Dr. Smolder Bravestone (Jumanji) vs MCU Captain America

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R1: H2H (I know Bravestone hits like a semi truck but think of the skill and speed difference.)

R2: The doctor has his boomerang and the captain has his shield.

Fight in the vehicle hangar.

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Cap already broke steel.

Stone<<<<Steel.

The Rock shouldn't be an issue.

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Haven’t watched the movie. What are his feats?

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This movie was surprisingly decentc

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Bravestone has WAY better striking feats than Cap. At least 2 tiers better, but his skill was = 0 ... I mean 0.000 its basically a Nerd in a superhuman body with no training at all.

Also his durability was surprisingly Meh. He died from a fall Cap would have survived.

Cap with his shield wins 10/10. However Bravestone could win some fights, if he lands a lucky hit on a shieldless Cap in round 1.

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Braveheart may not be as skilled, but I honestly don't see Cap just dancing around him, not getting hit at all.

And also, you have to kill him three times to actually 'kill' him, he'll just keep coming back.

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Bravestone has WAY better striking feats than Cap. At least 2 tiers better, but his skill was = 0 ... I mean 0.000 its basically a Nerd in a superhuman body with no training at all.

Also his durability was surprisingly Meh. He died from a fall Cap would have survived.

Cap with his shield wins 10/10. However Bravestone could win some fights, if he lands a lucky hit on a shieldless Cap in round 1.

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@ithemanwithoutfeari: I wouldn't say no skill. He obviously knew how to fight as evident from the bazaar scene.

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@ghostodoofus: Excluding the last one in which he basically launched that one thug like 40-50 meters into the sky with a punch, yes I agree his other feats are comparable.

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@angeljax: Hmmm maybe I missed something, but to me he looked more like a skillless brute

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Cap already broke steel.

Stone<<<<Steel.

The Rock shouldn't be an issue.

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Bravestone annihilates, don't know what people are on about.

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Rock

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@thespartanb345t: i didn't see in any movie that cap has breaked steel with his bare hands and with his shield he was penetrating iron man armor effortlessly

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Rock stomps

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@thespartanb345t: The premise is MCU cap though.

I'm gonna go with bravestone simply because he has 3 lives and his strength is way above caps tier. He launched the guy like 50 feet in the sky and punched a dude through multiple brick walls... So if he manages to land a hit it's (pun intended) game over. Cap obviously has the skill aspect on him but it seems like a one hit KO for bravestone and he has 3 lives to do it. But cap is faster and much more durable so it could go either way. If they know about each other cap would probably take it though

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@ashketchum93: I don't think you understand.

Bravestone is street tier, Cap is FAR more powerful.

Steve doesn't need the Super Soldier Serum to beat Bravestone.

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@ashketchum93: I don't think you understand.

Bravestone is street tier, Cap is FAR more powerful.

Steve doesn't need the Super Soldier Serum to beat Bravestone.

MCU Cap without the Serum would lose to Jack Black's character. With 616 you may have something of an argument though.

OT: Cap wins a solid majority. He's much faster and much more skilled

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@thetruthiii: Cap without the serum could still solo that entire movie. I can post evidence if you want.

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@thetruthiii: Cap without the serum could still solo that entire movie. I can post evidence if you want.

MCU Cap? I think you're trolling at this point, but go ahead

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@thetruthiii:

MCU Captain America

The Almighty Captain America
The Almighty Captain America

Now, for some feats and explanations.

Strength

Captain America is far stronger than any of his enemies, including Arrow and Doomsday.

Feats:

Here you can see that Captain America holds a helicopter in place. However, this is no regular helicopter. It is actually the

Thanoscopter.

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Now, you may be confused as to why the pilot of the helicopter is not Thanos.

You, confused Viner, are wrong. It ISThanos, but in DISGUISE! Still confused? Why, because Thanos can't shape-shift? True. He normally cannot. But, in this instance, he had the INFINITY GAUNTLET, which allowed him to shape-shift.

