Gear 4th is too much a boost. Luffy's Haki has progressed to the point where it isn't a slaughter, but just looking at the difference between Gear 2nd and Gear 4th Luffy against the initial Cracker soldier should give a scale to how how large of a boost Gear 4th gives. Base Luffy is stronger then he was in all regards, but without access to at least Gear 2nd, Gear 4th still wins decisively.
At some point, Luffy's base will have to be as strong as Gear 4 Luffy from dressrosa (which was commander level.) Right now is the best time for that to make sense. I think Gear 4 at dressrosa has some advantages over current base namely strength but overall, his base stands a chance of at least outlasting gear 4. we wil have to wait and see how the new haki works before we can say he overpowers gear 4 and straight up takes the W.
This could go either way with whom ever wins taking it with high diff
The thing is G4 can't get through base Luffy's damage soak with the time limit on G4 he would need KKG to put base down for good
G4 was getting raggdolled also but base could take more although tbh G4 had ran out and would have taken at least same lvl of beating as base or more
@deathhero61: But Future Sight is a great boost which would make it a bit hard for G4 to land hits consistently. And Luffy's CoA also improved during the Katakuri fight. Add Luffy's own monstrous endurance and it'll take a while to wear him down, while he can certainly harm the Dressrosa G4 due to better CoA.
@shirso: And still needed Snake man to defeat him. Your point?
What has Snakeman got to do here? After mastering Future Sight base Luffy was dodging a barrage of Katakuri's punches with his eyes closed, while previously Katakuri was blitzing G4 Boundman. Which goes to show the difference Future Sight can make to reaction speed, meaning it won't be easy for Dressrosa arc G4 to tag him.
Why he didn't dodge Kaido then?
Because Kaido is too fast for even precognition to help, as we have seen massively superior speed can overwhelm CoO previously in the series.
How does Kaido being too fast for Luffy prove your point lol?
This is not current G4, this is Dressrosa arc G4. And base Luffy after learning Future Sight has shown the ability to easily react to and dodge attacks that even G4 Luffy prior to that could not. Hence current Luffy's reactions are above that of Dressrosa arc G4 at the very least. I don't see what's hard to understand here.
@shirso: Bro STOP! The speed difference is WAY to big, no precog can help him here. He is going to receive the Kaido treatment.
Reaction speed is on Current Luffy's side, plus precog, but overall I do think G4th luffy stomps. Its too much of a difference. Even with the new skillset, his improved CoA isn't enough to actually harm G4 when it gave Doffy trouible.
We haven't seen the potency and how effective it is. For example would you say Lucci's Rokugan would be 100 percent just as effective as it was back then?
Would this version of Lucci be able to inflict the same amount of damage he did to Luffy back then with Rokuougan?
Sure it ignores durability somewhat, but we don't know how it would work out against something like G4 which is not only incredibly defensive and durable, but is covered in CoA to such an extent that it gave Doffy trouble putting him down.
We need more showings for Ryou first.
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