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#1 Posted by Alpha (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

Which Sorcerer is the greater weilder of magic?

Loki:

Magical energy manipulation, superhuman strength, stamina, durability and longevity.

Shape-shifting, extrasensory abilities with high intelligence.

Dr Strange:

Genius level intellect with extended Life-span.

High level magic & cosmic energy wielder able to generate a near infinite amount of effects.

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#2 Posted by Alpha (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

obi wan kenobi! says:

"I'd say Loki...he's a God"

So are Thor, Ares and Hercules and that fact really hasn't stop them from being beaten by mortals.

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#3 Posted by Last_Guardian (32162 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Loki...he's a God

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#4 Posted by buhdlight (89 posts) - - Show Bio

But the difference is your talking what actually happens in comic book (plot driven) vs. what would really happen. I'd like to think Strange could beat him, but in a pure one or the other setting, I don't see how you against Loki. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to concede...

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#5 Posted by Alpha (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

buhdlight says:

"But the difference is your talking what actually happens in comic book (plot driven) vs. what would really happen. I'd like to think Strange could beat him, but in a pure one or the other setting, I don't see how you against Loki. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to concede..."

Well if you go off whats stated in comics, I would say that Dr Strange is more powerful. He has access to levels that Loki doesn't.

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#6 Posted by "Colossus" (4755 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki> sorcerer supreme

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#7 Posted by King Saturn (221022 posts) - - Show Bio
Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki...
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#8 Posted by Norbit (73 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Dr Strange is a greater sorcerer than Loki? he's Sorcerer supreme amongst men, But Loki is one of the most powerful sorcerers in The whole Asgardian realm...
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#9 Posted by Undergroundgod (3069 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki... "


 
 
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#10 Posted by dane (10747 posts) - - Show Bio
@Norbit: Theres only about 3 recognized sorcerers in the Asgardian Realm, being the greatest of them doesn't indicate that much. Doctor Strange was above Morgan Le Fay, Doctor Doom, Mephisto, Dormammu etc.
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#11 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki... "

Agreed
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#12 Posted by Goenitz (2066 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Strange wins easy. "Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki... " Agreed

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#13 Posted by Boneapart (854 posts) - - Show Bio
strange
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#14 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8935 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic strange without even trying.

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#15 Posted by Wesker666 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

strange would take loki and take him to another dimension
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#16 Posted by Dreadpool10 (9224 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki has the ability to generate and control a great quantity of mystical abilities for a variety of purposes, of which can be used to further enhance or augment his physical diagram, like his speed, strength, and stamina, but only temporarily. His magical abilities are equal to Karnilla, the most skilled sorceress of the Nine Realms. [24][25]Being a telekinetic, Loki can influence the movement of objects and people with his mind, and as such, this power proves to Thus be devastating and chaotic in nature. His known abilities include the ability to fire powerful beams of concussive force, generate highly durable force fields, bestow superhuman attributes to living beings or inanimate objects, or teleport himself or others across dimensions. He can also bring inanimate objects to life, or mystically imbue objects or beings with specific but temporary powers. He has, for example, augmented the might of human criminals as the Cobra and Sandu. These magical effects remain only for as long as he maintains the spell that created them. Loki has also once cursed Deadpool with an indestructible Tom Cruise's face, which proved to be powerful enough to withstand being run over by a train and direct contact with a nuclear rod without receiving a single scratch.[26] He has also once used his magic to turn Invisible Woman's psionic shields against herself.[27]Loki’s power has been said by the Silver Surfer during their early encounters as sufficient to “decimate a planet”[28], and according to Dormammu, Loki’s magic nearly rivals that of his own.

Thus is why Loki wins.

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#17 Posted by Veravin (928 posts) - - Show Bio

@dreadpool10:

Doctor Strange has been described as "the mightiest magician in the cosmos",[38] and as "more powerful by far than any of your fellow humanoids" by Eternity, the sentience of the Marvel Universe.[39]

Doctor Strange has held the title of Sorcerer Supreme from 1973, (with the death of the Ancient One[18]), to the present, with only an interruption from 1992[40] to 1995.[41] He relinquished the title once again in 2009,[29] but reclaimed it in 2012 when he proved himself willing to protect the world even without the title.[32]

Strange draws power from the mystical entities known as the Vishanti (Hoggoth, Oshtur, and Agamotto)[citation needed] and the Octessence (Balthakk, Cyttorak, Farallah, Ikonn, Krakkan, Raggadorr, Valtorr, and Watoomb).[citation needed] These entities lend their power to a particular effect, such as the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, which are used by Strange to entrap foes.[42]

Strange can use magic to achieve any effect he desires, such as flight,[citation needed] immortality,[citation needed]energy blasts,[37]teleportation,[43]astral projection,[34]telepathy,[34] the creation of materials such as food[44] and water,[45] creating planet-wide protective shields,[46] restoring himself from bodily destruction,[volume & issue needed] resurrecting the dead,[volume & issue needed] stopping and reversing time,[volume & issue needed] sealing black holes,[volume & issue needed] restoring universes,[38] absorbing enough power to unconsciously destroy galaxies,[volume & issue needed] growing to the size of and merging with universal concepts,[47] and co-operatively channeling the mass of the entire Marvel Universe.[volume & issue needed]

In addition to his magical abilities, Strange is also a skilled neurosurgeon[citation needed] and is trained in several martial arts disciplines.[citation needed]

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#18 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (2084 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki already beat Classic Dr. Strange. Look at covers for Strange Tales, should be in the early to mid 100's.