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The IG is multiversal. Thus, this helicopter was multiversal. Therefore, Captain America has multiversal strength. Some of the feats for the Infinity Gauntlet include killing half of the universe (which Captain America tanked effortlessly) and becoming Eternity.

Vibranium Shield

Captain America's shield is literally indestructible, and is incredibly powerful.

Feats:

Here it blocks a hit from Thor's hammer, which is clearly very powerful.

Here Thor one-shots a full-powered Galactus.
Here Thor one-shots a full-powered Galactus.

And this is pretty consistent for Thor, too.

Again... And Galactus was nearly killed by this strike.
Again... And Galactus was nearly killed by this strike.
One-shots a Celestial, which is universal.
One-shots a Celestial, which is universal.
Galactus survives his universe's destruction
Galactus survives his universe's destruction

So, Captain America's shield is far beyond universal.

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#28  Edited By TheTruthIII

@thespartanb345t: You win, Cap solos Jumanji.

He still gets blitzed and one shotted by DCEU Wonder Woman and CW Arrow though

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@thespartanb345t: You win, Cap solos Jumanji.

He still gets blitzed and one shotted by DCEU Wonder Woman and CW Arrow though

DCEU Doomsday gets pierced by arrows.

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Captain America is the most powerful Avenger. Hawkeye is the weakest Avenger. Hawkeye uses arrows.

Captain America>Hawkeye, so Cap>Arrows.

Captain America blocks bullets, and bullets>arrows.

DCEU Doomsday>DCEU Superman>DCEU Wonder Woman. Cap>Arrow>DCEU Doomsday>DCEU Wonder Woman

CW Arrow uses arrows. His name is Arrow.

So Cap>Arrow.

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Bravestone wins this I'm pretty sure.

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He wins R1, but definitely loses R2.

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@ashketchum93: I don't think you understand.

Bravestone is street tier, Cap is FAR more powerful.

Steve doesn't need the Super Soldier Serum to beat Bravestone.

Ahhhhh yes I forgot. Making things up to support an argument. A cornerstone of these forums.

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@ashketchum93: You could look at the evidence I posted proving that I'm right.

Just scroll up.

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#33  Edited By AshKetchum93

@thespartanb345t: Yes i saw your scans from the comics which have no relevance on MCU cap. His most impressive feat in the MCU is holding a normal helicopter from take off which pales in comparison to bravestone's casual ability to toss dude 50 feet in the air or send guys flying through multiple brick walls.

With cap's skill, he'd likely win in a prepped fight where he knows about Bravestone's capabilities, sure. But no way MCU Cap is "FAR more powerful." He has absolutely 0 feats of that strength magnitude.

You're obviously trolling but i'm just getting concerned at this point that you might actually believe it

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@ashketchum93: Yes i saw your scans from the comics which have no relevance on MCU cap

Except that they are tie-in comics.

His most impressive feat in the MCU is holding a normal helicopter from take off which pales in comparison to bravestone's casual ability to toss dude 50 feet in the air or send guys flying through multiple brick walls.

That was no normal helicopter, as I stated. It is the Thanoscopter, and Thanos had the IG which he used to disguise himself (using the makeup stone) and try to hurt Cap.

With cap's skill, he'd likely win in a prepped fight where he knows about Bravestone's capabilities, sure. But no way MCU Cap is "FAR more powerful." He has absolutely 0 feats of that strength magnitude.

Sure?

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Here we see Cap overpowering Infinity Stones. So Bravestone won't be an issue, since he is infinitely weaker.

You're obviously trolling but i'm just getting concerned at this point that you might actually believe it

Ah, classic. You ran out of an argument so you call me a troll.

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I can see Bravestone winning R1 after Next Level.

R2 depends on if he has boomerang hacks or not.

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Bravestone Round 1, Cap Round 2.

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Is it mcu? if comic cap but brave clears if mcu

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After "next level", Bravestone stomps both rounds

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Bravestone was displaying MCU Thor level striking feats in the sequel, he stomps.

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Bravestone clives round one. Cap wins round two with difficulty.