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#1 Edited by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

fight on mars may the best freak of nature wins!!!

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#2 Posted by mr-luxcipher (7593 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch.

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#3 Posted by Charan_ (1400 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan.

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#4 Posted by Batvibe12 (5637 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going wait until Doomsday Clock.

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#5 Posted by KanyeCosby (7036 posts) - - Show Bio

Before I would have said Captain Atom, but now this is probably a mismatch.

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#6 Posted by TheDeathstroke (2925 posts) - - Show Bio

Doc M stomps

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#7 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

If we are dealing with actual on-panel feats... then Captain Atom in a colossal curb stomp, because a lot of the hype around Manhattan is about what people say about him, not what he actually does.

Like look at the original watchmen... he changes size, he travels space, he turns sand to glass, he reforms after having been disintegrated, he makes duplicates of himself, he creates air and he blows up some thugs and Vietnamese. All of that is stuff the New 52 Captain Atom also does, along with absorbing huge amounts of energy (a volcano and a nuke) he exists outside of the normal definition of time that he has also travelled, he's been with passengers to the edge of the universe, recreated the dead and regrown other people's limbs.

Now, Doomsday Clock and all that hasn't been published yet, so what Manhattan does there is not really usable as of yet... since DC and Johns might change what he actually does, if its even him. So we have to rely on the original Watchmen story and the later Before Watchmen, which I have to admit I haven't read, so maybe he does something amazing there?

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If we are dealing with actual on-panel feats... then Captain Atom in a colossal curb stomp, because a lot of the hype around Manhattan is about what people say about him, not what he actually does.

Like look at the original watchmen... he changes size, he travels space, he turns sand to glass, he reforms after having been disintegrated, he makes duplicates of himself, he creates air and he blows up some thugs and Vietnamese. All of that is stuff the New 52 Captain Atom also does, along with absorbing huge amounts of energy (a volcano and a nuke) he exists outside of the normal definition of time that he has also travelled, he's been with passengers to the edge of the universe, recreated the dead and regrown other people's limbs.

Now, Doomsday Clock and all that hasn't been published yet, so what Manhattan does there is not really usable as of yet... since DC and Johns might change what he actually does, if its even him. So we have to rely on the original Watchmen story and the later Before Watchmen, which I have to admit I haven't read, so maybe he does something amazing there?

Exactly.

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#9 Posted by CryoModeste (1344 posts) - - Show Bio

CA

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#10 Posted by Tedirey (2627 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently CA

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#11 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7523 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom. What is with the hype surrounding Dr. Manhattan?

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#12 Posted by wwenmdc (46 posts) - - Show Bio

@rampagethefirst: it's because of Doomsday Clock, Manhattan literally remade the whole universe

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#14 Posted by Sushmita (31 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump. Dr M proved many of you wrong.

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#15 Posted by Supermanthor (18626 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr m

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#16 Edited by Mee09 (5705 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol people actually thought Captain Atom would beat Manhattan? He wouldn't even beat Manhattan before New 52 and Rebirth.

I shouldn't be suprised though. Us Watchman fans tried so hard to tell people how powerful this character was but Comicvine was the only debating site that wouldn't listen to us. Even YouTube knew that Manhattan was strong enough to beat Silver Surfer. After the reboot comics came out and they gave us a pretty big hint as to what Dr. Manhattan's standing in the DC Universe was. Comicvine was still the only site that refused to acknowledge him. Hell they didn't even want to acknowledge that characters other than The Comedian and Ozymandias had superhuman feats in The Watchman verse.

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#17 Edited by Soratoumiga (2479 posts) - - Show Bio

Well now Manhattan, obviously.

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#18 Edited by Mee09 (5705 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga: He should have won back then too. Dr. Manhattan is literally Atom's kryptonite. Manhattan's powerset is literally made to make Captain Atom explode or to just outright turn him into another element.

What the Hell could Atom do to him? Manhattan's whole premise revovles around manipulating matter and atoms. He's literally immortal? How would Atom defeat him? This website dude.

