fight on mars may the best freak of nature wins!!!
Dr. Manhattan VS new 52 captain atom!!!
If we are dealing with actual on-panel feats... then Captain Atom in a colossal curb stomp, because a lot of the hype around Manhattan is about what people say about him, not what he actually does.
Like look at the original watchmen... he changes size, he travels space, he turns sand to glass, he reforms after having been disintegrated, he makes duplicates of himself, he creates air and he blows up some thugs and Vietnamese. All of that is stuff the New 52 Captain Atom also does, along with absorbing huge amounts of energy (a volcano and a nuke) he exists outside of the normal definition of time that he has also travelled, he's been with passengers to the edge of the universe, recreated the dead and regrown other people's limbs.
Now, Doomsday Clock and all that hasn't been published yet, so what Manhattan does there is not really usable as of yet... since DC and Johns might change what he actually does, if its even him. So we have to rely on the original Watchmen story and the later Before Watchmen, which I have to admit I haven't read, so maybe he does something amazing there?
If we are dealing with actual on-panel feats... then Captain Atom in a colossal curb stomp, because a lot of the hype around Manhattan is about what people say about him, not what he actually does.
Like look at the original watchmen... he changes size, he travels space, he turns sand to glass, he reforms after having been disintegrated, he makes duplicates of himself, he creates air and he blows up some thugs and Vietnamese. All of that is stuff the New 52 Captain Atom also does, along with absorbing huge amounts of energy (a volcano and a nuke) he exists outside of the normal definition of time that he has also travelled, he's been with passengers to the edge of the universe, recreated the dead and regrown other people's limbs.
Now, Doomsday Clock and all that hasn't been published yet, so what Manhattan does there is not really usable as of yet... since DC and Johns might change what he actually does, if its even him. So we have to rely on the original Watchmen story and the later Before Watchmen, which I have to admit I haven't read, so maybe he does something amazing there?
Exactly.
@rampagethefirst: it's because of Doomsday Clock, Manhattan literally remade the whole universe
Lol people actually thought Captain Atom would beat Manhattan? He wouldn't even beat Manhattan before New 52 and Rebirth.
I shouldn't be suprised though. Us Watchman fans tried so hard to tell people how powerful this character was but Comicvine was the only debating site that wouldn't listen to us. Even YouTube knew that Manhattan was strong enough to beat Silver Surfer. After the reboot comics came out and they gave us a pretty big hint as to what Dr. Manhattan's standing in the DC Universe was. Comicvine was still the only site that refused to acknowledge him. Hell they didn't even want to acknowledge that characters other than The Comedian and Ozymandias had superhuman feats in The Watchman verse.
@soratoumiga: He should have won back then too. Dr. Manhattan is literally Atom's kryptonite. Manhattan's powerset is literally made to make Captain Atom explode or to just outright turn him into another element.
What the Hell could Atom do to him? Manhattan's whole premise revovles around manipulating matter and atoms. He's literally immortal? How would Atom defeat him? This website dude.
@mee09: Well, back then, Manhattan was just a being of pure energy, and Atom had the ability to manipulate multiple forms of energy, and was excelling at that, so Atom would logically win. Now it's changed and we have on-panel evidence that Manhattan would beat Atom.
@soratoumiga: Lol how does he out manipulate Dr. Manhattan? He already explained why this can't happen multiple times in the seires. It's the dumbest arguments ever that only came from this site. I don't understand. Everyone else already knew.
@mee09: To be fair, that's what makes Atom special, he excells at energy manipulation and he could have probably somehow manipulated him. I read Watchmen, but I can't recall the writer stating that Manhattan can't be manipulated, unless I'm missing something.
@soratoumiga: Ozymandias already tried to do exactly what you are describing and it did not work. Because Manhattan is practically omnipresent and also has learned to perfectly recreate himself. Whatever Atom would fight. Likely wouldn't be the real Manhattan. Manhattan could be on Mars trying to create life. Or sight seeing on The Sun. While Atom is futilely trying to manipulate 10 of clones on Earth that are just as strong as himself. He had clones althroughout his Universe that were trying to create life and they are all aware of what they are all doing at all times.
It's one of the worst arguments ever to say Atom is going to outmanipulate a guy who plays with atoms and matters for a living. He would never win nor would he be able to outmanipulate Manhattan who is literally on a different plane of existence.
@sushmita: He only got amped recently so he only wins based on his current feats.
@mister_surreal: Lol only according to Comicvine. No one else believed this. He was already amped. Although no one expected him to be Multiversal. We knew he was far beyond the likes of Captain Atom
@mee09: You mean delusional fanboys who thought that his street level feats made him omnipotent? The fact that you are calling him multiversal when he is skyfather tier at best with his new feats tells me that you are one of those fanboys. Dr. Manhattan was nowhere near this level before. Unless you can provide you non-existent feats before Doomsday Clock, there is nothing to suggest that he was this powerful.
@mee09: So what are Manhattan’s new feats?
@blackpantherisb: Casually beat most of the Justice League.
@blackpantherisb: Casually beat most of the Justice League.
more like all
at the end of the issue he is just standing there while other gets dusted
@supermanthor: Your boy Superman wasn’t there.
@supermanthor: Your boy Superman wasn’t there.
my boy wasnt going to make any difference either
unless geoff johns decides to do some pis with truth justice american way
@supermanthor: I said “most” because Superman wasn’t there dude. I know that Superman wouldn’t have done anything :|
@supermanthor: I said “most” because Superman wasn’t there dude. I know that Superman wouldn’t have done anything :|
yeah i know :)
@supermanthor: You were messing with me weren’t you ??
@supermanthor: You were messing with me weren’t you ??
yup lol
Dude I remember years ago when everyone kept saying surfer stomps Manhattan
There was just something about Manhattan that oozes power in ways that silver surfer never showed. I kept telling them not to jump into conclusions that Manhattan hasn't been troubled by anything and thus his upper limits hasn't been shown but from how casually he does what he does tells he should be above surfer tier
Now everyone knows he would stomp surfer and any herald level being. Just like I always thought
@mee09: @zane240: You guys need to stop. 95% of the people on comic vine know that Dr. Manhattan was a wankfest who had feats that could be achieved by peeople who weren’t even high tier. He was severely wanked back in the day and only now is getting amped so that he lives up to the hype. We have something called feats that Dr. Manhattan is only now living up to because he needs to be extremely powerful for the sake of the plot. So stop acting like he was the sh*t before he did anything above beating street levellers.
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