Knull has the Necrosword.
Fight takes place on Earth.
I'm stealing these callouts btw.
arf, stealing my callout list
but meh, Knull's Necrosword is impressive but he needs to physically hit someone with it, so if Dormammu can place himself outside of the sword's reach, he should be fine realistically.
I could be a big boob and say that "Dormammu gets auto BFR'd because he isn't allowed to emerge on Earth physically" but that's a bit of a cop out.
@andromeda101: ok my apologies I did remember that happening that he was grouped with them at one point. I got the celestial ranking from an old comic I'm having trouble remembering which one it was i think it may have been when thanos had the gauntlet. The other thing you mentioned I honestly didnt know but what do you think dormammus best feat? is mine personally is his fight with eternity which should put him on a celestials level so I still stick with knull for now I see the major problem with knull is that he is fairly fairly new so he doesnt have many feats an the ones he has are not to shabby if I say so myself.
I think from a layman's perspective, i would say Knull. That is just scaling his decap of a celestial (making one of the early dimensions) that should have been greater than Dormammu. Also what Gorr did, but I could be persuaded Dormammu could pull some tricks to punch out of his weight class. Knull mostly has statements currently (though they are pretty good).
@professorrespect: Future Thanos right? IDK, could have just meant unkillable by means that he had. Probably didnt mean I power even above him couldn't do it. Being older than any dimension but the firmament and tanking blasts from multiple celestials I think are his best feats along with one shotting another. I think he should scale higher than Dormammu but who knows how he fights and if he has weaknesses that Dormy could exploit. Does he need to do damage physically? I assume Knull is greater, but would like to see him fleshed out more.
Knull. I wank the decapitation feat. We know for a fact that what we see when celestials fight isn't even remotely near the actual combat. They fight on many planes of reality and dimensions according to classic beyonder, so we know Knull can as well. Dormammu shouldn't be able to evade that. Dude lacks speed feats.
Knull could win this with a punch alone. He was able to tear the Sentry in two although the guy previously wasn’t successfully put to death by Molecule Man, the Stones of the Norn, and Morgana Le Fey, and also beat The Void, the personification of evil, the dark side of Galactus, and God’s Angel of Death into submission just by being in physical contact with him.
Dormammu is consistently portrayed as being Doctor Strange’s equal if not lower than him. He has no way of defeating a real elder god who is physically already as strong as Superboy Prime, equipped with a vast arsenal or deadly, infallible haxes, who is also extremely fast.
@abbottforpres: Dormammu is consistently portrayed as being Doctor Strange’s equal if not lower than him. He has no way of defeating a real elder god who is physically already as strong as Superboy Prime, equipped with a vast arsenal or deadly, infallible haxes, who is also extremely fast.
Easy down, friend. That's not true, at all. Dormammu has almost always been portrayed to be Strange's superior, either by showings or by guidebooks. I can recall only a single time when Strange was close to him, and that was more than a decade ago.
Dormammu has outright one-shoted Strange in the past, given mystical powers to normal humans like Lucious Dilby to defeat him, fought against Strange while severely weakened, and Strange openly said that Dormammu is too powerful. Heck, Strange himself also admitted that Dormammu fights in a level of reality nearly incomprehensible to him and that no one could challenge the Dread One once at full power(Which should include Strange himself). Now Baron Mordo is actually someone who has been portrayed as Strange's equal(Again, by showings and guidebooks), if not lower. And guess what? Dormammu has stomped the shit out of him many times, even barely feeling his spells.
As for the battle, I do think it's close, Dormammu does have similar showings: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/respect-the-dread-dormammu-lord-of-the-dark-dimens-2267819/
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