their full power.

While the power of the gauntlet may be limitless, the person wielding it certainly is not, and even more so for the Reality gem. It seems trivial to be limited by the imagination, but that's only because we imagine our imaginations to be much vaster than they actually are.“

TL;DR: Its not as simple as “Genjutsu GG” when dealing with the fundamental building blocks of the Universe. Itachi would have to do more than change Thanos’s perception of the world around him, he would have to change his Worldviews and the psychology of the Mad Titan, which I really doubt he’d be able to do to a Normal Person without Kotoamatsukami, let alone Thanos.

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@swordofdamocles said:

@alextheboss said:

Itachi has knowledge

Thanos has IG

Itachi uses genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself and his army away.

This. Thanos team have zero chance.

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@redshift_bacon: But the stones aren't passively activated. I'm sure Thanos could dissolve a genjutsu with the stones if he realized he was in an illusion, but if he snaps away his team before realizing it he would be screwed.

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#25  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@alextheboss: Again, its not as simple as "tricking Thanos into beliving he is snapping Itachi" the Infinity Stones require much more intimate thought than that. Thats why Malekith with the Aether didn't just instant-bang the 9-Realms with the Reality Stone, because he doesn't have the mental capacity to do it. He doesn't Understand what the Aether is, or rather, what it CAN be. In the same way, Thanos would have to activate the Mind and Soul stones to Snap. That would instantly make him aware that he is in a Genjutsu.Thanos certainly isn't going to Snap himself no matter how effective the Genjutsu, And Thanos alone is the only real threat to Itachi due to the massive Speed advantage that Itachi has. Since I have proven that the Stones require more than just Intent to work, the Snap would not be effective in doing what Itachi intended it to do. If that were the Case, Dr. Strange, Mantis, or Wanda could have used an Illusion to make Thanos snap his own army.

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@swordofdamocles said:

@alextheboss said:

Itachi has knowledge

Thanos has IG

Itachi uses genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself and his army away.

This. Thanos team have zero chance.

Gold

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@redshift_bacon: If Tony can trick Thanos so can Itachi, the stones aren't passive.

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he makes them believe they won

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@redshift_bacon: Illusions and a telekinetic mind attack aren’t really the same thing. Wanda has used TP before, but she had to touch their heads to do that iirc, which is not something Thanos would let happen. I don’t remember Dr. Starnge using mind attacks, I just remember him using illusions, but if there is a time he used mind control I would like to see it.

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Genjutsu Thanos to fight for Itachi.

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#32  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@mister_stark: Thats not even close to the same thing lmao. Thanos snapped and nothing happened. He had the intent in his mind he just didn't have the tools and he immediately realized when he snapped that he didn't.

@alextheboss said:

@redshift_bacon: Illusions and a telekinetic mind attack aren’t really the same thing. Wanda has used TP before, but she had to touch their heads to do that iirc, which is not something Thanos would let happen.

K.

"There was no other way"

OT: Thanos Snaps. He doesn't have to look at Itachi or even open his eyes to do it. Even if Thanos did Snap his Army (which is a huge stretch), the Use of the Snap would immediately awaken from the Genjutsu and he would just Snap again.

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#33  Edited By Noone1996

Genjutsu is a powerful thing. Especially when used by Itachi. He can one-shot everyone here with even his weakest mind attacks. Let alone using it to put others against one another. Itachi isn't getting tagged either. Even with low stamina and dying, he can still pull this off even without using the Mangekyo Sharingan.

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@redshift_bacon: Those are all hypothetical, Thanos was hypnotized by the alien girl, so we know he is susceptible to mind attacks. If mind attacks don’t work then Thanos probably wins with the gauntlet.

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@sy8000 said:

Honestly I'm not sure Itachi has the stamina. He'll have to amaterasu Thanos and the Leviathans and there's no way he can do that 13 times.

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#36  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@alextheboss: Don't get me wrong I think that Genjutsu would effect Thanos, I just don't think that Itachi would be able to use Genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself.

He could use it to make Thanos think he is weak, and hit him with Totsuska, but then again he would have time to reverse it using the Time stone, or turn the Totsuska blade into butter with the Reality Stone, or teleport out of the way with the Space stone.

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#38  Edited By dot578

GG

if mantis could brain dead thanos for a few seconds itachi could trap him for easy

plus INAZANAMI

thanos captured within his own mind due to his ego and desires (like kabuto)

itachi takes the ganulet vapes army

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@alextheboss: Don't get me wrong I think that Genjutsu would effect Thanos, I just don't think that Itachi would be able to use Genjutsu to make Thanos snap himself.

He could use it to make Thanos think he is weak, and hit him with Totsuska, but then again he would have time to reverse it using the Time stone, or turn the Totsuska blade into butter with the Reality Stone, or teleport out of the way with the Space stone.

Things Thanos literally never did in any of the movies... Not in character, and lets be honest, Thanos was a moron in terms of utilizing the IG.

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#40  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@limitlesssigil said:

Things Thanos literally never did in any of the movies... Not in character, and lets be honest, Thanos was a moron in terms of utilizing the IG.

He did do that in the movies though...

Reverse time using the Time stone:

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Remaking Reality with the Reality Stone:

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Teleporting & Catching Weapons with the Space Stone:

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Finding the Real Dr. Strange (through Illusions) using the Soul Stone (Notice which 2 stones Light Up in the 1st GIF):

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#41  Edited By LimitlessSigil

@redshift_bacon said:
@limitlesssigil said:

Things Thanos literally never did in any of the movies... Not in character, and lets be honest, Thanos was a moron in terms of utilizing the IG.

He did do that in the movies though...

Reverse time using the Time stone:

Remaking Reality with the Reality Stone:

Teleporting & Catching Weapons with the Space Stone:

Finding the Real Dr. Strange (through Illusions) using the Soul Stone (Notice which 2 stones Light Up in the 1st GIF):

My point specifically was the frequency in which he performed them, there were hundreds of instances where he could have turned an opponent into bubbles or atomized them or Reversed time but the fact remains he only did so a handful of times, and yet you seem to think he's going to instantly turn Totsuka blade into bubbles or Reverse time.

Itachi is much much faster than even Thanos, to the point where Thanos gets blitzed

Itachi is much much more intelligent than even Thanos

Itachi can put Thanos under Genjutsu and Thanos will have no idea he's even under it

Itachi has Sharingan precog which means no one here is ever tagging him with anything, especially Thanos

Itachi has knowledge and is fully capable of decapitating Thanos, (Pretty sure Thanos can't reverse time if he's already dead, feel free to prove me wrong)

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#42  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@limitlesssigil: I understand your arguments and disagree.

Thanos in EG is very different from Thanos in IW.

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Itachi.

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#45  Edited By Adi_Frost

Solo king strikes again.

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Itachi still stomps. He can literally use mind control on Thanos to make him fight his own army while Itachi sits there and watches.

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clears mcu via amaterasu

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Itachi dies

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He should clear, imo.

Consistently faster with hax to boot.