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#19 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Loki could go rounds with Classic Doctor Strange. (Don't ask me how) Although currently even before the depowerment of Loki, Strange would win.

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#20 Posted by InkerZebra (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@alpha: I reckon it would be Loki on top here. While Dr. Strange has the intellect, Loki's pretty much the God of all that. Plus, his pressing strength is around 30 tons, so physical stats are out here. It's the same with magic, while they're close in magical prowess, I'd say that Dr. Strange's slightly overpowered by Loki.

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#21 Posted by dondave (41506 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Loki could go rounds with Classic Doctor Strange. (Don't ask me how) Although currently even before the depowerment of Loki, Strange would win.

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#23 Edited by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic strange should win. Current wouldn't fair too well.

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#24 Posted by marvelfan123 (582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Strange

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#25 Edited by Homer_X (2387 posts) - - Show Bio

Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki...

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#26 Edited by mjjoaa (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange ar's Loki.

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#27 Posted by mike01 (111 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets put it this way. If any mortal could take Loki it would be Dr strange. He gets his powers from elder gods. So could a small portion of Bor force beat Loki? I would say yea.

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#28 Posted by Alberto_Weskardo (451 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki > Dark Arts Strange (When Strange was in late 20's)
Loki < Master of the Mystic Arts Strange (When Strange Mastered the Book of Vishiani)
Loki <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sorcerer Supreme Strange (After the Ancient One passed away and became one with the Universe)

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#29 Posted by Myst1que (181 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: Asgardian magic from the gods, vs some magic from a few magical entities?

Loki stomps.

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#30 Posted by bigmedlock (437 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki

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#32 Posted by MasterKungFu (20774 posts) - - Show Bio

tending to strange

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#33 Posted by Masker (981 posts) - - Show Bio

Floki

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#34 Posted by lettsplay10 (20302 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange

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#35 Posted by ElderSkaar (5319 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange is more powerful but Loki probably have the greater mind.

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#37 Posted by jagernutt (7540 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange

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#38 Posted by LordOfFate (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I understand Classic Strange has beat bigger and better.

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#39 Posted by Madripoor (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

Doc Strange could access levels of Magic that are beyond Loki...

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#40 Posted by TopTierGoat (372 posts) - - Show Bio

After strange gave up his soul during the incursions.... IDK. Pretty sure current Strange uber stomps Loki

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#41 Posted by Kingant27 (15003 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Strange wins.

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#42 Posted by ElderSkaar (5319 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesupremesorcerer: Lol surgeon? yeah being a doctor isn't much to be that proud of, sure a great job but seriously Loki has 1000's of years of experience and controls armies. That speaks for itself

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#44 Edited by deactivated-57d3e40c6be63 (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki is on another level, not with Magic, but with everything else.

Physically speaking, he is an Asgardian God, so he's faster, stronger, tougher etc.

As far as fighting skills, Loki is surprisingly skilled with melee weapons, so he has that on him.

And for intelligence, that is clearly Loki.

My money is on the God of Mischief.

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#45 Edited by newecho (7180 posts) - - Show Bio

@dane: strange needs massive plot to be above dormy. Even mephisto is a reach.

I really think this battle comes down to semantics. Loki would technically take more than strange to . Defeat him or the avengers could just call him to defeat loki when he shows up.

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#46 Posted by KrleAvenger (20780 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki can take out Current Strange but overall I would say Strange would win.

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#47 Posted by NortonEk (151 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange. When it comes to magic, Stephen is a reference in the Marvel universe. Everything what Loki makes, Strange also makes and even better ... except maybe the transmutation.

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#48 Posted by spideyandslendy (1647 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange wins

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#49 Edited by WastelandMan (7494 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, Strange is just more powerful by feats. I don't see Loki winning.

@lyzlo said:

Loki is on another level, not with Magic, but with everything else.

Physically speaking, he is an Asgardian God, so he's faster, stronger, tougher etc.

As far as fighting skills, Loki is surprisingly skilled with melee weapons, so he has that on him.

And for intelligence, that is clearly Loki.

My money is on the God of Mischief.

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That scan is from the earliest years of Strange's career before he received several artifacts, permanent amps, and became Sorcerer Supreme. All Loki's physicals wont matter when Strange's shields have resisted planetary attacks.

Shields from a planet exploding:

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Shields from a force that can hurl planets from their orbits:

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Shields from two planetoids colliding:

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@krleavenger said:

Loki can take out Current Strange but overall I would say Strange would win.

Current Strange is at the same levels of power as Classic Strange:

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#50 Posted by KrleAvenger (20780 posts) - - Show Bio

@wastelandman: He is? Yeah,even better. Well then the only Strange that Loki could beat is Post-Dark Reign Strange (unless even that one is super powerful).