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#19 Posted by Soratoumiga (2479 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: Well, back then, Manhattan was just a being of pure energy, and Atom had the ability to manipulate multiple forms of energy, and was excelling at that, so Atom would logically win. Now it's changed and we have on-panel evidence that Manhattan would beat Atom.

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#20 Edited by Mee09 (5705 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga: Lol how does he out manipulate Dr. Manhattan? He already explained why this can't happen multiple times in the seires. It's the dumbest arguments ever that only came from this site. I don't understand. Everyone else already knew.

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#21 Posted by Soratoumiga (2479 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: To be fair, that's what makes Atom special, he excells at energy manipulation and he could have probably somehow manipulated him. I read Watchmen, but I can't recall the writer stating that Manhattan can't be manipulated, unless I'm missing something.

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#22 Edited by Mee09 (5705 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga: Ozymandias already tried to do exactly what you are describing and it did not work. Because Manhattan is practically omnipresent and also has learned to perfectly recreate himself. Whatever Atom would fight. Likely wouldn't be the real Manhattan. Manhattan could be on Mars trying to create life. Or sight seeing on The Sun. While Atom is futilely trying to manipulate 10 of clones on Earth that are just as strong as himself. He had clones althroughout his Universe that were trying to create life and they are all aware of what they are all doing at all times.

It's one of the worst arguments ever to say Atom is going to outmanipulate a guy who plays with atoms and matters for a living. He would never win nor would he be able to outmanipulate Manhattan who is literally on a different plane of existence.

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#23 Posted by Mister_Surreal (10033 posts) - - Show Bio

@sushmita: He only got amped recently so he only wins based on his current feats.

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#24 Posted by Mee09 (5705 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal: Lol only according to Comicvine. No one else believed this. He was already amped. Although no one expected him to be Multiversal. We knew he was far beyond the likes of Captain Atom

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#25 Posted by Yamiyodare (1230 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Manhattan godstomps. Mismatch.

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@mee09: You mean delusional fanboys who thought that his street level feats made him omnipotent? The fact that you are calling him multiversal when he is skyfather tier at best with his new feats tells me that you are one of those fanboys. Dr. Manhattan was nowhere near this level before. Unless you can provide you non-existent feats before Doomsday Clock, there is nothing to suggest that he was this powerful.

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#27 Posted by blackpantherisb (7096 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: So what are Manhattan’s new feats?

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#29 Posted by Supermanthor (18626 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpantherisb: Casually beat most of the Justice League.

more like all

at the end of the issue he is just standing there while other gets dusted

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#31 Posted by Supermanthor (18626 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Your boy Superman wasn’t there.

my boy wasnt going to make any difference either

unless geoff johns decides to do some pis with truth justice american way

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#32 Posted by Mister_Surreal (10033 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: I said “most” because Superman wasn’t there dude. I know that Superman wouldn’t have done anything :|

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#33 Posted by Supermanthor (18626 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: I said “most” because Superman wasn’t there dude. I know that Superman wouldn’t have done anything :|

yeah i know :)

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#36 Posted by Zane240 (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09:

Dude I remember years ago when everyone kept saying surfer stomps Manhattan

There was just something about Manhattan that oozes power in ways that silver surfer never showed. I kept telling them not to jump into conclusions that Manhattan hasn't been troubled by anything and thus his upper limits hasn't been shown but from how casually he does what he does tells he should be above surfer tier

Now everyone knows he would stomp surfer and any herald level being. Just like I always thought

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#37 Posted by Zane240 (514 posts) - - Show Bio

Get it into your skulls that Manhattan is far above herald tier. Heck even Thanos tier

Infact if the hype is real then even above odin tier

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#38 Edited by Mister_Surreal (10033 posts) - - Show Bio

@mee09: @zane240: You guys need to stop. 95% of the people on comic vine know that Dr. Manhattan was a wankfest who had feats that could be achieved by peeople who weren’t even high tier. He was severely wanked back in the day and only now is getting amped so that he lives up to the hype. We have something called feats that Dr. Manhattan is only now living up to because he needs to be extremely powerful for the sake of the plot. So stop acting like he was the sh*t before he did anything above beating street levellers.

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